Common racist comments you hear in 2023?

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Compared to 30 years ago, how is racism different today?

For me, racism terms such as the n word p word are less used than they were 30 years ago. However, people have looked at other avenues. See comments below.

1. "You have a chip over your shoulder" every time someone mentions racism or their lived experience it goes straight to denial mode. You are blamed for your lived experiences and told to get over it and how UK is not racist.

2. "The UK abolished slavery. slavery was a long time ago." Every time someone tries to put forward a view of reparations of people who are still suffering from the effects of slavery they are shut down. "that was a long time ago we have changed and evolved."

3. "I feel like a foreigner in my own country." Which is probably one of the most stupid statements considering that over 80 percent of the population is white. I always answer if you feel like a foreigner how do minorities feel?

4. "name the racists" commonly said for Megan Markle that she should name the racists she claimed in the Royal family. But lets be honest if you did that the other person in whatever circumstance would just deny it and ultimately you will not be believed and be called someone who plays the race card and tarnishing other people's careers.

5. "Why do black people have their own spaces if white people had it we would be accused of racism" This is commonly said by the same people who are not as vocal when other groups have their own space e.g. women, LGBT groups etc.. It just seems like whenever black people have their own space people have to put them down. Take Ngozi Fulani the media made it seem she was the bad person people argued why her charity helps black people suffering from domestic abuse. Sad how she was forced out Sistah Space due to the abuse she faced but the media never mention that and the racism she had to face.

6. "Racism exists in all communities" this is another common one used and is a whataboutery technique. We have seen this with people like Kanye, KSI recently but what people forget there was a lot of criticism from the black community with their actions. So to suggest the black community or any other community does not do anything about racism is for the birds.

7. "My best friend is black" This is something you would hear from the EDL or Britain First. But you would be surprised how often you hear this by a lot of people. Just because your friend or relative is black, Muslim, Asian etc does not mean you cannot be racist. Even if you are a white mother and your child is mixed race does not mean you cannot be racist. It is baffling how a lot of people seem to forget this and think that my saying I cannot be racist because of this automatically means they cannot.

Yes in really life and even more so online. We are not allowed to discuss other threads on here. We are not allowed to discuss other threads see the polite and recently had white fragility result in a caution from the feds (would never happen in real life) a polite warning from MN remind us of that. But I see you and I hear you. Somethings are as clear as day, no matter how the naysayers (and women from other ethnic groups who could be an ally but chose to align themselves with non allies) try to twist it. Must be lovely to live a world where when it comes to racism the worst thing that can happen is that you are called a racist or an enabler or racists.

Yes, my hair dried fairly quickley@Socrateswasrightaboutvoting . That is because it is very fine. I have even less density now, that I have got older😞

Thats should say dried.

I hear you. Mine is definitely less dense, I wear it natural so volume disguises at it but I no longer have the comforting resistance that I had on top, when I tap it. My mum and DSis have 4 C it makes a lovely afro puff. I loved seeing Dame Floella's at the coronation.

Lots of times in the past on here I have taken the time to explain xyz, and then the disingenuous poster would come back with abc, and it would go on. It took me a while to understand that there are some really unpleasant people out there who do not care about the suffering of black, and brown people, and are more than willing to add to it. I am more aware of the difference now, going by the tone, and words used. Like anything else it is all a learning process, I just took things in good faith, and believed more or less what was posted. Trust me being on here has opened my eyes to how horrible, and racist some people are. And I agree with you about the total lack of understanding with some women about low level racism (microaggressions) . Saying that I cannot go a day without reading some low level racism, or other on here, so I guess that would explain it.

I love seeing women with lovely afro puffs@Socrateswasrightaboutvoting . There is so much to appreciate with all the lovely different textures. A few years ago I attended a few black hair shows in London. I was in Heaven, looking around at all these beautiful black, and brown women all wearing their hair proudly whatever style they were sporting.

And the amazing Dame Floella was the first black woman I really remember taking notice of on tv, with her gorgeous braids with the beads on the ends.😃

Give over! It's clearly a reduction of "Chinese takeaway". For Heaven's sakes!

I loved those beads! I used to have a beaded fringe! I love when how creative black women can be with their hair. I wear mine long but becase the shrinkage is so extreme apart from a couple of experiment in my late teens I have been too risk adverse to experiment much. I used to love going to my hairdresser, which was almost a full day experience - a rites of passage for any black girl! Braids, perms, relaxers and everything in between and so many personalities!

@HadalyEve
Thank you! Yes I agree especially if the products are from the US.

The Irish slave myth is 100% racist and has its origins in the USA before spreading over the Atlantic.

Irish historian, Liam Hogan has done a lot of work challenging it and put lots together to help everyone smash it:

https://limerick1914.medium.com/all-of-my-work-on-the-irish-slaves-meme-2015-16-4965e445802a

Yes but are the descendants of those slaves still actively discriminated against?

Yes, if they are women (especially middle aged to elderly) and/or disabled.

The learning disabled especially are discriminated against, ime in the NHS or in connection with DNARs. The tacit attitude often is that NHS resources are wasted on them.

Black women can be middle to elderly and/or disabled. They will still be black first, in the eyes of the world. So your example really just whataboutery.

Black women can be middle to elderly and/or disabled. They will still be black first, in the eyes of the world. So your example really just whataboutery.

No, the question was do the descendants of Irish or Arab slaves suffer discriminationn? The answer is yes. You are just playing top trumps.

Top Trumps... You are crackers

Maybe I didn't phrase my original comment too well. What I meant was are they still actively discriminated against as a consequence of their ancestors being enslaved?

I find it very hard to believe that a white person whose ancestor was enslaved by say, the Ottomans, suffers the same discrimination and racism as someone whose ancestor was a victim of the transatlantic slave trade. So saying "the romans had slaves too" or "the Irish were enslaved" is a false equivalence.

One of my favourites from Akala

Akala on Britain's inherent xenophobia - Frankie Boyle's Election Autopsy 2015 - Bing video

I must be tireder than I thought. I actually started a post explaining why there's no such thing as racism against white people, that racism is structural, that racism and prejudice are not the same thing and then I just thought fuck it. I can't do it again.

Sad to say, a point I recognise very well.

The answer is NO because the Irish were NOT slaves. People conflate indentured servitude with chattel slavery which is another way of attempting to deny the slave experience of black people.

Also, prejudice is not the same thing as racism. To consider them the same is false equivalence which is a logical fallacy.

I so agree with all of this! I have now realised that engaging is not worth the toll it takes nor should I give that sort of content to a forum that allows it.

I do not blame you. Why keep explaining for some random only to come along and poo poo it anyway! Save your energy.

@HadalyEve And the word that crossed the sea was also Spanish - pequenos ninos (small children) which became pickaninnies in the US and pickins in West African pidgin.

Oh, I did not know that! Thank you.

so how can they not connect the dots between that and understanding racism does not mean someone calling you the n-word or throwing a banana at you in the street.

Because they don’t want to understand and some are quite content treating us as if we’re inferior to them and even deserve such treatment. It’s easier for some to believe we’re inferior because it’s better us than them.

I read a brilliant article (I wish I could remember where it was!) about the whole of America basically doing #7 en masse: we can’t be a racist country because we elected a black president. Australia did the same with misogyny when they elected a woman as president. I guess the uk (or at least the Tory party) is the same in that respect.

It always has been. It boggles my mind why so many people in the UK choose to compare themselves to the US when they’re comparing themselves to a country not only way younger but with more than 5x as many people, completely different governments and laws and culture. How many white PMs were there before there was a woman or minority PM? More than there have been US presidents and the US still had a minority before the UK despite being younger. It took about 50 before there was a female PM. Former President Barack Obama was the 44th President, Rishi was the 56th Prime Minister.