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Now here's an article that's going to settle the breast v. bottle debate once and for all...

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emkana · 25/04/2006 12:25

\link{http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/health_medical/article360047.ece\or maybe not}

I particularly like the paragraph about the German nutritionist Wink. Now that bit has totally convinced me that the benefits of b/feeding are being exaggerated. [snort]

Honestly, what a piece of cr*p.

OP posts:
HBECK · 29/04/2006 23:20

maybe so - i do feel quite strongly about breastfeeding as you can tell - i just dont understand why people give formula no newborns. can anyone shed any light? didnt mean to be abrupt had a few glasses of red - sorry

Greensleeves · 29/04/2006 23:21

probably a good idea to read a few of the many threads on the subject. There are lots of people with different views on the subject. Try doing a search on "formula" or "breast-feeding" :)

Caligula · 29/04/2006 23:32

I'm probably not the best person to answer that, never having done it myself or seen the need to do it. But there are certain major reasons I'm aware of and other people who know more about it may add to:

  1. Child is ill and cannot breastfeed
  1. Mother dislikes the idea because she has grown up in a society which promotes the idea of the breast as a sexual organ or a feeding mechanism, not both. Is psychologically forced to choose and knows/ hopes that in the real world, her breasts will function as sexual organs far longer than as feeding machines. (Well, we can all live in hope. Wink)
  1. Mother dislikes the idea because has imbibed the idea that breastfeeding is something de-sexualised, unattractive hippy women do.
  1. Mother has no idea of the differences between breast milk and formula. Has a vague idea that breast is best, but has osmosed the idea that formula milk is near as dammit and breastmilk isn't really necessary unless you live in the third world.
  1. Erm....

don't know. But perhaps there are cases where mothers would try breastfeeding if given encouragement, support and "permission" but is given none so doesn't pursue the idea.

I don't think you can criticise mothers who have just been through the most agonising and emotional experience of their lives, for being vulnerable enough to succumb to all the negative messages their culture has surrounded them with from the day they came out of their own mothers' wombs.

tiktok · 30/04/2006 10:06

Hmmmm....HBECK's very SHOUTY intolerance rather undermines the arguments of those of us who say mumsnet posters don't criticise people for using formula, doesn't it?

HBECK - I think it's more sensitive and polite to keep your arguments unpersonal. There are many reasons why women choose not to breastfeed, and many reasons why they switch.

No one ever chose to breastfeed because someone yelled at them or because they were told their behaviour was sickening.

Read the threads, think, and then think again....please.

Angeliz · 30/04/2006 10:12

Oh my God.
Haven't got into any debates recently (thought i'd learnt my lesson) but just flicked on here to see HBECK's ridiculous statements.

You judgemental Saint!

I have 2 and another on the way all bottle fed, i will not entertain your tiny judging brain on the whys and wherefors as basically i can't be arsed, it's none of your buisness and i don't like you. But 3....on FORMULA..gasp what a BITCH i must be!
Quick call social services, and if you saw them you'd HHONESTLY think they were normal and their Mam gave a shit!

Are you a neame changer by the way? Very v=brave if so!

Angeliz · 30/04/2006 10:15

Just reread your post. I must say you really sicken me! Don't care if i'm deleted either.
You sound so stuck up and judgemental, i sicken you! Beleive me the feeling is mutual.

Angry
Angeliz · 30/04/2006 10:26

My posts btw are solely to HBECKS and i realsie that 99% of posters are not 'having a go' at bottlefeeders. I am not hung up on it, haven't even replied on one for ages but skimmed and saw her posts.
(But she had had a drink bless her so that's o.k. DO hope her children were looked after when she was intoxicated though otherwise surely she shouldn't have bothered having them!)

HunKeRMunKeR · 30/04/2006 10:28

Angeliz, please please don't take her seriously - I think she's either a troll trying to get a rise out of people or just very, very stupid.

Either way not worthy of headspace, so don't give it her.

Angeliz · 30/04/2006 10:30

Cheers Hunker, am stepping away now. Am totally calm now actually just saw red a moment ago.
Can't bear holier than thou attitudes.

HunKeRMunKeR · 30/04/2006 10:31

Glad to hear it Smile Enjoy the rest of the Bank Holiday!

Angeliz · 30/04/2006 10:31

You tooSmile+

HBECK · 30/04/2006 20:59

You are very defensive angeliz - riddled with guilt? well no i am not a saint by any means but just cant understand why women wo are able to give the very first milk dont do it? breastfeeding is not for everyone - i understand that but the first feed of their life isnt much is it? babies are born to be breastfed - a newborn baby will actually crawl up its mothers chest and look for the breast within minutes of a natural birth - it wouldn't crawl to asda looking for a bottle now would it?
and why would i change my name?

GreenSleeves · 30/04/2006 21:02

You're not a very nice person though, are you HBECK?

chipmonkey · 30/04/2006 21:02

HBECK, don't you think you've said enough now?

chipmonkey · 30/04/2006 21:03

Would you be so vociferous to a formula-feeding Mum in RL?

snafu · 30/04/2006 21:12

HBECK, you're being offensive and ignorant. May I politely suggest that you stop before you make yourself look even more unpleasant than you already have?

Angeliz · 30/04/2006 21:22

Riddled with guilt.
PMSL. No i work bloody hard all day every day to have happy kids. I didn't breastfeed but i'm a great Mother.
You on the other hand may have breastfed but doesn't neccessarily make you a very nice person does it?
Think your posts speak for themselves really.
You pissed me off earlier but i couldn't give a hoot at the minute. You are quite sad to try and wind people up this way. I bet my LIFE you would never say this to the face of a Mum feeding a newborn with a bottle but it's easy to hide behind a screen isn't it?
You appear to be new that's why i asked if you had changed your name. People who hold firm beleifs but not quite firm enough to jepordise their popularity on here often change their names to shitstir.

JoolsToo · 30/04/2006 21:26

well ladies shall we welcome our new member to mumsnet?

she's a beauty ain't she?

busybusybee · 30/04/2006 21:27

HBECK - It is interesting that you say you havent changed your name, yet as HBECK you have only posted on MN 4 times, 3 of which on this thread

I think breast is best too but there is no reason to be so rude Angry

Why not accept that we all have different opinions and experiences....

Angeliz · 30/04/2006 21:29

JoolsToo, nice idea but do you think she'll stick around with that name?
I think not!

lockets · 30/04/2006 21:32

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

HunKeRMunKeR · 30/04/2006 21:34

Oh, it came back, did it? Shame.

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