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Really upset at the natural child birth brigade...

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Huncamuncaa · 11/08/2019 22:42

Sorry everyone.... need to vent...

I had a baby almost 5 years ago. I did the NCT course and armed myself with all the facts. I took in everything they said. I wanted a calm, natural birth.

It didn't work out that way. My baby was delivered by ventouse. I had severe bruising and scaring which took months to heal. Walking was painful for weeks. After the birth, the bruising prevented me from sitting down for days.

I was told that the heart rate had dropped due to the cord being round the baby's neck, hence the way he was delivered that way. I had been a bit out of it at the time on painkillers. I have never talked about the birth much and nor has my husband. It was traumatic but we survived it.

The NCT reunion came round and it turned out that all of us had had to have some sort of intervention at birth, except for the girl who had wanted a home birth. Her baby sailed into this world. It was blissful. The NCT leader looked quite smug. Her message that 'if you want a natural birth and remain calm, it will happen,' was ringing true. I told her about my birth and how I had had to have the baby born quickly because they cord was causing his heart rate to drop. She told me this was most unlikely, many babies are born this way (I know that this is true). She said it was more likely that my birth had been 'over medicalised'. Apparently when you give birth in hospital, doctors frequently don't give first time mums the time they need to give birth. She suggested that I had been very anxious and this has reduced my ability to push. The woman basically changed my understanding of my own birth. For the last 4 and a bit years I have believed that if I had breathed deeper, been more in tune with my body or had dimmer lights I would have not had six months of physical discomfort due to scarring from my episiotomy. My birth would have felt joyful not traumatic.

So I am pregnant again. Did a different (but similar) antenatal course, desperate for that joyful birth. Told the group about my first birth. Was told again, it was unlikely to have been an actual emergency. This time the meditation will get me through. Childbirth will be a dream.

Today I finally spoke to my mum (a doctor) who had been in the delivery suite at my first birth. She filled me in. She was really shocked that my understanding was that my birth had been 'unnecessarily medicalised'. She told me that my baby's heart rate dropped critically low and that, yes, I was in that very small minority of cases where the cord is wrapped in such a way that it affects the heart rate and could have caused a still birth. I knew that my son had been taken off me but didn't actually realise he was being resuscitated while I was stitched up. My mum had been very concerned. My bruising was caused by him being born with both his hands next to his head. (There isn't anything they could have done to prevent this position, not even a home birth amongst scented candles). I was unlucky with the episiotomy scarring, but the quick delivery saved the life of my baby.

My natural birth prevented my child from being still born. How was I so easily brain washed and made to feel inadequate by these people, even after almost five years?! I do believe that being calm, meditation and the rest of it helps but how can someone, who wasn't there and hasn't seen my notes feel like it's OK to educate me on what happened and why it all went wrong?!

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pennypineapple · 16/08/2019 15:31

@Bertrandrussell I was that terrified first time mum! I read every horror story on MN and was convinced everything would go wrong.

In a way it wasn't a bad thing because I did have some complications and I wasn't that fazed by them because I was expecting even worse.

I am surprised though when I read posts from people saying that first time mums don't hear about the less positive birth stories. I definitely felt pretty clued by on Everything That Can Possibly Go Wrong.

Actually I'm pregnant with my second now and feeling the same!!

SJP3 · 22/08/2019 09:57

Really feel for you. It is so easy to be swept along by all the NCT/hypnobirthing mantras and although I really think they have a place, the idea that medical intervention is somehow the enemy and that the medical staff are doing anything other than trying to get a healthy outcome for mother and baby is just insane. Clearly they intervened with you and your little one because it was medically indicated - not for fun. I think you just had a bit of rubbish luck with your first birth. If you can, try to remember that you grew and delivered a healthy baby and trust that you will again. The doctors and midwives are there to support you. Thank heavens for them! The NCT leader was misguided to suggest you could have had a better experience by going against medical advice.

I'm medical and I still thought I'd 'breathe my baby out' with hypnobirthing techniques and a bit of paracetamol with DS1. It wasn't like that at all but a healthy baby makes it all worth it. I'm 36 weeks now and trying to just accept that this birth will be what it will be...

Good luck!

Jinglejanglefish · 22/08/2019 10:30

I haven't read the full thread but just wanted to say I couldn't agree more.

My mum is one of the 'birth is over medicalised' brigade, she skates over the fact that if Dsis hadn't been in hospital her and her twins could've died, and if I hadn't been in hospital DD definitely would've died just after delivery.

Similarly to you, all but one of my NCT group needed birth intervention in hospital and none of us got to use the midwife led suite, we were all moved to the labour ward.

Our NCT group also pushed how easy breastfeeding was. We all struggled massively with it, some of us gave up and some of us pushed on and got there in the end. It was not easy by any stretch of the imagination.

As far as I am concerned, birth is a medical.event, there is a reason so many women used to die. I have never desired a magical birth experience, it is something I just want done as quickly and with as little damage as possible to get my baby. If I have another I will absolutely give birth in a hospital.

chiatta · 23/08/2019 01:10

Just wanted to say I am so glad I have read this thread. 40+6 and was worrying about potential induction and failing at childbirth- what nonsense

WatchingTheMoon · 11/09/2019 02:45

I want a natural birth but of course it might not happen. People who insist they did it and it was easy or straightforward or that it's because of something they did - those people are annoying.

It's like me saying that periods are easy because my periods are short and light. Quite irrelevant for someone who has a lot of pain and heavy flow.

Why can't people just accept that everyone has a different experience?

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