Young Vibes/Satsie Thomas. New company set up by the same people as Your Child Freedom Formula and Peaky Parents

[Hols12345]

Hello, if you're looking for information on youngvibes.co.uk child anxiety program, they are the same people as YCFF and Peaky Parents. They've set up under a new name.

See previous thread for discussion:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/child_adolescent_mental_health/4352676-Peaky-Parents-Kactus-Kids-formerly-known-as-Your-Child-Freedom-Programme-YCFF-and-other-previous-names-Child-anxiety-programme

Maybe they should signpost ALL parents to this thread to make an informed choice….

For those who have been following this company, this podcast is really interesting. Especially episode 3. AFAIK the organisation discussed in this podcast has no links with Young Vibes but some of the techniques that have reportedly been used by YV are similar, as well as they way they have behaved on and in response to these threads.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/m001kvf8?partner=uk.co.bbc&origin=share-mobile

@NettieRE So sorry to hear you were caught by this. Was this recently? have you found anything better for your DD?

(ps I reported your post to say you used your DD's name in final para, if you do likewise MN will redact it for you).

So sorry and disturbed @NettieRE to read your story. It seems part of their business model to gaslight anyone who later decides they don’t trust or believe in their programme. I see that today they’ve published their recent accounts which will be on view in 10 days so that will be interesting. How is your daughter now? I’m so sorry to hear your husband has been ill as well. Really hope he is doing well now 🙏🏼 thanks for sharing your story as it will be helpful to others thinking about paying for their “services”.

@NettieRE I am shocked by your experience but not surprised at all. We paid a little bit more than you and ended up with nothing as they took on an autistic child without ANY idea of autism. When we stopped joining sessions there was no contact asking how our child was. At this point they had also started charging EXTRA for the parents zooms!!

Like you, soon after their charges plummeted as they tried different things.

It is outrageous that they/Sam are more concerned about their own self-made financial predicament. And I am not at all surprised by the outrageous things said to you and your child. Your child is right about Sam and I believe you are right not to put your trust in then.

And dont feel a fool. Like all of us parents who paid up we were in a very difficult place at the time just wanting to help our children.

Hi all, here is a video of Sam talking about Autism. I don't really understand how this can be ok. There's so much misinformation in this. https://www.linkedin.com/posts/young-vibes-1990a0281anxiety-anxious-anxietyrecovery-activity-7112490724629061634-nJud?utm_source=li_share&utm_content=feedcontent&utm_medium=g_mb_web&utm_campaign=copy

@NettieRE thanks for posting your experience. It's quite an upsetting read. Please be compassionate to yourself, you've obviously been through a really difficult time. Did you also leave a review on Trustpilot? I feel like I already heard the story about Sam telling your daughter about stealing the towels.

@Hols12345 I dont know what to say about that clip! It's definitely not coming from someone who has any real knowledge of autism. Autism is so much more than how she describes. It is so individual to each autistic person. And anxiety comes hand in hand with autism a lot of the time. It is not one or the other.

Agree @3xteens . It's also not my experience of Autism diagnosis via CAMHS. My child's diagnosis took 3 years.

Sam claims that if there is ever a hint of a suggestion that ASD might be a possibility then your child will definitely be "put on the spectrum".

That is so unspeakably unprofessional.

They chose to spend all their money. They also chose to do many other things that have subsequently been picked up on and questioned.

Dont let this put you off fighting for your refund if you know it's right. I wish we had.

@mnhq would it be possible to edit the title of this thread to include "Satsie Thomas", which is another name this company is now using? Thank you 👍

@NettieRE did you post this on a trustpilot review? I've definitely read this email from sam before and was wondering if they'd deleted your review?

Hmm

I was booked into the webinar this morning- I was interested as a professional who deals with EBSA and would like some extra resources in my toolkit. I ended up here after some research as the ads etc don’t tell you what is ‘different’ about their method and I was curious to know alof it was different to the practices I had already come across.
Thank you for sharing this video- it has highlighted to me that these people can not possibly be professionals or hold any relevant experience or qualifications if they are negating a diagnosis of ASD by a qualified practitioner. While I accept that some anxiety can manifest in a similar way to ASD, actual drs do know the difference. This is worrying and dangerous

Martin told me I was “hindering” the process because I didn’t want my daughter speaking to Sam after she had one session with her. Sam said many things that made me uncomfortable.

It does feel very culty. If you don’t agree with them, you are “hindering the process” . Look at Martin’s manifestos on trust pilot belittling and blaming anybody who doesn’t agree with their methods. I am a lot more comfortable with what I see from Doctor Becky Kennedy.

Had anybody done this yet?

Thanks! Same experience completely.

Husband is fine. Thanks you so much. He had melanoma in 2022 and was very sick with immunotherapy. It was gone by fall but they thought a secondary cancer had spread to his brain called leptomeningeal, which is terminal. 3 months later, they realized they misdiagnosed him. Then they thought he had another bit of cancer on his brain (treatable) in June but by August, when they went to do the treatment, the MRI could not see it. All good now thankfully. My only point in sharing it was that we received no extra support during this time from Satsie Thomas , an anxiety program, in the time of the greatest anxiety. Did not get in to this before as I was no reviewing my husband's cancer, I was reviewing the program.