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Oooooooh, what to do? Do i post this on Breast and bottle feeding or on Weaning? because Annabel Karmel's been telling The Standard that after 4 months breastmilk is not enough to keep babies healthy...

175 replies

Aitch · 24/01/2008 22:15

here

yowza!

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terramum · 24/01/2008 23:36

...maybe we should bombard Ms K's website asking her for some references to back up her claims ...as far as I'm concerned her claims as they stand atm are no better than any research funded by formula companies.

The iron thing is plain out of date & EFAs are available in bm if the mother eats enough.

I am so that a paper would actually print such rubbish...unless they are getting a lucrative advertising deal out of it ...although it's interesting to see that her claim that "a generation of children could end up having health problems..." is effectively refuted by the last line of the article!

prettylovebird · 24/01/2008 23:51

i am SO angry about this im going to complain to

www.pcc.org.uk/complaints/process.htm

Janni · 24/01/2008 23:51

The sooner she can get BF mums on to her little recipe books, the better for her empire.

Mine did just fine on BM only till 6 months.

I'd sooner listen to the W.H.O. than the over-coiffed Ms. Karmel.

prettylovebird · 24/01/2008 23:52

the addy is for,the Press Complaints Commission

prettylovebird · 24/01/2008 23:56

someon actually gave her one of her books, i didn't bloody want it, its a waste of trees imo, i mean ffs who need telling how to puree carrott! and why the fuck would you need to puree them anyway.
actually thats probably why sh wants babies weaned at 4 months,because they are not ready for food so the only way to get them to have to it liquidse it

where as if you wait till 6 months you can give them finger food thereby by passing all her bullshit [waste of trees and energy] crapola products

grrrrr

pankhurst · 25/01/2008 00:19

Iron BUILT our nation. I firmly recommend a GOOD DOSE (Floradix twice a day, given COLD) will firm up stools and boost the Dunkerque spirit!!!

"Boob-snoggling" never buttered any parsnips.

Unless (bright idea)...AK could start writing books for breastfeeders - containing recipes for us that are FULL OF IRON. Then we could deliver THAT onto our pathetic punies?!

(Of course, such recipes would have to be ones made with one hand and your trousers round your ankles - so she might have to move away from the decoupaged cauliflowers and marmosetted anchovies....?)

.......oh no, hang on. I've spotted a flaw....

Better diet gives vim and verve. Makes breastfeeders feel cocky and rebellious. MIGHT breastfeed for longer? WHICH might delay weaning onto AK's range? AND buying puree noggins? CHANGE IN FOCUS would thrust her out of her cosy baby-food publishing niche and into the iron-pumping world of grownup cookery?

Which would be very very bad! How would she feed HER three???

I shall take my limp ironless nippies and go back to marmosetting.

Off Booby, Baby! Off!

verylittlecarrot · 25/01/2008 00:26

"Boob-snoggling"

snort

harpsichordcarrier · 25/01/2008 00:27

I amdelighted to tell I can't access that site.
I have outsourced by outrage to aitch hunker and QV
keep up the good work ladies

S1ur · 25/01/2008 00:29

ahem

welliemum · 25/01/2008 03:17

From Practical Parenting website by AK:

"Current Department of Health advice is that babies shouldn't be weaned until 6 months and should be exclusively breastfed until then.

......personally, I prefer babies to be weaned at around 5 months."

(because when it comes to weaning your baby, my personal preference is obviously the most important consideration)

I really have no words.

MrsJohnCusack · 25/01/2008 07:01

oh FFS
what the hell does she know

the two comments that are on the article are just mind numbingly ridiculous - one saying she's childless and one saying 'didn't do my great big tall son any harm'

Tommy · 25/01/2008 08:01

that would be the "tall son" who doesn't know how to cook a meal wouldn't it?

warthog · 25/01/2008 08:11

i've lost the will to live.

S1ur · 25/01/2008 08:46

This was posted by Annabel on her forum after someone joined and posted a couple of questions very late last night...

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Misquoted

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Thank you for your posts.

I was extremely upset yesterday at the misleading article published in the Evening Standard.

These are NOT my views.

I am a great supporter of breastfeeding and breastfed my four children.

The journalist that interviewed me has acknowledged that there are some serious innacuracies in the piece which do not accurately report my conversation with him. In fact he told my PR that the headline would be changed in later editions but it remained .

I will be dealing with this very damaging article today .

I have spent 16 years trying to help parents give their babies and children a good start in life by offering good quality food and sound advice .

Just for the record I have always stated that breast milk provides all the nutrients that a baby needs for the first 6 months of life. However at 6 months , a baby's iron supply inherited from their mother runs out and they need iron in their diet and other nutrients like essential fatty acids. This is stated in all my books.

I am disappointed that so many errors in this piece could seriously affect a mother's understanding of baby's nutritional needs.

Annabel Karmel

S1ur · 25/01/2008 08:47

www.annabelkarmel.com/community/showthread.php?p=48151#post48151

Again deliberately not linking

StealthPolarBear · 25/01/2008 08:53

So she was misquoted?
I was just about to say (it's all been said before, I know!)

  • Wow that someone who promotes mushy weaning should hold this view
  • Maybe the WHO should consult her and revise their guidelines
Karen999 · 25/01/2008 09:11

Lol...went on to her forum! I want to know how come on that forum you have senior and junior memebers!!??

I want to be a senior member....

warthog · 25/01/2008 09:13

that's a relief

prettylovebird · 25/01/2008 09:14

sounds like a load of bullshit to me, its just a way for her to ger publicity at whatever cost

i hope people start to boycott her even more now, i really do grr

come on lets think of some other things ak
could stand for,
AK= arrogant knob

mmmmmm why can her initials be cb, clueless bastard, seems to sum her up really

warthog · 25/01/2008 09:19

i very much doubt that she wants THIS sort of negative publicity.

scottishmummy · 25/01/2008 09:23

Tosh!WHO and NICE guidelines recommend BF for minimum 6mths she is incorrect this is totally erroneous

CorrieDale · 25/01/2008 09:37

What? Meat & fish before 6 months? Radical.

terramum · 25/01/2008 11:27

So AK has corrected by saying "at 6 months , a baby's iron supply inherited from their mother runs out and they need iron in their diet and other nutrients like essential fatty acids. This is stated in all my books"

She is still WRONG!!!!!! The iron doesn't suddenly run out! It STARTS to deplete between 6 & 9 months AAAARRRGGGGG

EFAs are available in BM whatever the age of the baby/child.....

...someone please ask her for references to her claims

hunkermunker · 25/01/2008 11:48

PMSL at AK being a Junior Member on her own sodding forum!

I have a vision of her, on a bike, pedalling...backwards...frantically.

As for the other people on that thread - I love the "offend offend offend" nature of the posts, then the "these are my thoughts and not in any way intended to offend" final line.

I might try that.

IorekByrnison · 25/01/2008 12:07

She is a naughty little pixie isn't she?

"I was extremely upset yesterday at the misleading article published in the Evening Standard"

Hmmm. Hard to think of a more convenient "misrepresentation". She can put her sackcloth and ashes on now but I'm sure she is well aware that the vast majority of ES readers won't question the article at all.

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