So ive calmed down now tell me what you would do..............

[mummypoppins]

I have a Nanny/ housekeeper..there are a number of previous threads on this.

She works 7 to 11 and 3 to 7 in term time and 8 to 7 in the holidays. She also covers when children are ill.

She is paid Full time wages ( 295 net.........we are very rural area ), lives in ( sep annexe with all ameneities ) and has our 3rd car full time for no cost.

Both children are at school ( 8 and 7 ).

One of her jobs is to empty the dishwasher in the morning before she does the school run whilst children are having breakfast.I put it on late a night and any cups from bedtime and my early morning pot of tea are left on the top for it to be reloaded afterwards.

Last night I came home at 8.30pm after yet another mammoth day in the office to the following note in the house diary.

' Re the dishwasher. I am happy to deal with this in the morning but sometimes I feel more like your maid than Nanny. I am trying to teach the children to tidy up after themselves but find it difficult when you and DH do not. If you have drinks please rinse out the cups and empty the teapot. I was bought in a household where it was considered common courtesy and good mannersto tidy up after onself '

That was it.

Your comments ladies please........!!

paros - easier to clean george when he is hot and steaming!!

Mummypoppins - maybe you should ask her what exactly she is teaching your dc? She says she is teaching them to tidy up after themselves, fine and she wants you to show a good example. You should ask her what she is saying to your dc; After all I wouldn;t want her standing over the dc while they have to scrape their plates and load the d/w etc.

sparkly babe - my charge will put dirty plate in dishwasher (if open)if not put by the kettle to be loaded in - will also put the cake wrapper/fruit peel in bin - I dont stand over them&demand it

I dont think it hurts to get the children to start to tidy up at a young age - we all expect them to tidy up toys etc

Think the OP (MP) is more pissed off with the rudeness and tone of the note, and the fact she OBJECTS to doing what her contract CLEARLY states

I just wondered if she demands that the dc scrape and rinse their plates/cups/etc as well? It's all very well teaching them to be tidy but not if they are doing an adults job. depends onthe age of the dc i suppose, but my boys only leave their plates by the d/w, they don't scrape or rinse and I wouldn't expect them to.

Oh I do turn the George on I just hate cleaning the bloomin thing . Give me the dishwasher any day .

I feel like I have entered a parallel universe...

nannyloadingdishwasherlostblazerseparateannexe

i am agog at the sumptuousness of your life op and amazed that you can get riled like this.

wouldn't hurt to rinse the cups

oh, and chortling at idea that scraping plates is an adult's job! yes, let's not make the little darlings do anything too taxing...

My charge is 2.5 and she is knows to throw her rubbish in the bin+I'm trying to teach her not to shove her plate across the table when she's finished as I think its rude. I've told her to tell me she's finished, put the spoon/fork down+I will come+clear her plate away. It seems to be working thou.
You're never too young to be tidy! She's a pretty intelligent little thing thou, I had her potty trained(completely dry+washing hands after) in 4 days so I could prob teach her quantum physics+she'd be ok lol.

right. we have have threads on this before. she is useless. GET RID!

don't engage with her note. it's just not about that. it's about her not doing the job she was hired to do. leaving shitty little self serving notes to explain why she simply won't do what she was hired to do is further evidence of her unsuitability for the role. do not engage with the arguments in her note.

listen sweetie, how would you deal with this if it were a situation at your workplace? would you really let this crap go on and on?

sorry for vehemence. am on your behalf.

Oh+more importantly, your nanny/HK is having a laugh. Regards of whether her little note is the tip of the iceberg or if she's just a petty cow who doesn't seem aware of her job description, the tone of the note was down right rude in the way it insultes your families manners!!

As a nanny/HK myself (with a seperate flat, but I work 55+ hours a week) I would not have a prob washing out some bloody cups! I was my families smalls FFS.... A few cups wouldn't phase me.

I don't do the ironing thou.

Leave her a note saying "I was brought up to do what my contract states and not leave outrageously rude notes to my superiors, so perhaps we should come to a parting of ways, as you no longer ascribe to this ethos?"

Gosh girls I am humbled you have continued to post and I have been bombed all day.

Harpomax.........yes I am very lucky BUT just because my life is sumptous ( for which I should hasten to add I have and continue to work my arse off for.........how many of you when announcing you were 3 months pregnant had the MD say..'wish you'd kept your legs together abit longer' ) why should I employ a nanny/hk and pay her good money for her not to do the job and slag me off in the process ?

My children actually have their feet firmly on the ground.Have never had a brand new bike bought for them........in some cases 3rd hand and DH and I came from nothing.My father was illiterate and died an alcoholic bankrupt...he left me a shotgun....!

The point is I pay someone to make my life easier. Its not a min wage / exploiting immigrant workers job. Its a good salary for a decent days work and my big problem is that we seem to have lost in this country a lack of respect for hrad work and decent manners.

Tell me I am wrong ?

PS ..........update on nanny tomorrow !

Mummypoppins I happen to know of a lovely, fantastic nanny who is about to become available but would wait for the 'right' family. CAT me if you're intersted

oh yes - if you are interested in my sister my email address is tobys_mummy at btinternet dot com

she's not been a nanny before but has a degree in early childhood studies and has a lot of experience of working in a nursery and also with primary school children. she is a supply teacher atm cos of lack of permanent posts but work is not as regular as she would like.

harpomarx - yes MP could rinse her cups out and sure she would if putting them in the dishwasher but as on side as dishwasher is full,it makes sense to just leave them, rather than stain the sink, which then hk would have to clean later

MP - yes you do pay to make your life easier, and why shouldnt you you work hard to afford - dare i say it staff

the family i work for work bloody hard, pay me well and appricate me - we have a cleaner/ironing lady/gardener and of course a wonderful nanny me

what a nice MD - NOT - i possibly would have said, be nice if you kept your mouth shut, if had that said to me

wait for update

I would be tempted to leave her a note saying you are trying to teach your DCs to respect the environment by not wasting water.
But (I can't remember who said it) is right, it's getting too much into the detail.
You pay her to do a job of which she does the bare minimum (from your posts) and grudgingly.
Time for a review! OK she's just had one but surely you reserve the right to call one when you think necessary? (as does she)
but ffs who rinses dishes before they go in dw? (apart from porridge, which has superglue properties)

Athene anxiously awaits update... (tap tap tap)

So, when is the meet-up? You can come to one in London if you don't fancy a bunch of weirdos you met on the internet invading your home.

So, MP what's the news?

heh hem....

Hi guys ..........sorry just popped in to say hello but drowning at work.

DH thinks I should let it go but think I will sit down with her as there a couple of other things that I need to discuss like limiting her spending in the holidays and the fact that I asked her to have a sort out of the playroom toys with the kids and supervise my 7 year old doing his thankyou letters which never got done.She has a habit of agreeing and then just not doing it because it doesnt suit her.

I will have to do this next week now as she is at college all weekend so keep you in suspenders for a few days I am afraid..

I come to London a lot on business so would love to me up but you are always welcome at our pad....CAT me if anyone is passing....We are just where the M5 meets the M50.

Happy weekend all

MP

ohhhh.... you live near the Severn (sort of). Have you ever seen the bore? I never have and really want to. Although it's not very impressive this year.

Very cool... (but then I'm a bit of a geek sometimes)

we will eagerly await the next stallment MP - have a nice weekend and where the hell is the m5 m50 - i know m25