How much to pay if not childminder/not Ofsted registered

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Hope much would you pay someone to have your child after school, say for 2 hours.
If they're not a childminder (so presumably don't have those qualifications) and aren't Ofsted registered?
But they didn't want to do it for free (fair enough)
In Yorkshire

These are way off the prices for a cm round here. It’s not a nanny situation. A cm can care for a number of dc so doesn’t get minimum wage per dc.

op, look on your local cm list - council usually has one and some will include price. That’s the best starting point.

I just don't think she's ready for this at all.
She's 9.
She's not an 'old' 9.

Never mind the fact that I'm sure next door would seize on that as a reason to ring SS 🤣

What situation? What’s happened that you need to consider this? Can’t you find a registered childminder? Or look at eg koru kids

leaving your child at an unregistered strangers house can’t be worth it

Exactly this. I have rang them all. There is nothing available. Too full.

Why are you so desperate to pay a stranger with no qualifications and no DBD check to look after your child

I have mentioned that they are DBS checked.

I'm not desperate for this to happen.
I'm desperate for childcare so I can work

I wouldn't leave my child with a stranger that was a non childminder

A DBS check just means they haven’t committed a crime up to the day it was done or haven’t been caught. The point of OFSTED is there is ongoing monitoring and public publishing of any issues etc.

I appreciate your desperate but would you just hand over your child to someone on the street to look after? Where have you even found this person?

*you’re

On our Facebook page for our estate. They have children. It's not a massive estate

A childminder would be self employed and sets their own rates of pay, hours of work, terms of contract etc. No minimum wage as they are self employed. From what you are describing, you would be employing this person, as it would only be your children they are looking after and you are saying when they are working and you, as the employer set the terms of the contract . You would be on even more dodgy ground if you don’t pay minimum wage. Also, you need to look in to holiday pay, as they would be entitled to that and I’m not sure about employers national insurance, employers liability insurance, pension contributions, maternity/sick pay.

i guess you could do it on a cash in hand basis, but you would be leaving yourself wide open if your relationship soured for whatever reason.

Oh right really? I don't understand i can't see how this is illegal if both people want it?

You have to pay minimum wage. Its the minimum

Er, because it's not OK to exploit desperate people by paying them below a legal minimum.

Stops slave labour

All these people saying they would never leave their child with someone unregistered, have you never used a babysitter? Or never babysat for someone when you were a teenager? There isn't much difference. When I was 15 I had a job where I would meet two primary age children from school and sit in their house with them until about 6.00. People on here often recommend such an arrangement ("find a local teenager!")

You are going to hand over your child to someone you found on Facebook??!! I just have no words.

Is there an after school club? I am asking the obvious question I know, but even if there isnt one at your child's school, there might be one at another local school that picks up?

I find it hard to believe there aren't other people out there with informal arrangements like this

No not at her school. Not at the school next to it.
The wraparound who does pick her up is closing.
I even suggested to school opening one or outsourcing but it was a straightaway no av few hours and my email as apparently not a lot of demand (I don't know why, I can't be the only one needing it)

A lot of people on here are, in fact, deathly opposed to getting a babysitter, and most people wouldn't get someone they don't know personally to babysit unless they were registered and experienced. I don't have issues with getting a babysitter, but you absolutely do have to pay a babysitter the minimum wage for their age per hour.

I would be fine with the teenager next door babysitting if she wanted to. We’ve known her and her family for over 5 years, have spare keys to each other’s houses for feeding pets/watering plants. I wouldn’t be fine with a random woman off Facebook even if they lived a few roads away.

That's fine. Obviously I'd get to know her so she wouldn't be a random woman

Does your DC not have a friend they could go home with and then you pick them up from there? You could offer to return the favour a few nights a week

Which level DBS check are they doing? It's only possible to get an enhanced one through an appropriate body and a basic DBS check isn't suitable for working with children and young people.

If you're really struggling then I would suggest going through an agency for an appropriately DBS-ed, first aid trained and experienced person and having a proper arrangement.

Informal childcare with a stranger from Facebook is asking for problems.