Common racist comments you hear in 2023?

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Compared to 30 years ago, how is racism different today?

For me, racism terms such as the n word p word are less used than they were 30 years ago. However, people have looked at other avenues. See comments below.

1. "You have a chip over your shoulder" every time someone mentions racism or their lived experience it goes straight to denial mode. You are blamed for your lived experiences and told to get over it and how UK is not racist.

2. "The UK abolished slavery. slavery was a long time ago." Every time someone tries to put forward a view of reparations of people who are still suffering from the effects of slavery they are shut down. "that was a long time ago we have changed and evolved."

3. "I feel like a foreigner in my own country." Which is probably one of the most stupid statements considering that over 80 percent of the population is white. I always answer if you feel like a foreigner how do minorities feel?

4. "name the racists" commonly said for Megan Markle that she should name the racists she claimed in the Royal family. But lets be honest if you did that the other person in whatever circumstance would just deny it and ultimately you will not be believed and be called someone who plays the race card and tarnishing other people's careers.

5. "Why do black people have their own spaces if white people had it we would be accused of racism" This is commonly said by the same people who are not as vocal when other groups have their own space e.g. women, LGBT groups etc.. It just seems like whenever black people have their own space people have to put them down. Take Ngozi Fulani the media made it seem she was the bad person people argued why her charity helps black people suffering from domestic abuse. Sad how she was forced out Sistah Space due to the abuse she faced but the media never mention that and the racism she had to face.

6. "Racism exists in all communities" this is another common one used and is a whataboutery technique. We have seen this with people like Kanye, KSI recently but what people forget there was a lot of criticism from the black community with their actions. So to suggest the black community or any other community does not do anything about racism is for the birds.

7. "My best friend is black" This is something you would hear from the EDL or Britain First. But you would be surprised how often you hear this by a lot of people. Just because your friend or relative is black, Muslim, Asian etc does not mean you cannot be racist. Even if you are a white mother and your child is mixed race does not mean you cannot be racist. It is baffling how a lot of people seem to forget this and think that my saying I cannot be racist because of this automatically means they cannot.

I have a very tricky surname and honestly I appreciate it when people genuinely at least try to pronounce it

Where do you live op?
I have never heard people say these things in real life.
I'm sorry you experience this.

I’m the same way except when the mood strikes to attempt a lightbulb moment. I thought you were quite heroic in your patience as I know exactly which poster you mean. Every post they wrote was a complete waste of space at best and racist tropes at worst. I reported a few of their posts but haven’t gone back to see if any were deleted.

They’ve been told but refuse to listen to what Karen means even though we coined the term and it has a long documented history. But now that the white feminists have appropriated it and declared it to be pure misogyny and nothing to do with the racism of white women, they are literally attempting to Karen away Karens.

Can you elaborate? Thanks

There isn't a competition for who is the most insulted you know.

And could you tell that to the Mumsnetters who still use terms like "race card" but then get worked up about how misogynistic "Karen" is?

You really really need to learn to listen.
And as you seem to think yourself so clever, go away and research why your views are being called out.

Karen away Karen's

I wish I had though to use that expression yesterday. What always saddens me is that these people are often educators, mangers, healthcare professionals.

I know, right. The scary thing is that they often present as upstanding members of the community rather than the stereotypical ones with no influence.

I don’t have firsthand experience of the racism you’re talking about due to being white. However, I can understand what you’re talking about by thinking about how some men don’t believe that covert misogyny and sexism exist.

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That's why I said if it is pronounced exactly as it looks she has no excuse.

I think it is more difficult with a language that has sounds that your own language doesn't, you can write it down phonetically but it won't necessarily sound right in their language although it sounds the same to us because we don't have that sound but I'm sure they appreciate the effort.

Jealousy that she has never been referred to as one 😂 that’s the issue!

I actually have no issue with people asking me what my ethnicity is at all.

As discussed with other staff in the staff room the other day. At work in rural Somerset the favourites seem to be
"Coloureds"
Where are you from...I'm from London....no where are you really from.
I'm not prejudiced but.....

I agree, it wont be exactly the same but it will be a reasonable approximation.

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Expresses great surprise at the size and location of my house. Still incredulous, proceeds to interrogate me on the ethnicity of my road...

Apparently if was I born in the days of slavery I would definitely have been shot...

I don’t have firsthand experience of the racism you’re talking about due to being white. However, I can understand what you’re talking about by thinking about how some men don’t believe that covert misogyny and sexism exist.

I can absolutely understand that@Greenable . But you would hope that people would listen, and take on board what is being said, not try to shut people down, and deny people's lived experiences. Thousands, and thousands of people across the Globe were not marching for BLM for the fun of it.

The reality is that there are bigots out there, there's a (hopefully small) percentage of people that seem to think it's still 1945 and good ole Blighty just won the war, all changes since on a society front are negative (well except the much better housing, connectivity etc they love that). Please remember most of us are not like that, I genuinely couldn't care less whether you are very dark, mid, far east or blue with pink spots (local lady to me, very keen on ink!) we are all humans, we all are the same. I hate racism because it's so stupid! (And wrong of course)

I get what you mean about the lightbulb moment. I have learnt by being on MN for a few years though not to give too much energy, and time when posters say certain things/ phrases. I will never forget the threads about Trayvon Martin on here. I went off MN for quite a while after that. Some of the posts were so brutal. I could not believe that so many people could be so unkind, and have no sympathy whatsoever for what happened to him. I was thinking that some of these people are actually raising children, they could be teachers, doctors, etc. It was horrible. I am just ignoring the MM threads at the moment for example.

I agree with you @LadyKenya I think maybe there’s something wrong with the British education system. They need to get students doing some kind of class that gets them to think about lived experiences that aren’t their own or human existence generally. I don’t know what. Philosophy maybe.

I agree that it is about education@Greenable . There were discussions a while ago if I remember correctly about decolonising the curriculum, and yet it was met with derision from people, such as Kemi Badenoch. Yet Dawn Butler explained quite plainly, why it is important what the children are taught.

Thanks for that @LadyKenya . A warning that Kemi would was involved would have been nice. I find her views on issues of race deeply problematic and what followed did not disappoint. How the eloquent Dawn Butler retained her composure, I do not know.

Sure thing, sorry about the lack of warning!@Socrateswasrightaboutvoting 😄