It WAS very childish of me, but I got a dig in at some Formula companies today......

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Got sent a market research survey today asking me my opinions on formula milk.

So i gave them.....

Repeat ad nauseam?! OMG, you are joking right! And these threads, along with their equally predictable posters Moondog and tiktok are not repetitive?! Do me a favour!

If you want to discuss it among yourselves, patting each other on the back without contradiction from anyone, perhaps MSN would be suitable? Then at least the rest of us could be spared the smug and condescending nature of your conversation.

And what exactly is wrong with posting that ff children are healthy and happy? Perhaps you'd prefer if someone posted that they'd just been diagnosed with cancer, then you could really go to town with the finger wagging?

sazhig - quite agree about what you said about infant health. It does seem rather strange that a "health" visitor knows nothing about one of the most important things in a baby's life: the method of feeding !

I don't know what they teach HV's these days I can only comment from personal experience which is that they don't know much about bf. My own HV is absolutely hopeless and so are most of my friends'. I stopped seeing mine after the 6 week check, that's nearly 2 years ago !

Boring you? Tough shit.

I agree.

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BB - I would be a millionaire if I got paid every time one of my friends told me the story of how a a HV or MW or GP had said that they should supplement with formula as baby is not gaining. No questions aked about frequency of bf, positioning and latch, etc, etc...

My favourite one is a locum GP (a male in his 70's I think ) nearly falling off his chair when I said I was bf my toddler, he immediatley said, "I hope you are giving him some PROPER food too"

KK and what is so annoying is that vulnerable wome take what these undereducated people say and believe it.

Moondog - quite ! Misinformation is the order of the day !

I think Mercy's very sad experience speaks volumes.
It's easy to forget how clueless one is as a first time mother.
I half expected my baby to be born with a
'Property of Gwynedd Hospital' stamped on her bottom.
It's amazing how bullshitters are able to operate with ample amounts of confidence and bluster.

That's is why I think in this country and in other countries with a poor bf rate, bf has become an "enpowerment" issue. Women need to become enpowered to take charge of their baby's health (and their own health) very early on and not get pushed around by inexperienced health profs.

No, we don't want our baby's bottom stamped like bits of mutton !!

Moondog totally agree because I received the same pants information (just didnt realise it at the time) :-)

Fio, just a thought; if you think the thread is boring why read it (genuine question as I only read and track threads I find interesting) It's a shame some feel a need to snipe and leave quite aggressive messages because I personally think the thread contains quite a lot of useful info. If something is THAT emotive for a person that reading something fact based can create such high feeling, I think they need to look at why. I know I did :)

the breastfeeding brigade are at it again
making us feel inadequate as usual

GDG - I hope you might think about withdrawing your 'cancer' quote.

It's just nasty, tasteless, and out of keeping with your own plea for people to be sensitive to the feelings of others.

I believe it is possible for authors to remove their own posts.

I would love formula companies to be able to advertise more. I want to know what they have to say about their products. I would also love them to have promotions so that I could buy it cheap. All you rampant breast feeders are doing is stopping me knowing more and saving a bit of money.

Oh, all that should be in the past tense as (shock horror) my kids are all over 3 yrs and I don't breast feed them still. Do you think I ought to start now?

imagine an adult child swinging off ya binlids

Yafta and Desparte - you both sound like you might be interested in re-lactating ? It is possible !

Yafta - "Do you think I ought to start now?"
What is the point of that question? No one thinks you "ought" to do anything except what you think is right for you and your children.

DesperateScouse - who "makes" you feel inadequate? And how?

hmmm no way

The point of the question was it was a joke! Wrong thread for a joke, perhaps !

Ah, yes, there is a global conspiracy by the breastfeeding fundamentalists/fascists to get formula fed toddlers on to the boob !

Honestly, even fascist like me have better things to do with their lives

Caligula the bf brigade make me feel inadequate
sick of hearing the same old stuff tbh

I tried it with first 2 children (longest was 3 days) and didnt like it and didnt have enough milk.
I was supported too by midwives but it bloody hurt me.

If you bf good luck and made up for you
If you bottlefeed good luck and made up for you

we all have our kids best interests at heart no matter how we feed them

Desparate - only you yourselves make yourselves feel inadequate.

Most of the bf women here have been very very polite (bar some well-deserved sarcasm from myself and Moondog !!) and offered advice to those who wanted it by providing scientific info. and links to good websites.

What is the problem ?