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Night Feeders Part 4 Up All Night Feeding, newborns, sleep regressions, toddlers, every knackered Mummy welcome!

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Cannotbelieveit · 09/09/2014 09:26

Here's a fresh thread!

Let's start by introducing us/babies again Grin

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OliviaRinHerts · 22/09/2014 22:27

I know they are all different but everyone seems to be in some routine where baby goes to sleep early or at least earlier in the evening. We didn't do last feed until 930 as normally Mine is awake a lot of the night and we therefore sleep in. We also wait for hubby to get home from work. Should I be starting a Routine where we get up earlier in the day and just try to go to bed at 8pm. Means DH doesn't see much of the little oneHmm

Writerwannabe83 · 22/09/2014 22:27

auntiemaggie - my DS will only nap if he's in my arms and only if he has fed to sleep. The exceptions to this are if he's in the car or I'm taking him for a walk. Part of me thinks I should try and address it but at the moment I just don't have the mental strength Smile I've got enough on my plate at the moment without having to deal with the stress of dealing with nap changes Grin

OliviaRinHerts · 22/09/2014 22:30

Good idea writer wannabe. Mine is 5 weeks old today and I am new to the group so haven't been around too long but I think most of the others are a little older no?

Writerwannabe83 · 22/09/2014 22:31

olivia - my DS is 6 months and it has only been the last 2 weeks where he has been going to bed at 8pm. Until then he was regularly awake until 10.30pm and it was just his norm. I don't know why his bedtime suddenly shifted but it happened naturally as opposed to me trying to force it. I can't remember how old your baby is but if your current routine works for you then that's fine - things will take their natural cause and your baby's bedtime will get earlier as he dictates Smile

(DS is 6 months)

notadoctor · 22/09/2014 22:44

My DS has always stayed up in the evenings too - I feel like I wouldn't get to see him properly if he went to bed with his big sister at 7pm. It's only now he's 6mo that he's showing signs of being sleepy earlier so will be starting a 7ish bedtime from the week after next (we're away for the next couple of weekends so no point before then)

DS is going to be moving into his own room then as well. Feel a little bit bereft at the idea but my DH thinks it's time - I think he might be missing me as we haven't shared a bed in yonks!

I still feed to sleep too. Although I'm probably not a good person to give sleep advice as my DD (almost 3yo) is the world's worst sleeper! All I would say is I night weaned her at 8mo because HV said she'd sleep through if I did. She didn't. It just got harder to settle her. So, with DS I'm going to follow his lead more... Hoping a relaxed approach will pay off!

(DS - 6mo and DD - 2.9yo)

dilys4trevor · 22/09/2014 22:46

Olivia mine is 5 weeks too. Our evenings can be quite traumatic. Lots of crying and seemingly ravenous, but then getting on the boob and then coming off screaming and red faced like in pain. Thrashing about etc. Formula doesn't seem to make it better either. It's not every night and it's generally really only in the evenings. Is this classic colic?

Sorry I am so sporadic on here. I do read all the posts - I just struggle to get time to post much (got 2 other DCs - 5 and 3).

Sammyviv · 22/09/2014 22:54

Suea-

Sammyviv · 22/09/2014 22:58

Start again
Suea - your doing good at 7 weeks and having a routine. I keep getting told there's no point in having one until DS is 6weeks. I asked the question today about DS having long naps and should I wake him. Midwife said the same to me, 4-5 hrs is fine as long as his nappies are healthy and he's feeding well.

DS is 2 weeks old

Cannotbelieveit · 22/09/2014 23:03

Dilys sounds kind of colicky we had that the first 5-6 weeks.

Our earlier bedtimes just gradually happened and I followed his lead

DS1 17 months DS2 4 months

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cookielove · 22/09/2014 23:09

So we had a super busy day today, after having a terrible night with ds. Dreading the same kind of night tonight and scarily he seems to be following suit :(

Sammyviv · 22/09/2014 23:16

Ladies quick question before I try and get some sleep.... And I always ask the same things sorry....
Because DS Is brining up milk after feeds, if I put him in his Moses basket I worry he's Gona be sick....I just burped him but nothing came up. Should I be worried? I put him on his side as he sleeps better that way....

DS is 2 weeks

Sammyviv · 22/09/2014 23:27

Scrap that I'm not sleeping he woke up again Shock...I'll be here for a while

cookielove · 22/09/2014 23:29

sammy I often put ds on his side or he puts himself like that, and he sleeps better he is 6 weeks. If he has burped there is not much else you can do!

Sammyviv · 22/09/2014 23:44

Cookie
I've just put him down again I'll see how he goes, I kinda sleep with one ear open anyway. Thanks

Writerwannabe83 · 23/09/2014 00:25

DS had me up at 23.30pm and it took me another half hour to get him to go to sleep again. That 30 minutes consisted of crying, screaming, feeding, screaming, rocking, patting, feeding and screaming. I was about ready to explode.

Meanwhile my DH a having his lovely undisturbed sleep like he does every single night.

Then tomorrow I get to be responsible for DS from the moment he wakes up until the moment he goes to bed (and all the subsequent wake ups) with no breaks whatsoever.

DH spends a maximum of 3 hours with him after work and even them I'm still doing all baby related stuff whilst DH relaxes on the sofa after his 'hard day' Angry

I just feel so, so pissed off about it all - am I the only one who thinks their DP/DH hasn't got a clue what life is like for us and how easy they've got it?!?!

I absolutely adore my DS but sometimes it would just be nice not to have to responsible got him 24/7 whilst DH just plays the 'fun dad' role. My DH actually said to me the other day with a big smile on his face: "I'm just his play mate!!" I nearly went mad and screamed that he needs to be a parent, not a play mate. He won't even change DS's nappy without whining about it. He comes home from work, sits down and watches me race round doing things for DH and housework etc and just once if like him to say, "Shall I get DS washed and in his pyjamas tonight?" - but it's never going to happen. Everything just seems to fall to me. I feel so resentful at times - I feel like blowing up at him.

Sometimes I wish I had bottle fed DS because then I could just walk out and leave to be DH be a parent for once!!

Sorry for the rambling - I'm just feeling very angry about home life at the moment and needed to let it out!!

squizita · 23/09/2014 00:30

Hi i'm new. 2 day old girl! Just got herself in a right tizz - was hungry but it seemed like she had forgotten or didn't know what to do ie suckling her hand not the offered boob then angry! Too angry to suckle.
Got her reasonably calm and now she is actually latched well to her least favourite side and giving it a toughening up to match the favourite side.

squizita · 23/09/2014 00:35

Oh also my question -DD will only sleep ON me (not merely near/Co sleep) if she senses me in the room. Any ideas? I can't wee when she's sleepy ley alone anything else!Smile
Only 2 days.

OliviaRinHerts · 23/09/2014 01:06

First (bf) feed of the night having having had his daily bottle (ff) at 930pm.... He woke me up grizzling so I fed him but he was literally on the boob for 5 mins When he pulled off himself and fell asleep. .... Or so I thought but we will see As he is now in his basket and grizzling again. If I could make him feed longer at night maybe I would get more than an hours sleep at a time!

Ds is five weeks

OliviaRinHerts · 23/09/2014 01:22

Writer wannabe- that's tough. We have an arrangement that DH deals with ds in the evenings(literally as soon as he walks in) but I do the nights...except at weekends when dh does all baby stuff inc night nappies (I do the feeds still but literally DH gets up and passes him to me and takes him off me so I can go back to sleep)

Does your DH/DP work weekends? Would he consider doing something like that as it is not fair on you at all.

Would you consider expressing a bottle so DH could feed him- even just at the weekend? Could you talk to him about how you feel or would he not listen?

I'm lucky (most ofthe time) as DH wants to help but can totally see you need more support

OliviaRinHerts · 23/09/2014 01:38

Attempt 2 to get ds settled in Moses basket after a brief feed.... Let's see...

Squizita - congratulations! I'm fairly new (ds 1 is five weeks) but as I've been told ( and others who are more experienced will give you their experiences too) newborns like to be close to you. It's all they have known in the womb. The want the warmth and want to hear your heart beat. I still get ds to struggle to sleep in his basket (like tonight he will fall asleep on me but will wake 5 mins after I put him in his Moses basket). Try rolled up blankets around your lo. Also a Hot water bottle in his bAsket before you lie her in so she can feel the warmth (obviously take it out and literally just use it to warm up the sheets mimicking body heat )

The other trick I found the other day is more about me. The Moses basket is on my side of the bed BUT when DH left for work I slept on his side and that actually helped me to stop constantly checking and peering into the basket and disturbing baby. If the baby knows you are there they may griZle for you but if they can't see you then maybe they will self settle if you leave them a Few mins. Ive heard the word self settle a Lot on here..... And it may just have worked for me as I put baby in his basket five mins ago and although he woke up and was grizzling I ignored him (as was writing this) and he may have settled himself. I think I am usually too quick to pick him up but I'm learning!!

squizita · 23/09/2014 02:25

Thanks Olivia Yes - I think I rush to her and in a few weeks she'll be able to handle herself better. I had a nap today and she dozed in the pram with DH next to her so FX that bodes well.
Having said that I'm here now as post feed she fell asleep on my chest. I'm watching bad TV till 3 when DH is literally taking her off me and settling her with me and my milk scent sway from her nose! She will sleep for him if im nowhere near. He's been very good at helping me get chunks of sleep so far!

squizita · 23/09/2014 02:27

Grin DH wasn't in the pram with her. He's no pro basketball player but not quite that short! He was in his leather man chair!

AuntieMaggie · 23/09/2014 03:26

writer thank you - I think ds is gonna be a mummy's boy! agree with you about the dh/dp situation - I asked dp to let me have a couple of hours each eve to do stuff, not even me stuff I'm talking sorting out my washing, ds's stuff etc but I don't even get 15 mins without him saying to ds "where's mummy? " etc!

olivia I settle ds about 9:30 otherwise by the time dp gets home I wouldn't have an evening with him and I go to bed at the same time to get some decent sleep. Plus he'd be up earlier the next morning at the moment. When he sleeps longer and he can self settle ill put him down earlier.

Welcome squizita - newborns are like that :) olivia has some good advice and there's loads more on previous pages on this thread. mine is wrap/swaddle in a blanket whilst baby is on you so when they go down they smell you on the blanket and stay warm.

So I was right about ds - he slept for 30 mins then wanted feeding! (why do they wait til ypuve just entered deep sleep?) So I fed him and he woke again after I put him down so dp got up settled him back to sleep (unusual for him to offer or succeed) and he slept for 4 hours! He has now been feeding for an hour though!

AuntieMaggie · 23/09/2014 03:28

Sorry I forgot ( do you know how hard it is to type with the wrong hand while feeding?) ds is 12 weeks :)

Writerwannabe83 · 23/09/2014 03:31

DS woke again not even 3 hours after falling asleep Sad I fed him, changed him and put him back in his cot and he's now just gurgling and squealing to himself. I so desperately need sleep. He normally goes 8-9 hours between feeds overnight so I don't know what's got in to him tonight. I wish he'd go back to sleep though Sad

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