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I'm so sick and tired of feeling unsafe in the UK

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harietti · 09/09/2025 08:25

10 years ago I had experienced very little racism in the UK, and when I did, it was so rarely that I could put it down to one bigot being a bit of a knob. It was much easier to ignore. Today, I feel scared. I experience a racist remark from strangers at least once a month if not more, my street is littered with England flags, there is a house on my mum's street that has pictures of Tommy Robinson in the window, I've come off most social media because I can't stand the posts, my son has had racism at school (thankfully the school is incredible and has a no tolerance policy so the child was excluded immediately). I just don't know what to do anymore. It's affecting my mental health and I wish there was something I could proactively do, but there isn't. Not that will make a significant change. All I am doing at the moment is being unapologetically myself, but I still feel like shit. I was born here, and even if I weren't (like my parents), I have contributed so much to society. Worked on domestic abuse hotlines as a volunteer. Been in the charity sector earning a pittance my whole adult life because I want to help people. I feel really helpless and unwanted. Deep down I know a lot of people don't give a shit where my family are from, but equally I know a lot of people do. I'm finding myself becoming paranoid and avoiding conversation with burly white men, not because I don't want to speak to them, but because I just don't know who they are and what they believe. Often I find they are just normal people and are kind, compassionate, and I feel like an utter twat after for ever being worried. Though on two occasions recently my gut has been right, and I have been met with a racist remark, and on the other occasion, I was stonewalled. It was like I didn't exist. I am just so tired.

OP posts:
KatSlayMoon · 13/09/2025 18:43

ginasevern · 13/09/2025 18:29

@Tillow4ever "Sadly, it seems straight, white men are a bunch of arseholes - they are a threat to people of colour, to women, to gay people, etc. I know if I saw a black man and a white man walking towards me on a dark street, I would feel afraid of the white man only."

Then you'd be a fool. Your comment is not only off the mark but kind off offensive and patronising in equal measure. Any and all men have the capacity to be a danger to women. You think only white men commit sex crimes? You think gay men can't be racist or misogynistic pricks? Think again. I suggest you re-evaluate your safety strategies.

Edited

Why is her post offensive to you exactly?

LadyKenya · 13/09/2025 19:01

Gingernessy · 13/09/2025 17:06

I don't think that's true.
People are struggling. They see people turning up in boats housed and fed 3 meals a day when they're struggling to eat and keep a roof over there heads.
When people become hopeless they become irrational and easily influenced.
Saying that I'm not sure what the solution is and I'm sorry you feel unsafe and that your son has been bullied - I have always loved the vibrant mix of people and cultures we have in this country and I hope it continues.

The colour of a person's skin would have no bearing on any of this, if they were not holding racist tendencies in the first place. These people would still be struggling to eat, and keep a roof over their heads regardless, if these people were coming here, or not. There is no excuse for their racism, and it is the perfect climate that has been cultivated recently, by the Governments, and media, and other unsavoury characters, which has given these people, who would not usually be so vocal, an amplified voice, which they are choosing to use.

Tillow4ever · 13/09/2025 20:37

ginasevern · 13/09/2025 18:29

@Tillow4ever "Sadly, it seems straight, white men are a bunch of arseholes - they are a threat to people of colour, to women, to gay people, etc. I know if I saw a black man and a white man walking towards me on a dark street, I would feel afraid of the white man only."

Then you'd be a fool. Your comment is not only off the mark but kind off offensive and patronising in equal measure. Any and all men have the capacity to be a danger to women. You think only white men commit sex crimes? You think gay men can't be racist or misogynistic pricks? Think again. I suggest you re-evaluate your safety strategies.

Edited

I’m basing my threat perception based on my lived experience. Let’s see some stats:

No of white men who have raped me - 3
No of non-white men who have raped me - 0

No of white men who have sexually assaulted me - 5 significant enough to remember
No of non-white men who have sexually assaults me - 0

In terms of sexist comments etc off the scale for white men, I can’t recall any occasion where a man of colour made comments that made me feel uncomfortable.

I have witnessed countless acts of violence by white men, none by men of colour.

I’m not saying categorically it’s only ever white, straight men… but based on my lived experience in my home town I have a legitimate reason to be more afraid of a white man heading towards me than a man of colour. It may be different if I lived in a huge city, but this isn’t the case for me.

JHound · 13/09/2025 21:43

Stellaris22 · 13/09/2025 15:33

How do you feel when people on this forum equate womenface (drag) to black face?

I have not seem it here but I would assume such people are thick with zero historical knowledge.

Even the term “womanface” is stupid.

JHound · 13/09/2025 21:48

KatSlayMoon · 13/09/2025 15:53

Don’t be ridiculous. Are you seriously saying that these people need “opportunities” to stem their racism? That’s like saying men need access to women to stop them committing rape. It’s a disgusting viewpoint to have. Ethnic minorities should not have to rely on white people having enough money in their pockets to not subject them to racism. Do white people genuinely need to be bribed to not be racist then?

Also these people have opportunities. I am from a socially deprived background and got off my arse and made something of myself instead of blaming others for the outcomes of my own life choices.

JHound · 13/09/2025 21:54

TheJoyOfWriting · 13/09/2025 17:05

It doesn't help that a lot of Muslims in Rochdale & Rotherham covered up the sexual assault by the gangs. But then so did a lot of white people, including the police, some of whom also raped the victims.

But obvs most UK Muslims revile those actions.

On sharia law, it's worth noting that over 40% of UK Muslims do support 'aspects' of Sharia law being introduced, which is worrying.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=www.secularism.org.uk/news/2016/12/over-40-percent-of-uk-muslims-support-aspects-of-sharia-law&ved=2ahUKEwjp1e28jtaPAxVpW0EAHY2PGdMQFnoECCQQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3y4hIBWloCsod0wg0a7g18

NONE of that is an excuse for racism.

Why is it worrying? It already happens and is completely voluntary. Same with Christianity and Judaism.

KatSlayMoon · 13/09/2025 21:58

JHound · 13/09/2025 21:48

Also these people have opportunities. I am from a socially deprived background and got off my arse and made something of myself instead of blaming others for the outcomes of my own life choices.

Exactly. This is about thousands of lazy, useless men blaming the world for the fact that they have not been handed life on a plate. It is incel culture writ large, nothing more and nothing less. Why do so many of these men have a history of domestic violence?

It is utterly pathetic. If more of them had gotten off their arses and studied and done something worthwhile (like becoming doctors, nurses, engineers, teachers etc etc) then the UK would not need so many migrants to plug so many gaps would it? And they would have the means to not be racist apparently (which is a disgusting argument being made by some posters on this thread).

I get so sick of being expected to constantly try and understand why men like this behave the way they do. Why are they racist and sexist and violent etc etc etc? It’s because they are useless and angry at the fact the world does not want or need them. It’s that simple.

JHound · 13/09/2025 21:59

Minkton · 13/09/2025 17:53

It’s just the UK that is so unsafe! No other countries are racist!

Yawn

JHound · 13/09/2025 22:02

KatSlayMoon · 13/09/2025 17:56

“A lot of Muslims” means what exactly? Can you point to some numbers because I’d love to see what percentage of the actual population of Muslims in Rochdale and Rotherham covered this up. Where are the numbers?

And by that logic, “a lot of white people” are out today screaming racist abuse and making nazi salutes - do all white people therefore get tarred by the same brush?

And I love the faux ignorance of presenting supposition as fact and then virtue signalling that “NONE of that is an excuse for racism.” Part of the problem much?

Yes I am interested by what “a lot” means and
how this poster came by this info “a lot of Muslims” in Rochdale knew about rape gangs and covered them up.

KatSlayMoon · 13/09/2025 22:02

JHound · 13/09/2025 21:54

Why is it worrying? It already happens and is completely voluntary. Same with Christianity and Judaism.

Exactly. It’s all okay unless you are an ethnic minority. I am still waiting for that poster to give some numbers on what “A lot” means as well. And how many people in the Catholic Church covered up the paedophilia again?

JHound · 13/09/2025 22:03

Fitzcarraldo353 · 13/09/2025 17:54

You haven't been to Ireland lately

That person is not a genuine poster - I have reported them.

KatSlayMoon · 13/09/2025 22:03

JHound · 13/09/2025 22:02

Yes I am interested by what “a lot” means and
how this poster came by this info “a lot of Muslims” in Rochdale knew about rape gangs and covered them up.

Facebook probably.

BlueSkySunshineDay · 14/09/2025 08:04

Notmycircusnotmyotter · 13/09/2025 15:03

On my train into London (from a small, well off Surrey village) there were at least 40 people heading to the protest today. They were also well spoken and polite, not the drunk violent "fascists" the BBC talk about.

People have had enough of the UK taking in tens of thousands of economic migrants on boats each year and of their towns looking unrecognisable.

The awful cost of that fear and anger is UK born non white communities feeling unsettled like you do.

You should save your anger for the government - past and recent.

Jesus.

Gingernessy · 14/09/2025 09:24

BlueSkySunshineDay · 14/09/2025 08:04

Jesus.

But she's right.
When we had open boarders with the EU and many Polish people came to work and live here those in my community who moaned the most about them taking jobs and lowering pay where the Polish people who settled here after the war.
Many ethnic communities are unhappy with the numbers entering the country in boats.

LadyKenya · 14/09/2025 09:41

Many ethnic communities are unhappy with the numbers entering the country in boats.

Really? That is not what my experience has been at all. Rather the question that keeps coming up, is why have safe routes not been opened up for people coming from these Countries, so that they do not have to resort to extreme measures to escape from whatever has befallen them. The Government could make real meaningful changes, if they really wanted to. But then they need a handy, visible scapegoat for people to punch down on.

Glorit · 14/09/2025 10:40

BitOutOfPractice · 09/09/2025 09:57

Of course I challenge them. And tell them that I’m sickened! It’s always white men. Middle aged white men.

That’s not my experience at all. I hear it from people of both sexes and all ages. I am especially hearing it from those on their 20’s/early 30’s. Educated people too.

Reallynotsure25 · 14/09/2025 12:11

LadyKenya · 14/09/2025 09:41

Many ethnic communities are unhappy with the numbers entering the country in boats.

Really? That is not what my experience has been at all. Rather the question that keeps coming up, is why have safe routes not been opened up for people coming from these Countries, so that they do not have to resort to extreme measures to escape from whatever has befallen them. The Government could make real meaningful changes, if they really wanted to. But then they need a handy, visible scapegoat for people to punch down on.

This!

BlueSkySunshineDay · 14/09/2025 16:17

Gingernessy · 14/09/2025 09:24

But she's right.
When we had open boarders with the EU and many Polish people came to work and live here those in my community who moaned the most about them taking jobs and lowering pay where the Polish people who settled here after the war.
Many ethnic communities are unhappy with the numbers entering the country in boats.

Many Eastern Europeans are very racist too. I don’t agree with them either.

BollyKnickerz · 17/09/2025 00:39

ginasevern · 13/09/2025 18:29

@Tillow4ever "Sadly, it seems straight, white men are a bunch of arseholes - they are a threat to people of colour, to women, to gay people, etc. I know if I saw a black man and a white man walking towards me on a dark street, I would feel afraid of the white man only."

Then you'd be a fool. Your comment is not only off the mark but kind off offensive and patronising in equal measure. Any and all men have the capacity to be a danger to women. You think only white men commit sex crimes? You think gay men can't be racist or misogynistic pricks? Think again. I suggest you re-evaluate your safety strategies.

Edited

Don't worry: she was just virtue signalling.

So desperate for a pat on the back : it couldn't have been anymore saccharine and vomit inducing. I feel embarrassed for her. I think blackmumsnetters see through a disingenuous virtue signal though, thankfully.

If white people are going to comment: at least make a useful contribution Instead of getting your big nasty words out to slag off white British men to fall over yourself to prove just how "unracist" you are. It's so transparent and disingenuous.

GreyBeeplus3 · 17/12/2025 18:52

Yes the sort who know that if fungalfarage et al were picking out people to be got rid of, it'd probably never happen to them
They are their own arrogant clique

GreyBeeplus3 · 17/12/2025 18:56

That's true and don't forget the ignorance of any russian
Who assumes that 'white-passing' equals superiority!
And more to the point will tell you to your face
A subtle race they're not

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