The PESH deli where we were so distracted we forgot to think of a new title

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THE NOT-LIST

BESH BAYBEES
dontrythisathome, Bay Amaryllis born March 25.
Cheggers, twinz girlz, born April
FannyPriceless, boy, born June 8
CurlyCasper, girl, born June 24
CUNextTuesday, born June 29
Skihorse, boy, born 1 July

UPDIFFED
IggyPiggy, The one who loves BUMSEX, due July 20
Carrots, giving birth in a lavender field, damn it, due July 25 (boy)
Cosmosis, the one that likes a good ride, due August 22
backinthebox, she bought a racehorse, due September 6
skatergrrrl, the one that overtook the rest, September ??
VAG, lives in De Nile, due 19 September
silversky, the biggest farter, due 18 October (first baybee)
Honeymoo, 3 wees a night, due October 31 (boy)
okiecokie, self-confessed control freak, due November 6
SomethingSuitablyWitty, benelux babe, due November 14
ReginaMonologue, knows when all the sales are, due November 20 (boy)
maswera, jungle hottie - due November (???)
PollyPoo, wants to name her baybee after the dog, The New Messiah is due December 25

I feel like hell. Proper dry retches this morning, constant nausea, headache, weird tugging pains in my tummy (not scary ones, just ones like Muse was talking about last week).

Now, obviously, I'm pleased about this as it hopefully means that Berwhale is getting comfortable. But would I be an appalling wuss to leave work and work from home this afternoon? Given that I have an important brainstorming meeting that I'm supposed to lead?

I took Friday off Drom, I was just incapable of working. I still feel rough, but not as bad as Friday, so am working through it this time.

I don't think you're a wuss to work from home or even just take the afternoon off sick. Or if you are a wuss, than I am too!

take the time off if you need it drom you don't get no prizes for being a hero.

Back from MW, all good. Artie is head down (yay!), bp fine, no protein in urine this time. And we seem to have bred a freak, apparently artie has very long legs.

Great news cosmosis.

I have just spent ages trying to decide what to eat for lunch. I have managed half a packet of crisps and a Galaxy milkshake. I'm staring at a salad trying to bring myself to eat it but I just can't. Must eat something vaguely healthy. Poor Bob.

Great news Cosmic. Long legs are very useful. Particularly when you are tall. Hopefully his legs will stop him turning around now.

Glad to hear Drom and Muse are feeling nice and preggers. You can just count off the weeks until 12 weeks and eat lots of Monster Munch until then. Work comes secondary in my book. Drom I'd bugger off home and let someone else worry... BTW I found that head/nausea about a million times worse if Iw as in the sligthest bit tired so eating adn sleeping are your friends.

Ski SO glad to hear doglets are behaving. Alf has already licked newborn feet so expecting similar behaviour. Not sure how I will feel about my bottom licking dog, kissing my baby. Seriously need to teach no jumping on bed or sofa. Tis hard though.

iggs how you's feeling? Any twinges?

Having carpets cleaned today, so need to sleep with a towel over my face probably. Has anyone else had this done???

drom take the afternoon off!!!! I wish I had not tried to be brave... I got no work done when I felt terrible, may as well have been at home...

muse I reckon don't worry about healthy for now. Your are taking your vitamins innit? So you are getting what you need... Is only a few weeks of feeling shit ( unless you are unlucky like poor ski!) and is best to eat what you can I fink...

Yay for head down cossie Artie getting ready for lift off!!!

TGO's first comment was that he hopes it is not too tall as tall peoples bikes are always ugly

I'm taking folic acid but not more vitamins than that. I will get some proper vitamins today, I normally manage to eat a bit better in the evening. Although I cannot make decisions about what to cook, as I don't want to eat anything. But when presented with food - as I was all weekend at in-laws, I eat it fine.

muse I remember feeling like I had no idea what I wanted to eat. Sounds like you doing well anyway!

Am v glad TGO has got priorities right

sorry moo fink I cross posted with you! I haz nothing, i suspect I may be waiting a while!

cossie Bear has freakily long legs - which do not run along either family line. I'd missed that you had protein in your urine - very glad to hear it's gone though!

I'm very pleased to hear that drom & muser feel like shite! It's all good!

moo Ours have (rather wonderfully) taken it upon themselves NOT to be on the couches/bed - after years of us begging/bribing/yelling - all it took was bringing home a baybee.

Did everyone keep taking vits until the end? I have sort of lapsed now, but eating relatively well so wasn't worrying. Should I?

still taking them now honey

moo my consultant told me not to bother taking the folic acid or vits anymore - so I stopped at about 16 weeks. Then at 35 weeks he told me to start taking an iron supplement, so I am now on Floradix (which he said was fine) every day.

I take the Tommys multi vits. I found then helped ease the ms. Esp as the baybee drains everyhing from your body!

My ms was worse if I was tired or stressed. With regards to food just get down you what you can. Simples.

just iron now.

Oh my good god. How big are these pregnacare tablets! Am I meant to shove it up me bum?

It's a practical joke against pregnant women isn't it? Here: try and swallow this through your pregnancy sickness love. Bwahahaha.

I had a lovely surprise dinner - curry from the freezer that the label had fallen off - but now I have indigestion. I never get indigestion.

Thought I'd run this past you lot for discussion - this is some "crazy-assed forrin shit" by way of the midwives/nurses here.

When we brought Bear home we had a sterilising kit - 10 quid from Asda, microwave Philips kit. We were told not to sterilise everything after single use and if making formula that it was OK to use just normal warm tap water. The reason being was that the Dutch did some research and it seems that all this paranoid sterilising was giving children weaker immune systems and a bit of exposure to "normal" germs was good for them.

So, we've been sterilising every other day and rinsing out bottles under cold, then hot (if you go straight to hot with milk it cooks it on rather than rinsing it out).

We were expecting to spend half our lives standing over a hot microwave/boiling dummies/sterilising water etc. What say you PESH/FESHes?

It's also very interesting to note in my UK published baby books/mags completely contradictory advice to that given out here in NL! E.g., UK says baby NOT to be left lying on side, Dutch say put baby on side otherwise you could end up with a funny shaped head.

muse that's another reason not to take the pregnacare ones! They def made me feel sicker - but some people are ok on them, so you might be!

ski that sounds sensible actually... but am not an expert! I do think we are very risk averse in the UK...

iggy's right - we are very risk averse over here & treat every woman like they gave birth to their brains. Whatever happenned to mother's intuition????

ski I got fed up with sterilising with DD so ended up just bunging everything in the dishwasher - I figured that would sort out the worst of the bugs. Having said that, bringing your wee one up around dogs & horses will do wonders for his immune system.

Have been reading mt baby book - my uterus is now the size of a grapefruit.....so why do I look like I've swallowed a melon

Dunno Ski. I didn't need to sterilise anything for months - DD wouldn't touch anything but milk direct from the boob for about 9 months, and we never used a dummy. Was a bit of a PITA traipsing her everywhere with us, but saved on the old sterilising palaver. When she was 10 months she got her first tooth and discovered it made it easier to hang on whilst moving her head round to look at stuff - end of BFing rapidly followed! After that we just assumed our dishwasher water was hot enough. We did use a microwave steriliser for when we didn't have the dishwasher, but didn't use it much.

In the UK they recommend tummy time to take the pressure off the back of the head a bit. DD wouldn't do tummy time though, and preferred lying on her back a lot. Her head is normal shaped.

Vits - just taking iron atm. Have been taking Spatone iron all the way through, was taking some kind of pregnancy-extra-folic-acid horse tablets for the first 4 months, but stopped then. It is most essential to take it when the neaural tube is forming, and that is complete by 12 weeks.

BTW is it just me, or is it a bit quiet in here atm?

Crossed posts with Clucky. Dishwasher is the way forward! (I forgot to mention I just knew Clucky and I were going to be friends when I spotted her dropping half a Mars bar onto the floor of her stable, looking round to see if anyone was watching, then she picked it up out of the the bedding, wiped it on her trousers and stuffed the remaining bit in her mouth quickly. We loikes a bit o' dirt round 'ere!)

We loikes our Mars Bars too

I?m assuming there aren?t rafts of dutch babies dying from infections due to not sterilising everything in sight? Stick to their advice it sounds less work!

I do think we have a total over ?reliance on anti-bacterial everything in this country, and it does my head in! nothing ?anit-bacterial? comes through my door tbh.

Yes, I have also been thinking it?s quiet.

Hellooooooooo

Skijump - Well I've just spent 60 nicker on a frigging sterilising unit, so I might as well use it I reckon. I'm sure hairy moo will do his best to lick baby's face etc against my will. I imagine as time goes on sterilising less of an issue, but I would be inclined to do it at the beginning - particularly in this heat. But then WTF do I know?

Ladies of the deli, I have a spare What to expect when you're expecting. I thought I'd lost it and turned house upside down and then bought another one. Turns out it was under the bed when carpet cleaning man came yest. Oops. Does anyone want a free copy?

Yep fink it is a touch on the quieter side now (hence my reluctance to split thread before, but no one listens to me do they?? )

Muse also have the 2 tablet preggy care (one oil and one pink) which do make you feel a bit ick without food. But have been routinely forgetting to take them for the last month or so.