Breastfeeding till the age of 4 - what do you think?

[lisalisa]

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ruty: re LI, start another thread. Not sure I would be able to help - I am not a 'professional' you know, therefore do not know everything and I will not be able to direct you with certaintly solely on the basis on what many people have told me .....

Ameriscot2005, you have no formal qualifications, but you have five children? You must be getting it so wrong all the time (I dread to think how wrong I'm getting it without a GCSE in being a mummy!)

Just been on that nanny site.

An eye opener. No one - not one single person - has challenged NurseyJo about the erroneous 'department of health says little nutritional benefit after 12 months'.

Instead, they are all telling her how professional she is.

Scary, isn't it Tiktok? Perhaps I should post the link to the WHO again?!

This is what worries me about people taking the advice of "professionals" - it's so often a complete load of toss

I'm sure every mother want's what is best for her child. I think every mother should be allowed to breastfeed for as long as she wants to. I don't see any harm in it. I belive breast milk is good....
But equaly I think that mothers who are not giving into breastfeeding should not be made feel BAD. My best friend was under so much pressure to keep breastfeeding after 6 months, and all I told her was..."You need to do what feels right for you and your baby"...
Personally I don't know what I would do. I think I would breastfeed untill I felt comfortable with it. But than again I am the person who belives that baby bottles are should not be used past 12 months, so not sure how I would feel about breastfeeding.
And before I get attacked for not having my own kids and not doing it myself already, belive me there is nothing I'd like more. But we have not been blessed with good fertility
And please don't knock maternity nurses, they are doing wonderfull jobs helping new mothers get to grips, as I said in my earlier post, not all mothers are natural and they don't know what to do. Everybody needs a little help sometimes. Some lucky people have family around to show them the ropes, but others have been unlucky, or have been brought up by a maternity nanny themselfes. If you have no one to learn from, what are you suppose to do?

CroNanny, I don't think anybody's saying mums should breastfeed at all - just that to be told that breastmilk isn't nutritious past 12 months (or 6 months as has been stated on the thread on NJ, which, given your name on here, I assume you've seen?) is wrong in the extreme.

That is why people are annoyed on here - and nobody's done anything but slate mums on NJ and hug NurseyJo for being hard done by on here, when all she did was make factually inaccurate posts and accuse us of being drunk.

On NJ, there is a thing called private chat and we like to show support for other members and not publicly humiliate them; I would like to say that I have the humble opinion that cows milk is surely best for claves and breast milk is surely best for human babies. I have told this to Jo and we have not fallen out but respected each other's opinions. There is no need to bitch or get personal.

Are you seriously saying that the majority of maternity nurses are employed by families who need them, rather than just want them?

To have the financial wherewithall but not the ability to look after a baby...hard to imagine it would apply to a large number of families.

I rather like the good old attitude fostered by midwives that you get on with it yourself from day 1 - with emotional support, of course.

Are you saying that you weren't drunk, HM?

Wireart, when somebody makes totally wrong statements and gets very shirty about how they are professional and know what they are talking about, then goes on to say that anyone who has disagreed with them is drunk, would you call that personal?

Or is it only OK when it's an NJ member saying it about an MN member?

Ameriscot2005, pissed as a fart, but that's not the point

Actually, I wasn't - I'm 15 weeks pg - I'm "only" a mum, but even I know that getting off my face while pg isn't a good plan

no, somebody admittd to having had a drink or two and said that they may not be ablke to bite their tongue as much as they would usually..... please don't ask me to find this part of the thread, it's far too long and far too boring now!

A drink or two can give Dutch courage - it does not mean that you have lost all sense of rational thought.

Oh, and i think you'll find that I was actually supporting your opinion, not laying into you!(except for the being personally mean)

Thank you, Wireart. I don't think I was personally mean, was I?

Dutch courage is one thing but being horrible to someone who was just trying to help (as I am) is another thing entirely.

Wireart, I wasn't horrible to you!

Wireart, I agree about the need not get personal. I am not especially bothered about NurseyJo's opinion - if she is a professional, she'll keep it to herself when it comes to supporting families, surely? When asked for information, she will share facts that are correct. If she is then challenged, and pointed towards the correct information, as she is a professional, I would expect her to seek out the information, and retract when she realises what she said was not correct.

Instead, she posted that because she is a professional she knows what she is talking about.

These are not differences in opinions we are discussing here. She can have whatever opinion she likes. But when families ask her advice about weaning, and what milk their babies can have, is it right that she tells them breastmilk has little nutritional value, and the department of health says so?

Who is being horrible?

Aren't we just challenging opinions?

What is your definition of horrible?

And ok, with a little sleep deprivation, maybe Jo didn't come across as well as she could have but she was in the end just trying to help and she was just portraying the information that she had been given by other professionals in her field.

Ah...Chinese Whispers...

Wireart, she said she was in a position to get all the up to date info from the DH and she knew she was right because she is a professional. She didn't retract when corrected, and instead moaned about everyone being horrid to her!!!

Jee-zus!!!

I didn't say you were horrible to me; just Jo. I thought the comments made about her were too harsh and that she didn't deserve to be layed into in that way

If I had given out information, got on my high horse and said I was a professional and knew what I was talking about, then found out my information was wrong...I wouldn't just go and ask for sympathy on another site.

of course not.