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Breastfeeding till the age of 4 - what do you think?

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lisalisa · 20/07/2005 14:20

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CroNanny · 24/07/2005 17:58

Sometimes I think that mothers have inbuilt sensors to disagree with everything a nanny has to say.
I am not saying that all nannys know best, but I don't think all mothers know best either.
We are all trying to do what is best for the children, and that is mostly based on things we learn, from what ever resourses avaliable.
Why is there such a divide between mothers and nannys?
Surely we should be partners and work together, not against one another?

hunkermunker · 24/07/2005 17:58

NurseyJo, if you're still reading this thread, did you read the WHO link I posted?

skeptic · 24/07/2005 17:58

THat's 'cos you're just a mum, Hunker

hunkermunker · 24/07/2005 17:59

True. I'm not a llama either I notice there's one posting on NJ now!

tiktok · 24/07/2005 18:00

Wireart, still waiting for you to tell me if it's right for NurseyJo to give false info. I admire your support for someone you feel is being critcised unfairly, but we have explained what the issue is - it's her false information and her assertions that she can't possibly be wrong. Maybe you think we should have ignored this in order to be kind to her?

skeptic · 24/07/2005 18:00

I'm not sure what I could get out of a partnership with a nanny, Cro.

CroNanny · 24/07/2005 18:02

Than it's a good thing you don't have one, sceptic.

tiktok · 24/07/2005 18:04

CroNanny, I don't think there needs to be a divide. As you say, ideally, nannies and mothers are on the 'same side'. But the quickest way for any mother to lose faith in whatever professional she is working with is for her to find out the professional is peddling incorrect information. The mum then thinks 'blimey, she's got that wrong. Wonder what else she doesn't know about?'

That's what this particular dispute it.

I agree that no mother and no nanny has all the answers. But I think NurseyJo thought (and still thinks) she has it right about this one.And if she just posts to say 'sorry, I got it wrong' I will let it go

Wireart · 24/07/2005 18:04

Sorry, didn't mean to ignore the question!

I think Jo gave out information she believed to be correct and I'm absolutely positive that before advising parents again she will do a little of her own research and advise of the correct information in the future; as you all say she is a professional and mums and dads rely on her advice to be able to do the best for their babies and give them the best possible start in life.

I honestly don't think that she would intentionally give out incorrect advice and once she has done her research if she feels she was wrong, i'm sure she'll come back on here and say so.

tiktok · 24/07/2005 18:05

Thanks, Wireart.

Should I hold my breath?

hunkermunker · 24/07/2005 18:06

Wireart, I do hope so.

But the "if she was wrong" thing worries me slightly...she was wrong, there is much evidence out there to support that (some links posted on this thread). Why still give her the benefit of the doubt?

Wireart · 24/07/2005 18:07

I said "if she feels she was wrong", not "if she was wrong"

beemokha · 24/07/2005 18:07

I have tried to contribute some intelligent and insightful things plus provided relevant information and science-based evidence on the benefits of long-term BF, all of it either totally ignored or joked at.

I even posed a question to the "nannies" who say that BF beyond 12 months is a waste of time. Not one had the courage to reply.

Having followed this thread every day, I have come to the conclusion that most of you are up your own anal passages, BIG TIME ! You only stick up for your "mates" and pat each other on the back and ignore every one else, even the ones that agree with you.

I will get off this website quick before I waste any more of my precious time on it.

skeptic · 24/07/2005 18:08

Maybe Jo needs to be cut some slack as a face-saving exercise, otherwise there's nothing in it for her to come back here and to resume a sensible discussion.

tiktok · 24/07/2005 18:08

HM, I think Wireart says'if she feels she was wrong'....so the 'if' is about Jo's feelings. It is possible she reads the research, and still decides her colleagues are right, and the WHO are wrong, and that somewhere, goodness knows where, the DH are still saying 'little nutritinal benefit'

skeptic · 24/07/2005 18:09

Eh, Beemocka?

Wireart · 24/07/2005 18:09

Actually, I have said that I don't agree with the opinion of not bf-ing after 12 months but I also said that I don't think there is a need to get so personal when someone disagrees with your opinion.

CroNanny · 24/07/2005 18:10

Maybe the information Jo has is a bit dated, or has changed since she was informed. There are researches done all the time, and frankly I think they tend to change their mind too often (scientists).
So who are you suppose to belive?
TBH I think that everyone should breastfeed untill they feel comfortable/able to do so.

tiktok · 24/07/2005 18:10

skeptic, this is the internet....no one is going to blow raspberrries or snigger.

NurseyJo - if you come on here and retract, and say you are going to inform yourself better, then I will feel you have done a good job!

hunkermunker · 24/07/2005 18:12

CroNanny, personally, I'd believe the World Health Organisation with a bit of common sense thrown in. After all, breastmilk doesn't suddenly turn to water (as someone's already said on this thread) on the day after a baby's one - that's just logic!

tiktok · 24/07/2005 18:13

CroNanny, the DH have never said there is little nutritional value after 12 months.

NurseyJo was convinced that because she was a professional she had all the up to date info. We couldn't tell her anything new, because as a professional, she already knew it, and we were wrong.

As a professional, you will also be aware (won't you? It is your area....) that the guidance and recommendations on infant feeding haven't changed all that much over the past 15-20 years. It's not exactly a fast-moving field.

skeptic · 24/07/2005 18:13

Wireart, it becomes personal when someone says that their opinion is superior to other people's opinion because of their professional qualifications (especially unclear ones that child carers have). Before that, the thread was all about personal opinion sharing with no one trumping another.

You may not have been around on this site at christmas when a poster with so-called professional qualifications was not hwat she appeared to be.

CroNanny · 24/07/2005 18:13

Beemokha
how matture of you [green] NOT
talk about generalising

Wireart · 24/07/2005 18:18

No, I have not been coming on here too long... I have no idea what happened at Christmas time.

Lisa2 · 24/07/2005 18:19

OH MY GOD... i simply can not believe how imature and stupid some of you so called mothers are being!!!
I was simply making a point... GET OVER IT!!!

So why are so many nannies and maternity nurses hired to look after newborns and every other age if we are so unprofesional???

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