How to stay awake during night feeds part 8 - bring your snacks and join the fun!

[GoatBongosAnonymous]

Here we go at 7001 messages!

[MrsNPattz]

First feed here.

Yes days like that are lovely in lots of ways, but so hard in others. Hugs Stitch and Larle!

[larlemucker]

Sorry to hear of your loss stitch

First feed here which is a lot earlier than the last few nights. Baby larle woke up screaming, think it was hunger and a dirty nappy.

Walked up the big hill on the way back from breast feeding support group today, legs are aching now!!!

Seems quiet on here, is it too early?!!

stitch what do you do now if you don't mind me asking?

[Babybeesmama]

First feed since 10 here but he's been up inbetween ! DH convinced me to have another glass of wine with our friends and I have the worst headache now! Note to self - no more than 2!! Yak!
Really hope he sleeps now!

Stitch - sorry to hear about mil xxx

[StitchAteMySleep]

Second feed here.

Not much atm larle. I am a SAHM for the foreseeable future. Before that I worked with special needs children and then in primary schools teaching maths and ks2.

Oh no Amey, the dreaded wine headache! Drink lots of water.

[MrsNPattz]

Second feed here - little man has been talking to himself in his cot for ages as though it's morning time, not a good sign!!

Yak Amey - lots of water!!

It is quiet again, hopefully lots of sleeping babies!

I'm cold tonight, gro egg is still yellow though.

[larlemucker]

MrsN our groegg was yellow the other night but I was freezing! Had to turn radiator back up.

Baby larle always has hands like ice even if his core is warm, any other LOs like that?

Our time STTN seems to have come to an end! It was nice while it lasted!

stitch I'm well jel(!!) that your a SAHM, I'd love to or just do a couple of days a week when I go back but just can't afford it!

[Babybeesmama]

The headache is still here and the night has not gone particularly well! I'm hoping this Is not wake up time although I have a feeling once he finishes this bottle he's going to poo!

Think I'm putting DH on full night duty tonight, I need sleep! And all I want for Mother's Day is sleep! X

[Smallgreenone]

Me too amey all I want is sleep! We were up at 5.30 and baby small has now gone back to bed.
Sorry to hear of your loss stitch, very sad.
I'm having my Mother's Day treat today- a massage at the spa. You get wrapped up in some sort of delicious smell and then massaged and then they leave you to...........sleep! Hoorah hoorah so I shall have some sleep even if its not at night!

[Babybeesmama]

Enjoy small! I still have headache! How can I have a hangover when I didn't even feel particularly drunk?

I think we need to get tough with some sleep training :( after being so good at self settling for naps etc baby bee has decided that since having a cold he wants to be held and rocked again, then screams on stealth transfer. All he wants to do at night is co-sleep! I want my bed back! Has anyone seen the recent thread on cc? The OP got flamed but jeez it worked for her pretty quick! X

[MrsNPattz]

Monkey was up for an hour at 4, then we slept until 8:40. He had a chew on my apple earlier, he loved it! So cute

Hubby is out tonight so a quiet night here. What chick flicks did you watch Larle? I fancy watching one later.

My friend is coming at lunch time and we are going for a walk, hubby is out late afternoon so the company will be nice.

[Smallgreenone]

Just read it Amey- eek! I don't want to do it but if baby small is no longer feeding at night and no longer hungry and still waking I will do it. I'm currently weaning him off his middle of the night feed but will probably keep the dream feed until he's taking proper meals. So far we're on 5oz bottles at his 2am feed and I reduce an oz every 4 nights, its working ok so far- he used to have 7oz so the missing 2 haven't made him wake any earlier. He then doesn't get fed again until 7- even if he wakes earlier he isn't actually hungry he's just awake and up. He goes to bed at 6.30 so I can't expect him to sleep much past 6 anyway. If I can get him to do 11pm until 6am I will be happy with that for now and he's done it before so I know he can do it!

[GoatBongosAnonymous]

amey I am with you on the sleep training. The last two nights were so awful I don't have a choice. It's not the crying, but the hurtling round the cot... And if he sleeps with me he kicks me. In his sleep. Saw that thread. Afraid we are going to try something similar - although wont be controlled crying, more like controlled acrobatics

[Babybeesmama]

I think people gave her a lot of abuse bless her, but at the end of the day if you know they are not in pain/hungry but are just tired then how else are you meant to teach them to self settle? Ssh pat worked great for us but now he's older he thrashes around & doesn't want me to hold him on his side. I think a few nights of some cc can't hurt as much as everyone in the household being constantly tired & crabby!

I think we are having a definate super energetic leap today - he's like holding an eel, he will not hold still at all! He's absolutely crazy! If he sits on my knee he throws himself to the side then onto tummy and squirms off exploding anything he can find!

We got our ikea highchair back of SIL yesterday, I got an inflatable insert for it to support him, he loves it & looks really grown up! X

[larlemucker]

I think cc is ok with an older baby, for example baby larle is 10 weeks and I wouldn't dream of doing it with him at the moment. At the same time it's whatever works for you! I have to admit I get really fed up with people telling me how to parent (is that a verb?) eg: baby larle was grissling in the garden centre the other week and an old lady stopped me and started commenting on how he was hungry, no he wasn't he was only half awake and grissling in his sleep.

Sorry for the vent.

MrsN I watched one day and just go with it. One day was really good, would recommend it

[funchum8am]

small sounds like you have exactly the same nights as us. Fine 7-2, bottle then just awake on and off til morning but not hungry . Last night was rubbish but we shared it so feeling ok.

cc did teach babyfunch to self settle and she naps and goes to bed beautifully, but self settling ability is no use if they feel rested and want to start the day at 2am!

[Smallgreenone]

He self settles after 2 but then wakes somewhere between 5 and 6 and the nearer 6 it is the less likely he is to go back to sleep . some days though he sleeps until nearly 7. That's on a good night- on a bad night he's up every hour. He hasn't poo'd for two days now so expect he will be up tonight with tummy trouble. I'm trying to give him water with his food to make him less constipated but he doesn't drink a lot. He eats lots of fruit and has wholemeal bread for extra fibre, not sure what else I can do. Hv says its normal whilst their bodies get used to solids but I feel so sorry for him when he's struggling. Sorry for yuk poo chat!

[MissingMyMarbles]

I haven't read the other thread, but I do think you have to live with your own decisions and its naff all to do with anyone else how you choose to parent. Everyone has an opinion, which is fine, but why they (strangers especially) feel the need to share uninvited is beyond me! I think cc can work for an older baby too, don't think I can do it though. That said, Missmarbles cried last night quite a lot, but in short bursts and each time I got out of bed she'd stopped. Bit frustrating but I think she was just making a racket in her sleep.

Bed time feed now. Hoping for loooong stretches.......

[Smallgreenone]

larle agree cc for older babies only. All the advice I've had has been for over 6 months but some say 8 months. Basically no one really knows but tiny ones is definitely not good as they need their mums.

[EeyoresGloomyPlace]

I saw the cc thread, it made me a bit frustrated as the OP got a flaming, albeit predictably, but in her post had explained he reasons, methods and even said she was previously quite anti cc. People just never read the OP properly, or they just see a topic they like to rant about and pile in. I don't like the thought of babies being left to cry, but cc is not the same as CIO and there are times when nothing you do is working and you're at the end of your tether. Also, what marbles said, its naff all to do with anyone else!

daddyfunch sorry to hear of your swimming palaver. Had a similar episode when a fantastic friend of mine offered to go hugely out of her way to take dd1 to her swimming lesson just after babylump was born and I wasn't able to go. She took extended lunch break and everything only to get there and be evicted after 5 minutes because someone had done a poo in the pool!

funch your posting confusion gave me a laugh :) I wonder how many couples are on MN.

goat at controlled acrobatics!

Hope tomorrow isn't too painful for you all stitch and larle

susie it sounds like exciting times ahead for you! I'd love to change jobs, mine bores the pants off me but I'm scared of so many "what ifs" that I don't know if I ever will. In my head once we've moved and DCs are at school that's my time to start looking at options. Good luck with it, being a teacher sounds hard but very rewarding.

We've got a quiet day planned tomorrow, just DH, me and the DDs which will be nice but strange as I'm used to it being a nice busy day, but as this is MIL's first Mother's Day in Cornwall and my DM is going to visit my sister in rehab we will probably just go to the park and hopefully swimming. After I've had a lie in of course!

Can I have extra helpings of sleepy dust tonight please? Last few nights have been tough.

Night all xx

[Susieloo]

Extra sleepy dust coming your way heff

Agree totally marbles that how you parent is up to you and that's pretty much it really! Re current job I'm going to be ridiculously mysterious - there is a whole policy on commenting on social networking sites and although I have never posted anything controversial or anything that I wouldn't say in real life I've seen too many people disciplined or sacked so I just don't say anything that identifies my role or work at all really!!

We had a very odd night because dp went up to bed before me and managed to lock me in the conservatory where we spend our evenings, he's so used to locking the door because he is normally last out he just did it automatically, I didn't have my phone so was trying to use the talk back function on the baby monitor but still no sign of him so I had to bang on the door for 20 minutes-he eventually came and let me out and as we were going to bed he thought he heard one of our neighbours asking if I was alright so I went round today to apologise and they had got out of bed and come round to check we were ok and managed to get into our garden to see if they could help me escape-but I had just been let out-I was mortified that I woke them up but I honestly thought I was going to be stuck there all night and dp would have turned the hearing off when he went to bed so it would have been freezing!

Hope everyone has good nights-I am back on duty so see you in the small hours.

[MrsNPattz]

Evening all, doing bedtime on my own here. Little man was asleep but decided it was just a nap and woke up half an hour later. So now I'm rocking, watching TV lol he's watching the telly too though - not exactly the idea

Larle I have seen one day - did you cry? I sobbed my heart out but I was pregnant at the time! I just watched the first Lightfields I had recorded, but I think I'm going to save the second until it's light and I'm not on my own

I bought I Sage accounting course from Groupon today I thought it might help when (not if lol) I'm a WW leader!

[Babybeesmama]

Small - one of my friends babies suffers a bit with constipation - she gives him prune juice - says it works better than the medication gp gave them! Might be worth a try!

I can't even describe our night wakings because they are so frequent & there's no pattern . I'm trying infant gaviscon tonight (had some from when DD had reflux, I'm just intrested to see if it helps at all as it seems to me he must wake for a reason. Hopefully it won't cause constipation too badly (but ill try the prune juice too!).

I've felt rough as all day I must be getting old & be a lightweights!

Scattering sleepy dust... Especially heffs way... And upstairs to babybee's cot!!! X

[StitchAteMySleep]

I did my own thing with dd1, didn't read any books or take any advice. She was around 14 months old, I don't know if it would work before they are old enough to understand 'lie down and 'bed time' which would be around 9 months old I reckon. Before that I did feed or cuddle to sleep.

This is what I did.

Formed a sleep association by feeding her to sleep whilst playing her musical seahorse and with her cuddling her jellycat bunny. Once she started getting drowsy I would take her off the boob and put her in her cot. I would switch on the seahorse and give her the bunny to cuddle. Then I would sit by the side rubbing her back or holding her hand, not talking and I would close my eyes and pretend to be asleep. If she got up I would say "bed time, lie down" and put her back down as many times as it took. If she played up a lot I would leave the room for a minute then come back and say "if you lie down, mummy will stay". If she lay down I would stay, if not leave and repeat. Eventually she would lie down and go to sleep. Then once she got used to that I then moved incrementally nearer the door every day or so until I was sitting by the door, then outside it.

[GoatBongosAnonymous]

The first part of our night is always fine, it's from about midnight that things hot up. I think Kid is like babyfunch and thinks that he has had enough sleep at this point thank you very much, and the day should start. Cosleeping no longer works because he is such a Houdini now that no amount of barrier erection works to contain him. So the cot it must be, and persuading him that he needs to sleep until at least 6! I don't intend to leave him any length of time prancing around his cot like Donner and Blitzen, I am always scared that he will do himself damage. But I will settle him there rather than bringing him in with me. Bring on Ewan!
I sense not much sleep happening tonight...

[MrsNPattz]

Yey he's asleep, put him down awake about half an hour ago, put Ewan and the projector on and he is speaking away, then starts whinging and the projector goes off so I go to the loo ready to get him out - and he falls asleep!!