How to stay awake during night feeds part 4 - Food porn a plenty

[HorridHeffalumpsWickedWoozles]

A brand spanking new thread for midnight ramblings, chocolate covered pretzels and so much more

[MadamGazelleIsMyMum]

Feeling like a very bad mummy. DS last fed between 12 and 1am. He's 10 days old. He (not unreasonably) woke at 3.30am looking for a feed. I got confused and thought we only went back to bed at 3am, so stuck a dummy in his mouth and went back to sleep. When he woke me again at 4.45am I realised my mistake and DS has just drained both my boobs super fast.

[funchum8am]

I use grobags, is that the same as a wadded sleeper? So glad you are getting some rest goat.

I am delighted as babyfunch is up for only the second feed of the night. Result! Plus DH is downstairs getting some of the milk stash out so he can do her next feed before work so will be taking over in a bit. (she took 1.5oz off him via bottle yesterday so we are making progress!)

doodle glad weigh in went well, it is. reassuring isn't it? The sleeping does get better and you find ways to cope...hang in there.

[missingmymarbles]

I also have stinging eyes with tiredness. Missmarbles went to bed at 7.30 and fed at midnight, 3.20 and now so hopefully back on track for normality. Hopefully she will go down for another couple if hours now too. DD1 is sick though, and so despite doing better with DD2 I have still been up most of the night Hate her being sick, love her need of mummy

[HorridHeffalumpsWickedWoozles]

Morning, looks like a mix of good and bad for people last night. I can never seem to manage actually posting at night, iPhone keypad far too small for sleepy eyes.

We got sleep from midnight to 5am and have been trying to resettle since then with little progress. Dd1 will be up soon so I expect I can kiss sleep goodbye for tonight. On a more positive note I finally have my dentist appt today, hooray!

We had a horrible day yesterday :( spent going back & forth from NHS walk in centra to a&e, home and back to a&e. DD1 hurt her arm by pulling away from me while she was holding my hand in town, it was horrible I felt it go and she was in so much pain :( luckily there is an NHS walk in clinic in the shopping centre so we ran there and got seen quite quickly but they had to put it in a sling and send us to a&e, who then said nothing broken go home it will heal but once home it got worse and looked more like her elbow than her wrist as we'd first thought and DM said it looked dislocated so we had to bundle both girls back in car and back to a&e where eventually got seen again this time by a wonderful doctor who was fantastic with dd and said yes its a pulled elbow which she popped back in (the worst bit by far, poor dd1 yelled the place down :( ) then within ten minutes she was amazingly back to normal and finally using her arm. Really that the first doc didn't notice what was wrong, it would have saved hours of pain for her but very relieved it was eventually easily fixed. Exhausting day but unfortunately nobody told babylump that means she's meant to let me have a lie in!

[HorridHeffalumpsWickedWoozles]

marbles I know what you mean about need of mummy :) When we were back at the hospital last night the lovely dr was trying to distract DD while examining her arm and she asked her if she had lots if friends, DD said "yes lots" then dr said what's your best friend's name and dd said "mummy" ...I could have cried! I'm such a softy when it comes to the DDs

[funchum8am]

Oh heff you poor thing, and poor dd1! How rubbish of the first doctor not to spot the problem. I am shocked at that. Really glad to hear she is ok now.

Babyfunch has takwn half an ounce from DH with bottle then for distressed so it has been back to mummy for bf. When will she take a bottle properly?? I have her booked in with a childminder for the morning on Friday 23rd for another KIT day, so I have til then to sort it!

[NervousAt20]

Oh heff your poor DD! Glad she's better now though and it was fixed easily

Third feed here so not to bad of a night, still conpleteky shattered though. How long does it take you all to feed/change/settle your babies AF night after each feed?

[Goatbongosanonymous]

Morning all.
Well the delicious magic of the sleeper lasted until the usual witching hour of 4 am. Since we had fed at 2:30 I thought we might be on course to avoid it, but no such luck. 4 on the dot and aid is awake, screaming the house down. A bit of massage helped the wind (thanks whoever recommended the google videos!), a bit of skin to skin calmed him down, then I am afraid I went against all advice and put him to sleep on his front. Instant and blessed silence...
But susie I hadn't thought of the long term consequences! does this mean that when his first girlfriend sees what he sleeps in, I might be responsible for the break up of a beautiful relationship??

heff that sounds really awful and traumatic for both of you. Unfortunately I am not surprised that this particular A&E was useless at first (can you tell we have first hand experience) but I am so glad that the second doctor noticed and sorted it out. Hope both of you are now recovering from the experience! And that babylump does her bit and lets you sleep too.

Lovely to see you again minipopsmum and evil although that you are not having good nights. Interesting minipop about the nervous system being why the babies are so loud while asleep - I wonder why they are quiet if sleeping in kangaroo care? A different kind of sleep, maybe?

Next episode of replying in a while - Kid is asleep again so might try for a bit longer. My sympathies for all the pumping!

Oh, and for those wondering what the sleeper is:
wadded sleeper
Not sure why it is advertised for boys? are bears inherently boy-like? Or is it the red stripes?...

[Smicha]

We've had a reasonable night, a 4 hour sleep followed by two 2 hour stints...however I had to let ds sleep on me to get that... goat I think sleeping on mum might be a habit that would cause more embarrassment in front of a girlfriend than a onesie

heff that sounds awful. Poor dd! Pleased she is fixed but what appalling treatment from the a&e dept.

We had a pretty rubbish day yesterday leaving me exhausted, although compared to poor heff it was nothing. Ds cried all day and we can't work out why He doesn't look very happy again today. I miss my smiley, content little man! Nothing would calm him for longer than a few minutes, even his beloved boob was rejected many times and a trip out in the car resulted in screaming as soon as the engine stopped, rather than a sleeping baby in his car seat as we usually get. I really hope it was a blip and I'm not in line for the same today while on my own.

[Susieloo]

heff what a traumatic day for you, hope you can have a restful day today and hope dd is feeling better.

They do do the sleepers for girls too and at goat and our poor boys forever being single because they have to sleep in onesies. Love the fact that kid and babyloo have the same suit.

Right breakfast time. Happy Mondays everyone

[Izzybuzzybuzzybees]

Well we had a pretty good night. That's baby buzzy feeding again and I managed not to decamp to couch. Feeds hurting more now but will hopefully manage breastfeeding group later today. DH carried baby down stairs for me but had went back up for "a sneaky wee half hour" he's the one thats had more sleep than me already!! Haven't moaned as he will let me lie down later, while he plays x box!

[Susieloo]

nervous babyloo is quite an efficient feeder so it takes anything between 20 and 40 minutes to change, feed and put him back down.

[MrsNPattz]

Oh heff you poor thing - glad DD1 is ok now and I hope you managed to get some sleep!

Up for the day here and hubby is off so it's lovely off to Tesco and to see SIL today. Speak later xx

[Ameybee]

Ah poor DD1 heff, I'm really suprised first dr missed it as Is classic mechanism for pulled elbow! Would've been the first thing I'd thought! Hope she is ok anyway. I'm currently being a dairy cow sat expressing, hoping a bottle might help him settle in evening. Anyone else used the medela calma specifically for breast milk? We tried it a few weeks ago n he took 1oz. I just find it difficult to figure out feed times as he cluster feeds so much in evening so there's no set 'last feed' its difficult. Only annoying thing with medela stuff is that you can't put it in electric sterilser! Got some of their sterilsing bags which are much better! X

[funchum8am]

amey I have a medel

[funchum8am]

amey I have a medela pump and a calma teat and bottle but babyfunch has rejected it so far. I also have some avent bottles and she will take a small amount from that (only half an ounce) though did once take 2oz last week. Might try the calms again sometime. I will give it a couple of weeks then try a new brand of bottle and see if that works.

[MrsNPattz]

Hi guys. Hope you are all well.

Question - how long do you plan to sleep in the same room as your little one? My SIL made me too embarrassed to say I plan on sleeping in the same room as him until he is 6 months, she was saying I should go back to my own room now! But I am more uptight than her and want to stick to the guidelines, so I realise every one is different. It's surprising how easily people can make you feel guilty, wrong, silly etc when you are sleep deprived new mum heh!

[TeaandHobnobs]

DS is still in our room at 28 weeks. I think DH would like him to go into his own room now, but I don't feel ready

At the moment he is still waking up so much anyway that it would really piss me off having to climb out of bed 4 times a night to go see to him / feed him, rather than at the moment just having to sit up in bed and pick him up. I know some would say he might sleep better in his own room, which might be true, but I'm not sure he will (I don't think his wakings are due to being disturbed by me, I think he is waking of his own accord)

I'd be willing to try it for a couple of nights to see how it goes, but ideally I'd like to wait a bit longer. He will grow out of his crib in the not too distant future anyway, and when he does he will have to go in the other room, as we don't have space for anything larger in our room.

Everyone I know seems to have already moved their babies into their own room ages ago (and I think nearly all of them are ff), or are happy to continue co-sleeping, or at least room-sharing, for the foreseeable future.

Dilemma (sorry, that's no help at all, is it?! Just that I'm having the same issue...)

[MrsNPattz]

I think it's definitely down to the individual hey tea, and I just need to stop worrying about what other people think! Sounds like you are fine to wait until he outgrows his crib! I sleep in the nursery with him so even when he is in his cot (which will be soon!) I can still sleep in the same room as him.

[MummyV18]

I think we moved baby J into his cot at about 17 weeks. (He's now 21 weeks old)

We both wanted to keep him in our room until he was 6 months but he was getting a bit squashed in his Moses basket (cot wont fit in our room) health visitor advised he might sleep better in cot.

It was hard at first and I was sad that my little boy was no longer by the side of me but it feels ok now.

He's only just started sleeping a bit better though this last week. I suppose it took a bit of adjustment for us all.

Do what feels right for you x

[MiniPopsMum2012]

Oh no Horrid hope your DD1 is still feeling ok now, what a nightmare. And OUCH! :(

Nervous It takes me 20 mins to feed MiniPop and then I have to keep him upright for 30 mins after each feed (reflux), by which time he's gone back to sleep.

Goat I think the Kangeroo care makes then so quiet because the sound of your heartbeat and the warmth/smell of your skin calms them so much, I was told it helped regulate baby's heartbeat as well as temperature (I read this in the Bliss bumph too)

Thanks for the wadded sleeper info, I have a sleepsac but might stick one of these on Xmas Amazon wishlist :)

Smicha how old is your little one now?

MRsN We've already moved MiniPop to his own room, he was too noisy for ours and plus he seemed to sleep much much better when we weren't in the room, he's been doing fine and the room is right next to ours so I can still hear if there's a problem, trouble is MiniPop has just discovered his voice, so I can also hear him chatting and giggling to himself when he wakes up early. BUt definitely a personal decision.

We moved him because he was sleeping on me more than in his cot when me and DP came to bed, so I didn't want it becomming a habit

Tea How's the teeth doing? Yours and BabyTea :)

Hello everyone new that I've missed.

[MummyV18]

I think my Ewan might be faulty

I'm going to try changing the batteries tomorrow but it keeps doing odd things like the music leg cuts out but the light stays on or the music & light cut out bit the heart beat stays on.

[HorridHeffalumpsWickedWoozles]

mrsn DD1 stayed in our room until 5.5 month when I could no longer squish her into her Moses basket. DD2 sleeps in her Phil & Teds cocoon at the moment but I put it next to us in her Troll bedside crib and when she outgrows it she will still be able to sleep in the crib itself I'm hoping until 6 months. I don't want to rush it partly because night feeds are so much easier if they're next to you, partly because I feel reassured when I can see and hear her snuffling away at night and partly just because I love having her there, if I could fit DD1 in our bed and mange to get any sleep while she hogs the entire bed I'd have her with us most nights too!

nervous babylump takes about 10 minutes a side, I think she's quite efficient but then she's a big girl so I guess she's got to be!

So I went to the dentist today, she said I've got a bitmg cavity that reaches down to the nerve, then she said I have to come back next week for a filling. Next week I'll never survive! :(

DD1 is all back to normal today, I'm wondering if its worth me writing to complain but don't know if it would even reach the right people. My DM works in another local hospital so i might ask her if she can help.

Hope you've all had good days and are on the way to good nights :)

[daisychain76]

Thanks for the sleeper link goat. Made me realise someone has given us one. as a present but l had shoved it to one side thinking it was some sort of odd snowsuit . Newborn size is huge on baby D anyway ~ he?s only 5 pound 8) so l?ve ordered a gro swaddle to try til he?s bigger.

nervous we are usually up an hour a time ~ largely cos it tends to involve at least 2 nappy changes.

mrsn l. have had each dc in with me for nearly a year. May be longer this time as we don?t actually have a bedroom for him!

[MummyV18]

Not sure if we're in for a rough night. Baby j has woken 3 times already since going to bed at 7.30

I think it's his tummy or wind. He's brought up a tiny bit of wind & sick but nothing other than that so not sure.