Common racist comments you hear in 2023?

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Compared to 30 years ago, how is racism different today?

For me, racism terms such as the n word p word are less used than they were 30 years ago. However, people have looked at other avenues. See comments below.

1. "You have a chip over your shoulder" every time someone mentions racism or their lived experience it goes straight to denial mode. You are blamed for your lived experiences and told to get over it and how UK is not racist.

2. "The UK abolished slavery. slavery was a long time ago." Every time someone tries to put forward a view of reparations of people who are still suffering from the effects of slavery they are shut down. "that was a long time ago we have changed and evolved."

3. "I feel like a foreigner in my own country." Which is probably one of the most stupid statements considering that over 80 percent of the population is white. I always answer if you feel like a foreigner how do minorities feel?

4. "name the racists" commonly said for Megan Markle that she should name the racists she claimed in the Royal family. But lets be honest if you did that the other person in whatever circumstance would just deny it and ultimately you will not be believed and be called someone who plays the race card and tarnishing other people's careers.

5. "Why do black people have their own spaces if white people had it we would be accused of racism" This is commonly said by the same people who are not as vocal when other groups have their own space e.g. women, LGBT groups etc.. It just seems like whenever black people have their own space people have to put them down. Take Ngozi Fulani the media made it seem she was the bad person people argued why her charity helps black people suffering from domestic abuse. Sad how she was forced out Sistah Space due to the abuse she faced but the media never mention that and the racism she had to face.

6. "Racism exists in all communities" this is another common one used and is a whataboutery technique. We have seen this with people like Kanye, KSI recently but what people forget there was a lot of criticism from the black community with their actions. So to suggest the black community or any other community does not do anything about racism is for the birds.

7. "My best friend is black" This is something you would hear from the EDL or Britain First. But you would be surprised how often you hear this by a lot of people. Just because your friend or relative is black, Muslim, Asian etc does not mean you cannot be racist. Even if you are a white mother and your child is mixed race does not mean you cannot be racist. It is baffling how a lot of people seem to forget this and think that my saying I cannot be racist because of this automatically means they cannot.

I should have photographed it but walked to the Co-op for the usual top up food shop this morning and they had put up a full window advert for Fair Trade Fruit that was a black person’s hand holding a big yellow banana.

I felt uncomfortable seeing it and then felt like I shouldn’t be uncomfortable, and pushed down my feelings. Perhaps that is the racism Stockholm syndrome in action?

I know. It's madness. What about the booby trap? I am glad we swerved that... The "I have been biting my lip..." one Nice try, Karen.

Fragility in Karen clothing...

"You don't have to be black, to be stupid", is another response to "racist!"

I know. It's been one heck of a ride 😆

I've been wondering why 'Black' people are called as such. I was very confused when I first came to this country and heard the term because my ancestors are not black.. they're brown? I'm mixed race (south asian , native south african , among other things).

Darkness associated with evil seems to be a thing in many cultures, not just 'white' (again, whatever that is)

Historically, it comes from the trans-Atlantic slave trade. The Spanish started it before the British and supplied the British colonies before the British started their own trading. The Spanish called the African slaves “Negros” (male plural) or “Negras” (female plural). The word Negro/Negra literally is the word for the colour black in Spanish. It dehumanised we people to simply “Blacks” in their language, but when British slave traders and owners were ordering slaves for their plantations they’d order a number of “Negros” (Blacks). And so it stuck and is little changed although it’s now made less offensive by being “Black people”. I agree it’s all silly though as Black people can be light sand to dark brown just like White people can be pale as milk to dark brown too.

Is there something in the air today? Apparently it's somehow problematic to post in Black Mumsnetters to ask where you can go, nearby, so that your children can see other children who look like them, if you live in an area that is not very diverse.

Yeah they come out every now and again.

After they have been politely told to FO they need to be ignored.

The entitlement, as usual, was staggering.

Its mind blowing too how it’s problematic for us, but not for them to want to have their children when “expats abroad” to have friends that look like them and speak their language- on a thread yesterday an OP was going to ask an “international school” to start racism awareness classes so that her PWBs would have exactly that. So entitled.

I despair. The more things change the more they stay the same. I do love the term 'expat', although it doesnt give off the same warm and fuzzy feeling 'immigrant' does. Never been able to put my finger on why...

Oh yes, we have connections to another European country, they hate being known as immigrants which is what they are of course....

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I'm getting on a bit so things might have changed but I always thought "expats" were people living in another country for a defined period of time, normally job related. Immigrants were people who were living permanently in a country other than the country where they were born. Maybe it was a 60s thing but I certainly remember people going to working in the US or somewhere in europe being expats whereas people seeking a whole new life in Australia or South Africa (popular destinations at the time) were migrants here and presumably immigrants when they got there.

The permanent new life didn't always work out, I knew a couple of families who set off for a new life in Australia and one in South Africa and they were back 2 or 3 years later.

Of course the 60s were long ago and meanings of words do change.

That may have been the original understanding. Now only a select group are 'worthy' of the term 'expat'.

@Lndnmummy Leave them to their poison, they do not deserve any more of your time. They are not worthy.

I wondered if it had changed, back in the 60s I knew a few people who went to Aus/South Africa and some who were working abroad. I know someone who was living in a typical (of the time) expat country but she was married to someone from the country and was very definitely excluded from the expat community (marrying a brown man made her unwelcome I suppose.)

Watching £10 Poms at the moment as it brings back memories of the things the people who returned told me, particularly the racism.

My contemporaries are a bit old for lucrative expat contracts or starting a new life so it isn't a term I've heard in years.

Are they?
Expats are generally temporary and relocated by the company, with schools etc all paid for.
As opposed to 'immigrants', who arrive under their own steam.
IME people rarely refer to themselves as 'expats' in the U.K because they don't have a different lifestyle to the professional immigrants, of which there are loads.

However, 'less desirable' countries for immigrants have clear expat enclaves, so that's where the term is used. And it's often the postcolonial hangover of these countries that cause the confusion, as they think only white people can be expats. Expats of colour receive noticeably worse treatment.

You have been so eloquent, restrained and patient. I had no idea how dark that corner of MN was. It is horrific. You are right. Time to leave, there is no point.

Why are white people expats when the rest of us are immigrants? | Working in development | The Guardian

desirable Vs grudgingly needed and/or undesirable.

Thank you. Not sure my last post was very restrained. I cannot abide colonial feminism. 'Mean girls', all over Mumsnet, is apparently feminism acceptable but apparently 'Karen' and her weaponised tears is not. All I can say is at least you know where you are with the far right. They may be deluded but at least they don't pretend to be something they are not.

What is the other thread?

Poor guy always gets racially abused in Spain and people victim blame him "he is arrogant" "he makes opposition fans angry" when is that ever justifiable to be racist.

Vinicius Jr says Spain 'belongs to racists' after he was targeted by vile chants | Football | Metro News

Those fans should be banned.
Really disgusting.