How much to pay if not childminder/not Ofsted registered

[purpleme12]

Hope much would you pay someone to have your child after school, say for 2 hours.
If they're not a childminder (so presumably don't have those qualifications) and aren't Ofsted registered?
But they didn't want to do it for free (fair enough)
In Yorkshire

Are they looking after the child in your home or theirs?

Theirs

Who is it? A friend? Or family? Or a stranger??

Well a stranger at minute. DBS checked. Obviously I would get to know them. But I just wondered what people thought was a reasonable amount.
If this went ahead

They can't. Only a registered childminder can take pay for looking after your child in their own home. If you want to pay someone to look after your child who is not a registered childminder or nursery, they must do it in your home, and if it's a regular arrangement they are legally an employee and you need to register as an employer.

Pay would depend on whether they have childcare qualifications/experience or not. Not, I'd pay minimum wage. Qualifications, £10-12ph. But I reiterate, if this is a steady arrangement this person is an employed nanny.

I don't think they can do it legally.

Okay so if it's a stranger the lowest I've seen "childminders" for in my area is £4 an hour, if they're feeding them I'd pay a bit more

This is not true, there are some exceptions apparently - www.gov.uk/guidance/childminders-and-childcare-providers-register-with-ofsted/registration-exemptions

I wouldn’t want someone not registered looking after my child though personally.

I could be wrong but I believe it's illegal to work as a unregistered childcare provider. There's also no insurance and you can claim any childcare benefits. With a registered childminder you can claim 20% of fees .

I don’t think they can look after in their home legally. They have to be a registered childminder. They could look after a your child at your place. I’d expect to pay anywhere between 10-15 an hour. I used to pay a woman to look after my kids after school. I paid her £10 an hour and she brought her own child which was fine.

Perfectly legal if under 2hrs per child.

Pay-wise, my starting point would probably be £4-5/hr if multiple children (including their own), £10ish (to be around min wage) if only my child. More if they were providing a meal.

My child is over 8 so I believe from link above that no one would have to be registered

If they are only having yr children then probably around£12 a hour. If they have others it's per child so around4-6 pounds.

I would use an unregistered stranger but if waa unregistered friend I think 15 per hour

You’re happy to leave your child with an unregistered childminder you don’t know?

This is interesting reading. I had it in my head that it would be less pay than a childminder would charge (because not Ofsted registered and not an actual childminder etc) but from here some people are suggesting £10-12

Not really but I'm desperate.
It probably won't happen anyway

No idea what to say about the safety aspects or risks.

When we have babysitters, they are former staff from DC's nursery, L3 qualified and DBS checked. They sometimes have to put DC to bed, or sometimes that's already done. Minding a 2 yo and a 4yo. They charge £13 per hour.

This is what I am reading too @purpleme12 I am a registered childminder and charge £4.20 per hour....I might give up my registration if people are happy to pay unregistered childcare £10-£12 per hour!! What's the point of all the hoops we jump through, qualifications and safeguarding we do if people are willing to pay someone without any of those things so much more....no wonder registered childminders are leaving in droves this thread shows just how undervalued and misunderstood as a profession we are

Childminders are underpaid, but that doesn’t mean that a babysitter (which is what this basically is) deserves to work for less than minimum wage.

The person has suggested minimum wage.
But that is more that what a childminder charges (who is full/can't take on)
And like someone said above,I wouldn't be paying for the qualifications etc etc.
Also I would get no help from tax credits as they're not registered. And yet I'm paying out more money.

That's the rate I suggested for an experiencrd childcare professional working as a nanny. And by all means, consider moving into nannying if you think you'd make more money that way. I pay my experienced nanny £15ph.

I would expect to pay someone doing a job for me an hourly rate of at least minimum wage, because duh. A childminder is a different situation because they are running their own business and should be setting their own hourly cost.

God can't believe I'm in this situation

£10 an hour.

But, at over 8, pending logistics, I'd give them a key and let them come home alone.

@2anddone But surely you're not comparing like for like because the OP sounds like she'll be paying for 1:1 care whereas you presumably look after more than one child for that rate?