How to stay awake during night feeds part 4 - Food porn a plenty

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My sympathy ladies, I have similar issues. Cluster feeding last night from 7 til 9:30, then feed at 00:30 then up again at 3:30. He wil only take 10 mins at night, but now feeding again as he snuffled so much he was keeping us both awake,, desperate to get him down successfully this time as yesterday DS1 got up at 04:50. Here's hoping we don't have a repeat of that!!

In my experience people often wildly exaggerate how good their babies are because they think it's a sign of being a good parent. They also very quickly forget how the actually behaved when tiny once they are older!!

Up again. He's just given me the most adorable enormous grin had 4 minutes of boob and is now asleep again. He's so annoying but so cute and lovely! I really struggled to go back to sleep after the last feed hope I do better this time. Am already mentally cancelling tomorrows plans and thinking of having a pyjama day..............again!!

Transfer fail

Thanks for the reassurance ladies, its just so hard isn't it! Even as a second time mum I feel like I don't have a clue most of the time! Sometimes I wonder whether he's waking because he is hungry or for another reason because when he woke at 3 he barely had 2 sucks but I was too knackered to bother with nappy change etc n he's since gone till now which makes me think he didn't really need it??? He's falling asleep as we speak but at this time I'd say we'll have a transfer fail like you small :( x

340 and 540 tonight...... we'll be having duvet day too small!

Fail! Same again - on boob - fall asleep instantly!!! And last time he did that thing where they drag your nipple as they fall asleep which kills!! X

I'm playing nappy roulette now (as someone called it earlier in thread) and think it was a bad idea as now he's awake but not really feeding!! DH is in with DD as she was screaming at 3am so its not even like I can really hand him over yet! God I feel crap. Going to have a teary day like yest I can feel it already :( x

Awake here after feeding 9wk old. Whole thing took an hour and i eventually had to swaddle him but I am now wide awake...
We just got one of those nespresso coffee makers and while i only drink it in the morning (2 cups), i have that caffeine alertness now - is that in my head?

Awake again! I've not fed him this time just picked him up and say down and he's asleep already. So he is waking up for cuddles........can't say I blame him I like a cuddle too but just maybe not at twenty past 6 when we've been up three times already. How am I going to explain this to him or do I enjoy it because one day he won't want to cuddle his mummy and be all snuggly and cute.

I've just watched last years John lewis ad with the little boy who can't wait to give his mum and dad his presents its so cute and now I'm teary- emotional sleep deprived wreck that I am! Now going to sit and cuddle baby small for as long as he likes because I'm all soppy!

We're up now, babylump woke at just gone 5, fed, puked had to be changed into clean clothes and is now laid on my lap cooing away as if butter wouldn't melt! Only got to bed at half 1 and I was relying on having a lie in as she usually sleeps til about 9 in the morning and we don't have to be up until half 9 today, fat chance of that now! I've had 4 hours in total and I'm feeling it :(

Oh amey sending you hugs and plenty of chocolate to get you through the day. I know what you mean, I feel that as a second time mum I should be better at this but most days I still feel like I'm a bit of a fraud and I don't really know what I'm doing at all. I think perhaps its the sleep deprivation messing with our heads.

Sympathies to everyone feeling like theirs is the only non sleeping baby, I agree that often other people seem to gloss over their babies bad sleep in a bid to sound like better parents which always amazes me as by doing that they are losing out on any support they might otherwise have got. Definitely though all babies are different, DD1 was terrible when she was tiny, honestly barely slept at all some nights, but DD2 is much much better and although I'm still feeling sleep deprived I'm not wobbling on the edge of insanity like I was first time round! Also, it gets better, DD1 is a fantastic sleeper (usually!) now so the endless nights do eventually end :)

Everyone wakes periodically through the night as they come to the end of a sleep cycle. Unless something happens to bring you to full alertness, e.g. hearing a noise, an adult will go back to sleep and not remember being awake. A baby may not know how to get back to sleep by themselves so will be dependent on you to cuddle / feed / rock / soothe them back to sleep. The million dollar question is how do you teach them to self-settle? Putting them to bed when they are drowsy but still awake works in theory but ain't so good in practice when you're tired and just want sleep yourself.

Morning ladies! I feel like a bit of a fraud posting here as we had another ok night again - fed at 4, then back to sleep until 8. I'm really sorry some of you are struggling! I so hope it picks up for you - I'm sure it will. I'm not taking my good nights for granted - I know it could change anytime.

We are off to my mum's work and my dad's work today!

Speak later xx

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I wish I'd read this thread last night when I was sobbing to DH that I must be doing something wrong, that other people's babies all had a routine and slept in their cots and didn't cry.

We are joining the worst night ever club Amey loup & funch. DS just screamed and screamed. I thought we had made progress since the Infacol but he seemed distraught. It was awful. Started with an epic transfer fail and carried on from there. We had one sleep of a couple of hrs 3-5 and that was it. Yet like Amey he kept falling asleep on the breast (and dragging, ouch) so he was clearly shattered too. It's so frustrating when you want to help them but don't know how and like Stunt said they don't know how to do it themselves.

Small I know exactly what you mean about not wanting to wish the time away, they are so lovely and small but it is so debilitating.

Oh blonder hope you get to have some rest or a quiet day today? It's so all consuming, I had grand ideas of LO being in fabulous routine and sleeping so I could get things done. Typically I woke up at 830 and DD is merrily snoozing away having last fed at 540.... So she can do 4 hours.... Any thoughts as to whether I leave her as enjoy the peace or wake her up to start getting day milk into her.... think I'm erring on leave her so I can shower and enjoy the peace!

MrsN you're not a fraud, you're reminding us that it will get better. My DS1 had colic and is hyperactive so getting him to sleep was a trial for the first few months weeks but now it's getting him up in the morning that's the problem!

Now I've had a second mug of tea and breakfast, bath and hair wash I can say I feel more human again. Baby buttons was back to mega loud truffle pig noises from 3 til 5 this morning at which point we gave up and he laid on DH chest and fell asleep straight away!!! Even more irritating as last night was the first night in a week where DH and I slept in the same bed! With the rationality of daylight we think he might have been cold!

Anyway, trying to have a chilled out morning, need to express now as leaving baby for 1.5 hours to go to Ds1 nativity. Fingers crossed he'll take it in a bottle! Oh well, he won't starve in 90 mins!

Enjoy the duvet days - nap if you can!

So sorry to hear there are others suffering too! Babyfunch seems a lot better after sleeping on me and then DM for a few hours. Ironically I had the best sleep I have had in ages from 4 as DH took her out in the car til 6 and then DM had her 8-10am. So it all seems a bit better now. Chin up ladies!

Thank you ladies. Sorry not to name check but its too brain taxing on such little sleep!

I was wondering about the whole not rocking/feeding to sleep but I'm not sure he's old enough at 9 weeks to sleep train? I also have difficulty of not being able to let him cry (which I'm not keen on anyway) as will wake DD and during day I can't be running upstairs during naps when DD downstairs.

I was thinking of trying pick up put down at 3 months old. Generally he feeds/rocked to sleep at mo x

Thanks stunt!

Sending lots of hugs to funch, blonder, two, small and everyone else struggling!

mrsn I kept thinking last night your LO had slept through with not seeing u post on here!! Hope your good nights continue and that they spread this way! X

I think 9 weeks is probably too small to sleep train amey I think most sleep training starts at 6 months- I've researched it already!!! I asked hv today and she suggested that I don't pick baby small up (when he's waking straight after a feed) but just pat him until he goes back to sleep. She said if he cries though to pick him up and settle him but put him back down- think its a bit like pick up put down method- he's 3 months. I'm going to try it as I know he isn't hungry as last night he was back to sleep before I'd even got my boob out for him! It's worth a go but I don't hold out much hope and think I might still be on this forum in 3 months time! I could cope if it was a one off but it's every night and my energy is zapped.

He didn't amey he woke at 4 but my eyes were sore so I didn't post! I have regular problems with my eyes and I think they are flaring up again! Stay strong! xx

amey I agree with small too young for sleep training but not too young to start having a consistent bed time routine - feed, bath, feed on darkened room in an attempt to get baby off to sleep. I started this from 6 weeks with DS1. It does take time, but eventually you will be able to put baby down awake! To start with rocking and anything else required to settle baby is fine! I am starting to think about this for baby buttons but struggling with how with two! Good luck, baby steps !