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Infant feeding

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LittleWaveyLines · 16/11/2011 14:21

Does this sound like your baby?

  1. Feeds frequently daytime
  2. Feeds frequently nighttime
  3. Needs to be constantly held
  4. Wont sleep alone
  5. Hates the car seat/pram
  6. Short naps

If so - join the club! :)

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Queenkong · 25/11/2011 10:42

Fine so far. One little nip, but think that was a one off. He only has his bottom ones so far, think the test will be the top two! It's so nice being able to offer him the comfort of the boob though when he is whingey, I don't know what I'd do if I couldn't shut him up by shoving a boob in his face feed him better.

fraktious · 25/11/2011 11:19

tickle do go see someone. In hindsight I should have.

We have double trouble teething but DS was supremely well behaved for his babysitter this morning and good in the car to the shop, then sat in the trolley all the way round and was fine on the drive back! Yay! Plus we saw my friend's DH who said she had their little girl this morning so newborn snuggles tomorrow and sling tying next week.

Sleep not so much though.

buttonmoon78 · 25/11/2011 11:34

DS had a not do good evening but then only woke once at 2.30 then up at 5.45 Shock

And he's been a little angel today so far! A v pukey angel mind you. I've spoken to the paed's secretary who's going to ask about inc his domperidone dose as he's still puke puke puking everywhere all the time.

And he's full of cold again so that's nice.

tickle I'm feeling a lot better over the last few days but I was at the point not so long ago where I thought it was prob time to see the gp. I think mine wasn't helped by all the grief with all the deaths we've suffered in our combined families recently but if I even begin to feel that way again I'll be off quicker than you can blink.

Living with a HN baby is draining enough but with PND on top it won't be a bowl of cherries, but at least you can do something about the PND! Good luck x

buttonmoon78 · 25/11/2011 11:34

Not so not not do Blush

Queenkong · 25/11/2011 11:46

DS decided he wasn't happy about me putting him down to have a shower. So i've just rubbed a couple of face cleansing wipes under my pits. Am I gross?

buttonmoon78 · 25/11/2011 12:08

Nah. Just doing what needs doing Grin

Now if it extends to tomorrow... that'd be gross Wink

buttonmoon78 · 25/11/2011 12:09

Oh, and use baby wipes - much cheaper!

Mampig · 25/11/2011 12:20

Queen- I do that more than I'd ever admitGrin needs must!! I find myself showering in the eve now when dh home!

tickleme63 · 25/11/2011 13:25

Thank you all for the kind words.

I don't know if it's PND or what - when Hubby is home I feel much better, and less lost. It's worse when I'm on my own with him. I feel guilty over just about everything, from giving DS a dummy to help him sleep to not recognising his tired signs fast enough so I'm essentially overstimulating the hell out of him to making him cough and choke when my milk comes so fast... Absolutely everything. That we have no daytime routine, that I can't get him to nap for longer than half an hour in a place that isn't my lap. That I'm choosing to return to work to help us save for a house, rather than staying at home with him. For feeling so shit and my Hubby going through the same but dealing with it like a sane person. And it goes on. I just feel some days that I'm failing utterly at this.

But other times I feel more positive, so I don't know whether I am how I am because of screaming tiredness and no me time away from baby at all, or whether it is something more sinister. I certainly do not think about selfharming or hurting a hair on my angel's head, but maybe there are degrees of PND..

It doesn't help that I'm all kinds of anxious in social situations - I care too much about what others think of me, and I just feel so awkward. I'd love to conquer that more than anything so I could head out and make some new friends, but I don't know how and it feels like there's always something stopping me just trying - fear I guess.

Jesus that turned into a bit of a monologue... Sorry ladies!

jammydoger · 25/11/2011 15:06

tickleme sorry you're feeling rotten. I do hope things improve for you.

Its been a really tough week, absolutely exhausted! Having the second bout of thrush in 6 weeks and little jammy's doesn't seem to be clearing. Poor thing. Just moved her onto the Daktarin gel, fingers crossed it works quickly. In the meantime we've had a feeding strike...due to the oral thrush and a growth spurt all in the same week! Anyone with ideas on how to prevent it happening again?...I'm all ears. I've been re-washing everything in a hot wash. I'm taking a second Fluconazole tablet. And boiling dummies and bottles etc.

Hope everyone has had it easier. Smile

JeewizzJen · 25/11/2011 18:54

Evening all.

Tickle, I echo what everyone's said. Sorry you're feeling so low. Definitely good to go and see the GP. I really hope you feel more like yourself soon, its truly horrible hitting those lows.

Well, my journey was largely very successful! Timed our departure so he'd be coming up to nap time, and amazingly he slept all the way there! The way home started with a good 10 mins scream, but then he dozed off for the rest. Incredible! I think it helped that pretty much the whole route was dual carriageway or motorway. I'm really pleased though, it's given me some confidence in doing a longer journey in future if I need to.

Queenkong · 25/11/2011 19:00

Yay, really pleased for you Jen. I always feel a huge sense of relief whenever DS drops off in the car! And know exactly what you mean about timing it with nap-time, I do that every time I go to my mum's. However, his only predictable nap is the first one of the day (2hrs after he wakes up - whenever this may be). Occasionally, this has meant that I arrive there at 7:30am, when he has risen at 5!

His teeth were getting him down today so I gave him calpol for the first time. He went to bed at 6:45! It took just 30mins to get him down. A happy side effect!

Queenkong · 25/11/2011 19:08

Spoke too soon. He's now awake. Gah.

Mampig · 25/11/2011 19:23

Ds having really bad day with teeth! Bed time routine right out the windowSad. He's gonna be up with us by the looks of it!

fraktious · 25/11/2011 19:35

Sad mampig

DS has slept in half hour blocks since going down at 8.30. He will only sleep in his sling or with boob in his mouth and I don't know how the fuck to get him to settle otherwise! I can't carry on doing this forever. I won't do CC. There isn't any other choice is there SadSadSadSadSad

buttonmoon78 · 25/11/2011 20:37

The angelicness didn't last - no surprise there then. We're to up his dose of both drugs to the maximum but when I did that tonight he puked more than ever Confused

He's also on a total strike today - only had 11oz all day so far.

I'm so fed up with the screaming and puking. The only time he was happy tonight was when he was in the bath!

Ach. Enough wallowing.

LittleWaveyLines · 25/11/2011 21:18

Oh Button - sending you unMumsNetty hugs....

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tickleme63 · 25/11/2011 21:23
Mampig · 25/11/2011 21:52

Thanks Tickle!!
Frak, I've been doing sooo much reading recently on babies sleep, and it's so hard to know what to do for the best!! I also dislike cc, and have bought "no cry sleep solution" off amazon. It's a bit of a drawn out method, but very gentleSmile. It's what I've used this past couple of nights and worked well. My only concern is as ds gets older ( and rebellious) it won't work. When my ds1 was 2 we had to do cc, as we were at end of our tether with him waking and a new baby in the house- one of us was gonna crack!!! So dh put in 1 night of hard work and ds1 finally slept! Incidentally, ds got into such a temper that he threw his dummy at dh, and never asked for it again!! So we got 2 for price of 1 that night!! Now, that was 5 years ago, and I know alot more now about cc, and currently choose not to do it. That said, my ds1 is absolutely fine, still loves us, and as far as I can see, there's been no adverse effects at all x
I suppose I will keep cc in the bottom drawer for emergency purposes!!

organiccarrotcake · 25/11/2011 22:19

mampig the research into CC is that leaving them to cry in a stressful situation (ie crying alone as opposed to in-arms) releases cortisol which is a toxic stress hormone. This you know, obviously, but the point is that cortisol is something that will be released in everyone from time to time with no adverse effects, at least long term (clearly it's horrible while it's happening). So the research says that it's sustained cortisol release that's the danger. It seems that each child's tolerance is different so it's not possible to say how much is "ok" before it does cause physical problems. But it's unlikely (I mean, really, it's not going to happen is it) to be one or two nights of CC. In my opinion.

How a parent feels about doing that to their child is a different matter, and clearly something you are factoring in, and balancing with the needs of the wider family.

On the other hand, there is a no-cry sleep solution for toddlers and preschoolers if needed when the time comes :)

tickleme :( If you go to your GP and s/he suggests anti-ds you can ask for ones which are compatible with BFing. This might help www.breastfeedingnetwork.org.uk/pdfs/Antidepressants_and_Breastfeeding_March_2009.pdf.

jammydodger what treatment for thrush have you and your baby had so far? Fluconazole is only for ductal thrush (the deep breast pain) and needs to be a sustained, ongoing course. This explains it: www.breastfeedingnetwork.org.uk/pdfs/BfN_Thrush_leaflet_Feb_2009.pdf.

You do need to ensure you're not cross-contaminating the thrush. It's easily passed back and forth between you, and also passed onto your clothes and back. If possible, ideally you need to wash your bras each day at 60 and iron the back if it's ok on the fabric. Similarly your towels need the same treatment (you could use a facecloth to dry your nipples to reduce washing). Bottle teats if you use them, dummies, anything that goes in your baby's mouth need sterilising very frequently.

organiccarrotcake · 25/11/2011 22:22

wavylines I think it was you asking about crying in car seats? I was chatting to someone about it and she thought that if your baby can see you - if she's in the front seat for instance, hear you - and especially feel you if you can reach her (with the odd pat while driving) she's NOT alone and it's not the same as cc.

stopgap · 26/11/2011 03:14

I'll play ;)

My DS is three months. He hates:

The car seat
The stroller (both bassinet and toddler seat)
The Moby Wrap
The Ergo Wrap
Going longer than ninety minutes between daytime feedings
Sitting still for longer than two minutes (he prefers to "walk" on my lap, be vigorously rocked, or held high on my shoulder to get a good view of the world).
Sleeping anywhere but our bed
Waking up (this makes him scream)

He loves:

To smile and coo at Mummy and Daddy
To kick like a maniac on his activity mat
To roll over
Reading time (surprisingly sits still and becomes engrossed)
Mummy's Arms
Mummy's Boobs
Mummy's Singing
Sleeping with the Dyson vacuum on ALL NIGHT LONG
The swing

I am beyond exhausted, but happy to see he's thriving, in spite of his colicky/fussy ways.

JeewizzJen · 26/11/2011 12:54

Welcome to the party stopgap Smile

Well DS has decided that napping is for wimps today. Usually he's not a bad napper - although they are sometimes short, he generally naps every couple of hours fairly reliably. This morning however, he was up for 4 hours, followed a 45 min nap. Since that we're now up to 3 hours and no sign of him wanting to sleep despite mine and DPs best efforts. He's grumpy as hell and generally shouting and screaming a lot. Awesome.

Mampig · 26/11/2011 14:47

Oh no Jee!! Welcome Stop!! Well I'm actually in shock- total opposite to u Jee- ds just slept from 11-1.30!!!! Only for the sensor pad under his mattress I'd have been beside myself!! After a bad day yesterday, it's been great today- cannot believe that nap time though!! Unheard of with him!! My let down even came while he was sleeping- given his feed before that was at 10!!!

buttonmoon78 · 26/11/2011 17:55

Rotten day here too. DH got stroppy too so at least he knows how bad it can be.

We had to go out to get a new fridge. Have returned fridgeless as I had a total meltdown in Currys Blush

Worse still - ds was actually alseep at the time Blush

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