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SMA GOLD ON EASTENDERS?

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Dalrymps · 03/01/2008 20:43

I probably don't know what i'm on about but i just flicked on to eastenders and during one scene there was a carton of SMA Gold on the surface in the background, it was the house of the one who has just had the baby with the ginger husband i think (not too sure cause i don't really watch it), anyway i think her baby in it is quite young...
Anyway, i was just wondering if this is allowed, i mean, isn't it like an indirect form of advertising formula for newborns? I'm not totally against formula or anything, I mix feed myself, I just think it seems like their advertising it when they shouldn't? Any thoughts on this?

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carmenelectra · 07/01/2008 11:32

I did just say that whatever was said on that thread about the bf wanting to stop was well intentioned actually.

carmenelectra · 07/01/2008 11:32

or 'however well intentioned'.

babyjjbaby · 07/01/2008 11:36

i don't really see what the problem is cos honey in eastenders breast feeds her baby so it is giving people a mixed vieaw there is nothing wrong with them showing a carton of milk and they show other foods aswell and products there is nothing wrong with bottle feeding whether or not u see bottle or breast feeding advertised it won't affect what u choose to do cos u'll choose waht is right for u and ur family

VictorianSqualor · 07/01/2008 11:39

babyjjbaby, have you read the whole thread? We have covered honey bfing already.

VictorianSqualor · 07/01/2008 11:40

Oh, and unfortunately advertising does/did have a huge impact on whether or not people bottle or breast feed, which is why it is illegal.

carmenelectra · 07/01/2008 11:44

babyjj, id keep out of this if you have any sense, its not worth the bloody argument honestly.

claraenglish · 07/01/2008 11:48

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VictorianSqualor · 07/01/2008 11:50

Honey bf'd in the cafe, and Ian got all shitty about it, then it was talked about in the pub and how it should be banned or something. Only Ian actually objected though, then Billy kicked off.

I think she also bf'd when Bradley and Stacey went round to look at her flat.

claraenglish · 07/01/2008 11:51

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carmenelectra · 07/01/2008 11:57

oh God it didnt take someone long to analyse something else.Ok i take back what i said about the bf asking for ff advice, forget i said it. Not my place to comment anyway its hers. i only skimmed through the thread and was illustrating a point(or so i thought). Clearly i didnt read it as thorougly as other people on here.

May i suggest some of you get a life and stop analysing everything. Or another suggestion would be (if you are not already) retrain as a health visitor/midwife/bf supportworker/neonatal nurse/SHO as some of you have clearly missed you vocation.

claraenglish · 07/01/2008 11:58

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babyjjbaby · 07/01/2008 11:59

i agrree with carmenelectra

JeremyVile · 07/01/2008 12:02

Tiktok - you are clearly an informed, intelligent an respected poster so why you feel the need to insinuate that those who have a differing opinion to you do so due to guilt over formula feeding, I really dont understand.

It's not the first time I've seen you do it either.

How about you stick to the debate at hand and leave the other crap out of it?

FioFio · 07/01/2008 12:03

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karen999 · 07/01/2008 12:07

I think it is important that we remember this is just a debate. We all have different opinions/experiences. What is sometimes dissappointing to see is when some use insulting words/remarks....lets not all fall out ladies over something that is really not that important!!!And no Tiktok, I am not deluded either....

Monkeybird · 07/01/2008 12:08

Carmen

You know what really worries me (leaving aside all my original worries about the formula in EE) is that you are someone who is trained to help women BF according to your posts.

You are so incredibly hostile and undermining ('why do you all have to analyse everything' 'get a life' as if analysis and thought is a bad thing) to the women who are arguing a sound case for defending BF and BF policy. You were the one who used the words 'not committed enough' about people who can no longer BF, and then wondered why people got upset about it. You might take a leaf out of the people who need to get a life's book and try a bit of thought/analysis.

That all of this nonsense should come from someone who's actively involved in trying to help women BF, given it can be such a fraught, complex and political process, reminds me of exactly why I get so hot under the collar about the quality of advice women are getting.

Sabire · 07/01/2008 12:09

carmenelectra - some of us ARE already trained and working with new/pregnant mothers and are passionate about the issue of baby feeding.

That's why we come on boards like this - because we're interested in the subject and love to discuss it with other like minded people. I've learned so much from reading and posting on parenting boards.

Where's the harm in analysing other people's attitudes and behaviour? You don't have to participate in these sorts of discussions if you find them tedious, but there's nothing intrinsically unsound in the rest of us wanting to!

tiktok · 07/01/2008 12:16

Deluded was a joke - hence the , the first time anyway .

Not meant to be taken literally.

I don't think it is insulting, especially, and not as insulting as being told to get a life!

I was not saying she was 'deluded' for her opinion, but because of her interpretation of another thread (bear with me!) which she interpreted as 'lots' of people 'telling' a mother to 'stick' with breastfeeding. None of that was true.

Jeremy, some people do feel guilt over formula feeding, and this does colour their response to debates about formula advertising and promotion. I understand that, as I said, and pointed out that the debate about formula feeding and advertising is not about them and their experience. I am sure you understand all that.

tiktok · 07/01/2008 12:16

hence the

karen999 · 07/01/2008 12:19

Ok Tiktok -

Sabire · 07/01/2008 12:20

"I think this has been over analysed aswell. If the woman is bottle feeding she would need formula in the kitchen"

Um - did those people who choose the props for EE need to put a carton of the highest profile brand of infant formula currently on sale in the UK today, with its highly recognisable logo clearly displayed in the middle of our TV screens during a scene shown on peak time television, in order to get the point across that the character was bottlefeeding?

No - of course not. There are a myriad of other ways of doing that which don't involve raising the profile of SMA.

carmenelectra · 07/01/2008 12:25

monkeybird,

WOW I was expecting my job to be mentioned before now but guess what i mentioned this previously! i knew i would get jumped on about the job. OK so i put people off bf because im hostile (wish you knew me!)and undermining!Sorry not as hostile , undermining and most of all as patronising as such regular posters on the feeding threads.

I overexplained myself re: being committed to bf and tried to tell you i wasnt being malicious far from it. Some of you cant bear the fact that women give up/dont want to bf for reasons other than not having support. OF course no one here would give up/not bf just because its really hard work! It must be the fault of the health professionals for giving crap support.

Good for you sabire at least you probably do know what you are talking about.You are in a position to comment and no, i wont be visiting these threads again.

FioFio · 07/01/2008 12:28

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JeremyVile · 07/01/2008 12:32

Tiktok - yes, I understand that some women feel guilt that they didn't/couldn't breastfeed.

But that line gets trotted out on these threads sometimes where there is absolutely no reason for it other than to try to devalue someone elses opinions.

Those of us who formula fed have every right to an opinion on the politics surrounding formula (funnily enough) and are entitled to put our points across without the insinuation that our opinions stem from some deep-seated guilt.

It's a pretty tired line and IMO on a par with the BF nazi/mafia comments.