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Tom Cruise - what a w****r!

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Rachey1969 · 07/10/2005 14:09

Apparently, (and having heard his views on post-natal depression, I can believe it) Katie Holmes will have to follow the scientologist rules of childbirth ie no noise (!) in case it traumatises the baby and no pain relief (!) which would surely traumatise the mother...

Anyone out there managed this?!

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expatinscotland · 25/10/2005 16:15

Katie reminds me of everything I grew to detest in many of my fellow American females.

ChicPea · 25/10/2005 16:21

Are you ExPatKat?

expatinscotland · 25/10/2005 16:21

NO! She is Medea now.

motherinferior · 25/10/2005 16:22

no she isn't

expatinscotland · 25/10/2005 16:22

But Tom Cruise is a wanker.

YeahBut · 25/10/2005 17:20

We have friends in NZ that live near the location where The Last Samurai was being filmed and it became common knowledge very quickly amongst the local community that TC was gay. I used to feel a bit sorry for him that he was so afraid to come out, but after his idiotic and uninformed comments regarding clinical depression, have decided to boycott his movies. I find his current antics with KH rather bemusing if not disturbing.

Blu · 25/10/2005 17:38

Is it REALLY such a career no-no in this day and age for a grown man (as opposed to boy band star) to be gay? How ridiculous!
I thouht it was open and clear that susan Sarandon was gay? And not a big deal.

Iam McKellen, Stephen Fry, eetc etc, they all seem to manage without expensive pretend partners!

re silent birth - it's not THAT far from Leboyer, is it? As DS was being slithered on to my stomach I was instincively going 'shhhh! Shhhh!' and trying to stop the obstretrician, registrar, aneastetist, paed, 2 midwives, DP and other birth partner from talking.
Obviously crap if imposed on a woman who feels she needs to yell! Though I don't know how anyone would stop her.

hermykne · 25/10/2005 17:40

is that true about susan sarandon? have to say i am surprised.

Blu · 25/10/2005 17:47

No, maybe I have got that completely wrong. She was loudly anti-Iraq-war and got a lot of stick from middle America for that.
But her biog suggests straight.
Sorry for wild rumour-mongering.
Who is it I'm thinking of?

Nightynight · 25/10/2005 17:49

its not about prejudice though is it? Its the simple fact that women may not fancy him so much if they know hes gay and therefore not interested in them. So he makes more money if he pretends to be straight, because more people are more likely to fancy him, because there are more women than gay men. of course, they could still like him, but I guess he makes more money if they fantasize about marrying him!
if you see what I mean.

hermykne · 25/10/2005 17:49

jodie foster?
shes in this months red mag, and author says shes a long time companion. but jf doesnt acknowledge anything or comment.

mummyhill · 26/10/2005 17:49

Ohhh scary stuff this scientology. Had a friend who read the dianetics book and then a few years later she got a job working for the scientologists. She had to go through a purification thingy and was instructed to fast for two days then was put in a steam room with no water bottle on comming out she was sent to attend lectures. \she managed to get away from the group a few years ago and is petrified of them now.

tribpot · 26/10/2005 18:16

Susan Sarandon's done a very good job of pretending to be hetero, including being married various times, and having children, including with her long term partner, the very lovely Tim Robbins.

Jodie, on the other hand, has never acknowledged any lover, either male or female. Which is of course entirely her business. Given the prejudice I think lesbians still face in Hollywood I think it's a shame she doesn't come out - but for some reason Jodie hasn't sought my opinion on that subject

tribpot · 26/10/2005 18:16

Btw, was being sarky, do not think SS is gay.

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