How to stay awake during night feeds part 3 - wishing for sleepy dust

[TeaandHobnobs]

Welcome all to a shiny new thread for moral support during night feeds, general food envy and chit chat

We are up again too. I also am desperate to drop one night feed. We are going about 1 hour 20 to 2 hrs from the start of one feed to the start of the next which I am finding very hard going. I know she CAN sleep for longer since she often has during the day. She just falls asleep too easily during night feeds and even when I change her, tickle her etc it just doesn't wake her for more than a few sucks.

goat I would love to see Kid doing his aerobics. It sounds hilarious (though clearly not to you....)

funch I'll send him round!

We're up too so he wasn't listening when I asked him not to get up until morning! I honestly don't know how much longer I can do this. I need my sleep back!! I'm going to try him on formula tomorrow night and see if he'll go longer between feeds. Then if he does he can be breastfed by day and formula fed by night. Will that work? In my head it works perfectly!

small I'm afraid that formula is no guarantee of a good night's sleep... Kid will tell you that!

Forgot to say, minipop that I am sending you heaps of recovery vibes for LO. What a worry this must have been for you. Hope you yourself are getting some rest. (and of course some lovely eats, as befits this thread!)

small I am tempted by the formula option from time to time but am worried that my milk supply might suffer. Will do some more research! I have expressed some milk so dh can feed her and give me a lie in on Saturday morning. However I don't have chance to express more than about 2oz, do half a feed, each day because she is always feeding, or about to feed! I need my sleep back too :( I know how you feel!

I'm shattered here too, really struggling to get up and stay up with this feed. BabyN has feed for 5 min and so far refusing more but has done the biggest poop ever so hoping napoy change will wake her up for more food otherwise I haven't got a hope in hell of her going 2 hours to he next one if I don't get more sleep then I'm refusing to do house work today and I'm going to mong on the sofa all day

I have that fear to funch. I would probably still get up once a night and express maybe but at least it wouldn't be three times like it has been lately. Unfortunately I think sometimes he is waking not because he is hungry but because he just wants a cuddle and formula won't help me with that. He's awake again now and it's just a snuggle he wants as has gone straight back to sleep. I might go over to the sleep board and see if there are any helpful threads. I don't want to cosleep because I don't get any sleep as worry about squashing him too much.

Hiya, sorry cant remember who said what but I strongly believe in the 4 month sleep regression it started with us bang on 16wks and baby J is now 20wks. We didn't know what it was until we did a ton of research on how to get him to sleep & found loads of stuff in it.
I believe there isn't a set duration for it from what I've read u just have to ride it out the best u can but its touture.
Baby J has just had 2 good nights in.a row so I have my fingers crossed we have come to the end

Also have a look into something called wonder weeks as I'm starting to think this might be true - there is an app for it & a book

Re the formula thing - I have had to give baby j a bottle of 'top up' formula from birth as he was becoming dehydrated after the 1st night home. Since then I have combination fed to my advantage (eg only used formula on days out, if guests were coming round etc)
I only have ever given baby 1 or 2 bottles in a day (3 on rare occasions)
I was once told by bf support worker that breast milk production is best at night so have never substituted those feeds.
So having told you that long story.... My supply seems to be ok (at 20wks) although I do worry its reducing. Maybe the odd bottle for you might just be a nice rest. You give it a test, either feed LO formula at last feed and see if he goes longer or have some ready made formula to hand so DP can give you a break occasionally during the night.

Everyone is different though, so do what is best for you, your body & your family x

Sorry that should say ... You could give it a test lol
It just a suggestion, not an order lol

Small - one of my friends has a baby who refused to sleep unless on her & suggested she try a troll bedside cot - she couldn't afford one so just took side off hers and pushed it up to their bed & she text me last night saying it worked! Think we might try it if the side comes off cot! So kind of like co sleeping but not dangerous! There's another cot called a baby bay that's the same principle xx

Well I had a bit of sleep, maybe an hour! Last night was hard and holey nipple hasn't helped!

Baby buzzy feeding just now. My sore breast is painful and I don't know whether to just not feed on that side and express but its hassle. Scared to feed on it tho!

Cheers small, I do think that if I could be guaranteed that supply would be ok, I would combination feed. But I only want it for nights so if I shouldn't replace those feeds then there isn't as much benefit. Hmm. I will see how DH gets on tomorrow when he does the early morning shift with a bottle of breast milk and how much I can express in the next few days.

I have been cosleeping on mornings when DH gets up early so I can feed lying down and today DH got up at 4 so when she woke at 5 I got her into bed and got a bit more sleep thank god!

izzy I hope holey boob gets better soon!

Morning all - up for the day here. Am hoping to get to the 10 o'clock baby sensory but not sure we will be ready in time!

Another mix of nights here - hope you all get some rest today.

Well I made it to the 10 o'clock class but it was the wrong bloody one! The younger babies class is at 11:15, so I stayed for a little while to see what goes on and then will go to the right class next week. Felt like an idiot lol but it wasn't explained very well in the email. So a day on the sofa for us now with choc pretzels speak later xx

Thanks for all the reassurances on the 4 mth sleep regression. We were up another 2 times after I posted before morning essentially making it a 2 hourly (give or take) night.

Babyloo and Missmarbles are in cahoots again. I would love for her to have dropped one feed when I was only doing two. Based on last night, she needs to drop 4 feeds to go down to only being up once.

Never mind; it will come. She's singing beautifully to me now

MrsN, we do baby sensory on a Friday too. Our class is just after lunch which isn't always the best time, as it's nap time for lots of the babies, but it's a lovely class, and we always really enjoy it. I persuaded DH to come today, "you won't be the only dad" I told him, coz he wouldn't have been normally, but he was today !!!

Have a good evening. See you all later

Babyloo has had a grand total of 2 hours sleep today and by ten past six was so crabby that I bought him up to bed and he had a five minute feed and then conked out. He also feels a bit hot to me but not sure if this is as a result of his jabs yesterday. He slept from 3 last night until 7.35 (the five is important) and poor dp overslept because he's so used to me waking him up at 7 with a cup of tea that he didn't bother to set his alarm. Not sure if the lack of sleep today will work in my favour or not. Have good nights everyone, see you in the small hours

Currently sat with a pump on my boob! We go to stay with my family in 2 weeks, and me and hubby are hoping to go for a Chinese on our own so want to make sure he will take a bottle by then. I feel a bit sad about him having a bottle, almost jealous? How ridiculous does that sound? And I also keep thinking what if he doesn't want boob after having a bottle?? Sorry for sounding silly, but this is really the only place I can offload

I think I know what you mean. It's like the 1st part of them not needing you anymore.

I'm sure LO will still want boob after bottle, its warmer & more comforting

MrsN, I know exactly what you mean about the bottle. I posted a few days ago, along similar lines, regarding a bottle, but you articulated it better than me. I am trying to express every day and give Missmarbles a bottle every day, so we can have an evening, child-free date now and then. Training is going, umm, variably. She did well today; so much better when someone other than me gives the bottle.

I felt exactly the same mrsn when babyloo tried his first bottle, I felt really rejected!! It gets easier though and now I just think of it as exciting for him that he is trying something new so it does get easier. My own experience has been that he will, well has, taken a bottle but still prefers breast feeding. I do wish that he would take a bottle now sometimes just so it isn't all me all of the time. Strange business this baby lark!!!

Glad to hear I'm not going crazy! And that it gets easier - I'm wanting to do it every day too marbles. It's such a faff though isn't it! Formula feeding must be hard work with all the sterilising!

Yes, Susie, sometimes I do wish the bottle was more straight forward with her, so it's not all me, but i think I would be quite gutted if it was that easy She still prefers me though

The sterilising is one of the reasons that I breastfeed rather than formula, because I am obviously a lazy toad completely aside from the nutritional benefit to the baby, Mrsn

I was really excited when babyfunch first took a bottle....I am so keen for her not to be wholly dependent on me for food lazy mum that I am. She feeds soooo much it hadn't really occurred to me that she might actually go off bfing to be honest. She had only properly had a bottle once but I have been busy expressing so DH can take her out for a bit tomorrow armed with two bottles' worth of precious white nectar! I am so looking forward to some proper sleep and a leisurely shower. The things you look forward to become really modest when you have a baby don't they?!

I'm torn between desperately wanting him to sleep and considering f

Stupid phone.
Considering formula to maybe help him sleep and then loving feeding him and being his favourite person with the joy that no one can do it but me. He's just having his last feed before bed so fingers crossed he does better than recently.
He's also in his own room tonight as he's completely outgrown his Moses basket. Looks so tiny in his cot though and I miss him in our room
They grow up so fast.