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High-Need Baby Support Thread II

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tickleme63 · 22/01/2012 09:22

Hey ladies, here's a shiny new thread for us to discuss, query, whinge about and rejoice our high-need bubs!

Pretty bad night last night, bleeding exhausted. Can see why so many of you co-sleep. We haven't gone down that route, but it's never looked so attractive...

Gawd, grizzly DS. Poor tooths. Hope you have had a decent night!

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ATruthUniversallyAcknowledged · 13/03/2012 07:43

Take him. I got a telling off from GP last week for leaving it too long before I took DS

Mampig · 13/03/2012 07:55

I agree! Take him Button, babies that age can go downhill quite quickly and gps would always prefer they are seen sooner rather than later. They'll prob tell u what u already know, but it'll reassure you. Good luck

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tickleme63 · 13/03/2012 09:00

Truth It was sort of a mix of things, I think. Perseverance - I.e. letting him play with the bottle, offering it with a small amount of EBM every day or so (but never forcing the issue if he clearly wasn't in the mood) - was key. But for us, he seemed to take to a bottle after he began accepting his dummy - he likes MAM dummies and so we thought we'd try a MAM bottle as the teats are the same, and after a few goes he started accepting it from DH, and then from me (touch wood this continues as I'm back at work next week! :() We have to make sure his milk is very warm, or he isn't keen.

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ATruthUniversallyAcknowledged · 13/03/2012 09:32

We're trying every day this week in the hope he'll take one. I'd feel so much better about him starting nursery if I felt they could give him a bottle. At this rate I can imagine myself running to the nursery every lunch break to BF him!

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tickleme63 · 13/03/2012 10:20

Keeping fingers crossed for you Truth :)

Hmm. Call me crazy but I think DS's naps might be beginning to extend a little from his usual epic 30 minutes... He's gone 1.5 hours so far this morning... I have expressed and then... done nothing! Sitting here waiting for him to wake. How very sad

Of course, I have now jinxed it completely... He's just woken up!

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buttonmoon78 · 13/03/2012 11:04

Thank you drs mampig & truth! Chest infection - on antibiotics and blue inhaler til breathing gets better. Is it wrong to have enjoyed texting DH that he was wrong?

He's now asleep in his pop up travel cot as I'm trying to get him used to the mozzie net before we go to Kenya.

I've got to ring the hospital now - he is due his first food challenge tomorrow afternoon but I don't know if they'll do it if he's on antibiotics.

buttonmoon78 · 13/03/2012 12:58

DS is sitting on my lap and farting. He's then laughing at his own farts

JeewizzJen · 13/03/2012 13:18

Truth - have you tried up cup instead of a bottle? I think we'll be doing this. DS hates bottles but drinks water beautifully from a sippy cup.

SpannerPants · 13/03/2012 14:18

my DS does that too button

another vote for sippy cup/doidy cup over bottle - DS prefers to chew on the teat of a bottle but will drink out of a cup.

I took DS for his 2nd nursery visit and the first bit was fine, but then he was having a cuddle with one of the girls who works there and he saw me and burst into tears! Proper hysterical crying :( I ended up having to settle him then left the room for half an hour. He had a good play and didn't seem to notice that I'd gone, and then when I came back in he didn't even notice I was there! I keep feeling really sad about him going into nursery now, I kept bursting into tears walking round Asda for ages - he fell asleep in the sling and I wanted him to have a reasonable nap! I'm sure everyone thought I was crazy.

ATruthUniversallyAcknowledged · 13/03/2012 15:13

Loving that image of BabyButton! I hope he gets better soon. I totally empathise with you texting DH though. DS had been ill for weeks and DP kept telling me there was nothing a doctor could do and to stop mollycoddling, so felt terrible when we learnt he needed antibiotics.

We're using a doidy cup with meals at the moment and DS loves biting it, but I just don't think it has the same comfort factor as a bottle or BFing would. I'll give a sippy cup a go though because presumably it has a similar 'sucky' factor.

Bless Spanner. DS has his settling in sessions in two weeks. I am dreading them!

By the way..... serious point.... why did none of you warn me how bad poos got when babies started taking solids?! I almost threw up on DS when I discovered his first 'real' poo last night. Yuck!

SpannerPants · 13/03/2012 17:07

Oh I know, it's like proper poo! gags DS's usually smells of catfood, yuck! DP is regretting complaining so much about the EBF baby poo...

it's so much harder to change them when they're trying to roll all over the place as well!

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tickleme63 · 13/03/2012 18:27

Oh god yes, the poo. I didn't think DS was actually eating too much at all, but his poo... Dear lord... We had a proper adulty smelling/texture one the other day

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buttonmoon78 · 13/03/2012 20:43

With all the dehyration from the chest infection ds's are like little stinky boulders. At least I can tip them down the loo

Spanner you should tell your dp he's lucky your ds wasn't on formula. Now that's really stinky!

ATruthUniversallyAcknowledged · 13/03/2012 20:51

Ah, so it could be the chest infection / antiobiotics as well as the solids? I seriously didn't think DS was eating enough to have had such an impact on his poos! (Kind of reassuring that he must be eating more than I thought?!)Still, it might be a chance to go back to reusable nappies. We gave up on them because the liners couldn't cope with runny BF poo.

(Sorry for lowering the town so much!)

TitaniaP · 13/03/2012 22:44

Truth - reusable nappies are easier now there's no BF poo. Have you tried Fleece liners?

LittleWaveyLines · 13/03/2012 22:45

Actually my DD only poos in her nappies occasionally now - she starts making a "poo face" and I take her to the loo and hold her over it. Sometimes do it for wees as well - makes things a whole lot nicer!

jan2011 · 14/03/2012 08:11

not looking forward to the nappies next month (solids)! but can't wait till she takes her first mouthfuls.

had a bit of a better nights sleep last night, dd was up 3 times and went back to sleep again. think ive got a cold now and hope she doesn't have it as well. dh has been less than supportive through all of this (until i feel im about to die and breakdown then he helps out) so will be dealing with that instead today as he is off work. are all your partners really supportive or has it put a massive strain on the relationship? he is going through his own hard time which doesn't help, but he just comes across as emotionless when im struggling, which of course is the last thing you need. hopefully him having the day off will give me the chance to get a nice hot bath :)

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tickleme63 · 14/03/2012 08:23

Ladies, a very painful little bump at the base of my nip = blocked duct, doesn't it? :( I thought it was where his teeth were rubbing but I've noticed a little white dot where the worst pain is. Feeding DS on that side is bloody agony, but I have to, don't I?

Gah. Can't even carry him on that side of my chest as it hurts so bad :(

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buttonmoon78 · 14/03/2012 10:03

tickle I think lining his chin up with the blockage might work. Also combing with a wide toothed comb (or your fingers) in a hot shower or bath. When I had mastitis, it really hurt a lot to do that but it did help in the long run. So I could view it as a pain worht having IYKWIM?

jan I'm sorry you're struggling. I'm not feeling too clever myselfd but I think it's 'just' lack of sleep!

Good news though, the consultant says she'll do his milk challenge this afternoon anyway despite him being poorly. Which he is - right proper man flu poorly. He ends each coughing fit with an 'oh poor me' sigh. He's being a real man about it

And apologies for all the typos. He's sat on my lap trying to type

jan2011 · 14/03/2012 10:10

hey tickle im sorry about your nipple. i remember the days of mastitis and at the time is awful! i hope it passes very soon for you... maybe some paracetamol might ease it.

button sleep deprivation does serious things to u doesn't it. good luck with the milk challenge (wrote sleep challenge by accident first lol)

im off to get a bath and listen to some relax music - i hope all of you can get some 'me' time at some stage even if its just 15 minutes xo

buttonmoon78 · 14/03/2012 10:15

I think he needs a sleep challenge too. He seems pretty darned allergic to it at the mo

QueenKong · 14/03/2012 10:17

Hey jan - in answer to your question, I do have a moderately supportive DH but DS is still putting real strain on us. It's the lack of sleep I think mainly - we bicker constantly and it just doesn't feel like we are on the same team a lot of the time, which is silly because we both want what is best for DH and (generally) agree on parenting methods. But it's like we always try to get one up on each other - I'm the most tired, I've got a full time job, I never get a break from him etc. It's very sad and I hope we will muddle through it.

The problem is we are both very over-sensitive by nature (and the tiredness makes this worse) so we take every comment as a dig and get defensive. I wish we could work as a team more . Thing is, I don't really have enough energy left in me to sort it once I've dealt with DS...

LittleWaveyLines · 14/03/2012 10:46

Another one with the lack of sleep putting a strain on things. DP has now permanently decamped to the spare room, and I barely seem to see him, except to pass the baby over while I do something I haven't been able to do all day...

Re the competitive tiredness DP said this morning (after we'd had a little bicker) that he feels he can't say that he feels tired because he knows that I'm more tired, but he still is sometimes tired! He is very grumpy in the mornings though - and he has had a full nights' sleep! Madam here woke every hour last night, and was bright and awake before 6am, didn't sleep till gone 9pm.... arrgh!

buttonmoon78 · 14/03/2012 11:04

We had a tiredness induced bicker at 4am today. DH pulled ds over to him and then 2 mins later had a go at me for hogging all the bed! He did apologise pretty quickly though!

I find it idfficult to make time to talk to dh and the when we do I can't think what it was I wanted to say. So I've developed this techinique of writing things down for him. I can often be a little less subjective and fair to him when writing too which can helkp the down ward spirial of you never... you always... etc. And you can start to write it and add throughout the day as dcs allow!

Sorry for typos. Can't even bllame ds. He's asleep (finally). It's just nme being lazy!

jan2011 · 14/03/2012 12:17

sorry you are all going through the strains in the relationship - from what i heard its normal after having a baby, but im sure it must be worse with having such high need babies. we have the competitive tiredness thing going on too and queen like you we are always trying to get one up on each other and are also very sensitive and if we have a proper fall out it can go on for a few days. he can seem to get up and get on with things easier than me - i tend to get down about it and find it hard to get motivated until i feel supported and understood. i have to learn to treat him with love even when he does not understand or support me, and not go into my shell (silentish treatment) but this is sooo hard to do. and my dh is extremely grumpy in the mornings too, after a full nights sleep! we will get through it all.

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