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Why aren't I feeling excited at being childfree when I've never wanted children?

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indecisionruiningmylife · 06/11/2023 17:11

Namechanged for this post and apologies as it is long, just wanting to try and get some thoughts down and wondering if anyone can relate...

TL:DR - indecision is making me panic and feeling guilty I (still) don't want kids.

I'm almost 40 and have never wanted children. I remember saying I never wanted kids when I was at school and that never really changed. I have a wonderful DH who has always known how I feel and never put pressure on me to change my mind (same goes for my family). No kids on my side of the family, a couple on DH's side who we rarely see due to distance. Majority of friends have kids but don't live close by anymore so we're never really around children.

The problem is, I've never been 100% sure about it, mainly for the following reasons: we both have good jobs, a nice house, my DH would be a brilliant dad, and essentially we can afford children (sorry not trying to sound goady, just pointing out that we are in as good a position as any to have a child). We've lived in multiple different countries/places over the years and had a great life but we bought our first house last year and its the first time that having a child wouldn't have a negative impact on our lives (in the sense that we wouldn't have liked one while we were living abroad as we were having too much fun etc.).

I'd always said over the years, once we 'settle down' if I change my mind I'm open to it but only if I actively wanted one. My DH would like a child but its not a dealbreaker for him and he has always said he'd rather be with me with no kids than leave me and have them. But this is the main problem (which I've talked to him about) - I wish he felt the same as me. I feel so horrendously guilty that I'm stopping him from experiencing being a dad. He says that he's always known how I feel and that if it was that important to him he would have left years ago etc. but it doesn't make me feel any better; I know the guilt is my issue and I need to find peace with it but I don't know how.

Almost all my friends have kids and they have all said (off their own backs, not me questioning them) that you should only have a child if you really really want one. I've read it often enough on here to know that its true and my DH actually verbalised it quite well for me. I can only think of the negatives when I think of having kids - I don't want to deal with nappies, tantrums, homework, bullying, social media safety navigation, moody teens, the possibility of illness/disabilities limiting their/my life... he said that having kids probably isn't a rational decision but an emotional one and that if you don't fundamentally want/yearn for children then you probably shouldn't have one. He also said there's nothing wrong with not wanting kids and that societal pressure doesn't help women who feel like me... so he's saying all the right things but I know deep down that he'd love it if we had a child and I hate myself for denying him that and not wanting that too. I suppose I've always felt like when we have a house and settle down I'd change my mind and want kids but it just hasn't happened yet and time is definitely running out.

So, the emotional wanting hasn't yet appeared for me... however, as I'm still so undecided I'm scared that if it ever does come, it will be too late. And scared that if I have a child I don't want I would regret it. DH and I recently had a conversation about it all and he said 'I think that ship has sailed' but instead of feeling relief that it's now pretty much decided we aren't having kids, I have felt worse and worse since that conversation. Given my age too I'm acutely aware that it's probably now or never.

It's like all of a sudden all the reasons I didn't want kids don't really matter anymore but I'm wondering if that's just because I'm approaching 40 and maybe my hormones are making me feel differently. I just feel like I'm spiralling a bit and I don't know how to a) make a decision either way or b) make peace with whichever decision I make (I say 'I' as I don't think my DH will voluntarily say 'hey you know what, it's not worth it, I don't think we should have kids' even though that's the reassurance I want). I just feel quite down and depressed at the thought of this now being my life and always questioning whether we have done the right thing.

Sorry for the long and rambling post, if anyone has any words of wisdom I'd love to hear how you make peace with a decision that isn't necessarily what your OH wants or how you know when it's definitely not going to happen (by choice).

Thank you x

OP posts:
Saffrom · 12/11/2023 13:58

Truth is OP, if you’re nearly 40 it’s probably already too late for you to conceive naturally and carry a healthy baby to term. Your DH is right, that ship has sailed.

stayflufft · 12/11/2023 14:10

Blimey. What I meant was instead of further consideration about it and the time invested in doing that, maybe the OP should give it a go and try to conceive? It was absolutely no comment on whether or not she could physically have a child or not. I’m sorry to have touched a nerve with some of you. It wasn’t a post about infertility. It was a post about choice.

Sauerkrautsandwich · 12/11/2023 14:15

stayflufft · 12/11/2023 14:10

Blimey. What I meant was instead of further consideration about it and the time invested in doing that, maybe the OP should give it a go and try to conceive? It was absolutely no comment on whether or not she could physically have a child or not. I’m sorry to have touched a nerve with some of you. It wasn’t a post about infertility. It was a post about choice.

Again.
"just ttc" is not a good advice to someone unsure...

"Don't think and just ttc" is a terrible advoce even to people who are not unsure

TheYearOfSmallThings · 12/11/2023 14:17

The world is full of unpleasant and downright nasty people and they are all somebody’s children. One wonders what joy they give their parents.

Off topic, but I often wonder about this. When I am dealing with some aggressive or self obsessed or deeply unlikeable person, I picture them as a baby and young child and I wonder how their parents bear what they have turned into.

I know that in many cases they just go into denial, and of course the expression "he's a bit of a bad lad, a cheeky chappy" covers a wealth of repellent traits.

stayflufft · 12/11/2023 14:17

Sauerkrautsandwich · 12/11/2023 14:15

Again.
"just ttc" is not a good advice to someone unsure...

"Don't think and just ttc" is a terrible advoce even to people who are not unsure

Interested as to what your advice would be.

Sauerkrautsandwich · 12/11/2023 14:32

stayflufft · 12/11/2023 14:17

Interested as to what your advice would be.

I know you mean OP but I have one for you.
Read the thread before commenting

Op has already commented, plenty of us advised thinking some more about it and that the guilt is not something she needs to have (as her dh said he is ok). Having kids for someone else, rather than actively wanting thrm is recipe for disaster. Common sense there.

My advice to anyone would never be "stop thinking, start unprotected sex". Explains a lot though seeing people think that's a valid advice and action

EmpressaurusOfCats · 12/11/2023 14:35

For a start, the OP posted on the board for MNers who don’t have kids, whether by choice or circumstance, so doesn’t that suggest to you that she wasn’t looking from advice from parents?

You’ll probably not have noticed that since the thread was in Active. But it seems to me that to tell someone in the OP’s position to ‘just’ have a baby, to take a massive & irreversible step because it’s something that made you very happy, is incredibly irresponsible behaviour. What if she did it and realised she’d made a huge mistake?

You might say that ‘nobody ever regrets having a baby’ but that’s not true.

Cadburysucks · 12/11/2023 14:49

At your age it might be difficult to conceive anyway. Also possibility of having disabled child. They are little for a very short time. But if you get a good one then it’s a blessing. It’s the not knowing, a gamble.

EmpressaurusOfCats · 12/11/2023 17:11

What constitutes a ‘good one’?

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 12/11/2023 18:44

stayflufft · 12/11/2023 14:10

Blimey. What I meant was instead of further consideration about it and the time invested in doing that, maybe the OP should give it a go and try to conceive? It was absolutely no comment on whether or not she could physically have a child or not. I’m sorry to have touched a nerve with some of you. It wasn’t a post about infertility. It was a post about choice.

This is irresponsible advice.

Having a child is an irreversible act. It's not like buying a dress that you can return if it doesn't suit you.

I would argue the opposite advice: if you're not sure, then don't have a child. If you later regret not having children, the only person you've hurt is you. If you have children and regret them, you've hurt your children too.

EmpressaurusOfCats · 13/11/2023 08:42

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 12/11/2023 18:44

This is irresponsible advice.

Having a child is an irreversible act. It's not like buying a dress that you can return if it doesn't suit you.

I would argue the opposite advice: if you're not sure, then don't have a child. If you later regret not having children, the only person you've hurt is you. If you have children and regret them, you've hurt your children too.

And this is surely basic common sense.

CandyLeBonBon · 13/11/2023 09:04

EmpressaurusOfCats · 12/11/2023 17:11

What constitutes a ‘good one’?

Quite!

mrlistersgelfbride · 10/12/2023 11:20

It can be a hard decision OP.
Please don't 'just have a baby'- terrible advice.
It likely comes from people who have lots of grandparent support and 'easy' kids who sleep well.

Having and raising a child is extremely difficult.
I don't regret having mine, but 4 years ago I would have said I did. I love her to bits but it's changed everything about my life; body, relationship, career , friendships.
You have to really want one.
There's no giving them back. If you are ill, depressed , knackered, sick, you have to get up and carry on, there are no days off.

It sounds like you and DH have reached a decision but it's understandable you are having a wobble. He sounds very supportive.
It seems like it's time for the next stage in life. How do you want to fill it? Travel, hobbies, pets?
You can have a fantastic life without children.
You can also be involved in the life of children without having your own biological child.
Teacher, mentor, help out at a youth club, see DHs family members kids more?
Good luck for the future 🐩

mrlistersgelfbride · 10/12/2023 11:21

Obviously that was meant to be 💐
😆

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