The Wagon Round 2: wonder how many will fall off this time?

[GiraffeYoga]

New Threaad Wagoners!

yes. 1st one showed nothing, repeat test showed up 1 dead swimmer....so they made him do a 3rd test and that was clear.

The Doc removed a piece of tube then stitched each end into different part of tissue, so I doubt very much it'll fail.

'course if Dominic (the guy from Mistresses) were to proposition me, desperate for my babies, then you know......

Bump- went for a well needed nap- but woken and still feeling uber pukey :(

Both friends will be at the birth. Normally i'd be with DH until it got too 'gory' for him and would deliver alone, did this with both DS & DD1 and it was great. With DD, DH was there as i was wheeled down to theatre... I'm hoping DH will stay until i get to the pushing stage, then about 5mins after the birth, once i've been cleaned up etc he'll come in to be with me while friends bond over their new baby. We plan for the baby to be delivered onto my friend's chest as if she'd just given birth, she's hoping to induce lactation to breastfeed so it'll be fab for that bonding to help the process.

Wow this is all really interesting Cant. I've seen so many documentaries on it but these details are never discussed.

Thanks for sharing all the info.

morning ladies

quiet on here last night.

Hope everyone is ok this morning.
Cant hope you arent feeling too this morning (as in pukey!)

Sorry in advance for the me me me me post.

I've just had enough of only seeing DD tired/ crying/throwing/tantruming. I never seem to get the best of her. I dont even know what that is at the moment.

I really am at the end of my road about it. I am just convinced (bit like Bumps post) that she acts like that because she doesnt see enough of me and DH. I can't just jack my job in. I could do 4 days maybe but would that really make a difference? Im beginnning to feel really strongly about her not wanting to be at nursery full time but do other things too- but I suppose a change in routine and chopping between things could be more distubing. Maybe its her age and frustration that she cant communicate properly. I just dont know. But the whole thing is just really getting me down.
She just left with DH and was crying as she wanted to stay with me. Does the guilt ever end? Especially as I love my job and working. I just hate what Im leaving behind.

Phew- got that off my chest. I would post on a specific topic but Im rather aafraid of being flamed for working full time. I dont think i can take that at the moment.

GYo- it's not a bad thing to be working full time- you're setting a good example to your DD and at the same time, you say you enjoy your job. If i'd have a real carear (sp?) when i had DS then i'd have most likely gone back to work, as it was i was in a dead end, minimum wage job with not much prospects, so i didn't, and i haven't regretted it.

You can't say what DD is doing is purely because you work... DD2 is getting super clingy, crying if she's more than a few feet away from me out of no-where.... i'm putting it down to a phase.

Keep your chin up and i'm sure it'll pass soon enough and you'll forget she was ever like this!!

As for pukeyness- i'm off to get b6 today.... ended up being sick twice yesterday and have already been sick today and only been up 45mins... :( I feel 'bleurgh' and it doesn't help that i need to get out today, got to get some picnic bits for tomorrow and hopefully to the post office and get last bits of uniform today too.

Thanks Cant. It's great to get perspective of a SAHM. Its so easy to let the full time working thing cloud everyhing! I definately think there is a phase at this age.

SOrry for being sick. It cant be nice at all. I hope it passes for you at by 12wks or before.

well- it's better than it normally is by this point... but normally once i'm sick thats it till about 20+ weeks- so keeping everything crossed for an easy ride. they say different fathers can make for a different pregnancy... so maybe it's my half of the baby that makes me sick!! it was a bit of an experiment i had going on... thing is, depending on how bad the sickness is/gets depends on wether i can help them have another baby after this one... obviously as long as everything else went well... but at this moment in time i'm swaying to the 'never again' side... and i've only been suffering with nausea up until yesterday- just forgot how bad it was

Morning!

Cant - sorry for sickness. Hope the B6 helps.

Giraffe - no one should flame you for working ft. Everyone's situation is individual as Cant expressed so well. O has been getting upset at nursery when I leave him for about 3 weeks now and it's heartbreaking. Recently though it's seemed a bit half hearted crying and more of a tantrum. I think he's worked out that he gets extra cuddles and attention for making a fuss. He's getting more and more cheeky the older he gets
Sorry, my ramblings don't really help your situation though. Please don't beat yourself up about this though. Even if you weren't working, DD would probably be going through a clingy phase anyway.
Have a sneaky hug and a wagon chocolate brownie.

GYo, how old is B now I can't remember?
I left work when DD1 was 7 months old and haven't been back since (although I do wfh but but not many hours and mostly when they're at preschool). I love not going out to work but then I never enjoyed my job. For the 3 months after having DD1 that I was working I was doing 4 days a week, taking wednesdays off and I do remember thinking it was nice that it broke the week up into nice small 2 day chunks.

Hi Ses :) thanks for kind words

Hi Moosy. B is 17mths now. Your set up of Wednesdays off sounds nice- bit like Ses I think! I think I'd have to do Monday or Friday if I took a day off. I've thought about it a lot and cant decide for sure as a it will be quite a financial impact for us.

I really do enjoy my work and the challenge and I actually think that having become a parent has made me much better at my job- or at least more focused. :)

You know when I first read your post I though "Is B about 18 months old, I remember DD1 and DD2 being like that at that age" so that makes a lot of sense. I remember both of them having the most horrendous tantrums and getting so angry. I think a lot of it is the frustration of not being able to talk. They can understand what you're saying but can't make you understand what they're trying to get across and it makes them MAD! Is she starting to try to talk at all? You'll probably find she calms down once she can communicate with you better.

When DD2 was having this phase she's get hysterical so I'd sit down with her, hold her on my knee in a tight cuddle and SSHHH her until she stopped crying, then ask her what was wrong by going through a list of the most common problems eg, have you hurt yourself? are you thirsty? are you hungry? etc. She couldn't say yes to anything but she'd get eye contact when I got the right thing. Sometimes it was just that she wanted a cuddle or wanted me to sit down with her for a bit. I hope she settles down soon, it can be very wearing.

afternoon

thought i would start a list of dcs ages -

dd1 - 5 years (on sun)
dd2 - 19 months old

morning

poor u cant with sickness all info very interesting you are doing a lovely and very brave thing
party food for dd1s 5th bday party tom her bday is sun
getting excited

actually sunny here

Happy birthday for your DD1 Tink! Seems like only 5mins since she was turning 3!

Thanks Moosy for the re-assurance that its probably an age thing. She does have some unique words that we understand and she points a lot at what she wants. We get it mostly. IF she is tired its a WHOLE lot worse. Which is when I see her mostly during the week. So its hard. I dont really get the fun side.

I look forward to her talking more!

Just a quick one to confirm with CANT that we'll see her tomorrow at 10.30 as arranged
Love to all - very tired after a full day out at theme park,with catch up asap!

Enjoy your meet up Cant and Diege :)

Moosy - sorry meant to reply to your earlier question. We've got complete units - cupboards, drawers and larder coming from Howdens. They should start fitting them next week!

tink - hope your DD1 has a lovely birthday weekend :)

Anyone else got anything nice planned for the weekend? Hope you all have a good one!

Diege- getting dressed now, just thought i'd make sure you'd not left a message to say you can't make it. Been sick already today- may have to abandon my DC's with you to run to the toilets later but hopefully i'll be fine by then. :)

seriously- has no-one posted since i did this morning? That's truely shocking!!

Well i thought i'd pop in in case Diege was passing... i'm home safe and sound, all 3 kids behaved, and the older 2 can't wait to go again!! :)

Hi CANT! Glad to hear you all got back safely- had worried that you were on the train with 2 changes as it was earlier than the one you thought you'd get,and would have a nightmare time. We all had a fab time and it was so sweet the way my dd3 and your dd1 embraced and told each other 'love you' as they said goodbye Yes, we must do something like that again soon - maybe Manchester museum, or the Maritime? Blackpool is also very do-able for us,poss september time while it's still warm?. Hope the sickness didn;t get too bad (oh and yes, CANT does have a cute baby bump everyone
Hope everyone is ok - very quiet! We need another honk to rally the troops!

Sounds like you all had a good meet up :)

Diege - would love to provide you with a honk but not ov yet and may be tricky this month with inlaws staying...
Are you on 2ww now?

Tink - your photos of DD1's party look fab :)

Gruff - if you're lurking, hope you're doing ok

Hello everyone else!

Thought i posted last night, but it never appeared
Try again.
CANT- thanks for sharing all the information regarding the surrogacy i have been thinking about all the ins and outs. Can i be really nosey and ask if they are paying you? I think what you are doing is truly amazing especially considering the way pregnancy treats you sickness wise, i for certain know i couldn't do it, you friends are truly blessed to have you.
Diege and Can't- sounds like a good meet up hopefully i can join you all soon

Tink- party photos look great hope DD1 had a great time.

Hi everyone else SES, Moosy, Giraffe, anyone else i have missed (swear i still have preghead after 15 months is it possible)

So the bleeding has kinda subsided
I know i need to get it checked out but we leave on Tuesday morning and the doctors here is not the easier to see or cheapest, so will wait until we get back to the uk, and flying always messes me up bleeding wise aswell. 3 more sleeps

Morning,

Cant and Diege, glad you had a good meet up.

I am having a bad morning already. I scalded my hand by stupidly reaching over the boiling kettle, then burnt my other hand on the frying pan. Oh and my omelette looks like a pile of egg and cheese not remotely omelette shaped.

Hope you all are having better mornings.

morning

dd1 had a great party all goirls very behaved

we r off to bstke in am inb on train for a meal and dd1 has lots of bday money 2 spend

poor u kay

smithy glad bleeding subsided

TINKS, hope you dd had a good time spending her money .Are ther party piccies opn facebook?
KAYZ, hope your day improved!
SES, yes on 2ww, 7 days post-ov...
CANT, I know you said yesterday, but when was you it tested and got the first bfp this time???

Evening!

Smithy - I can understand you wanting to wait until you're back here to see GP. Glad it seems to be getting easier but probably best to get it checked out still. Good luck with the big move and journey back

Kay - ouch! Hope you're day went ok after that!

Diege - any symptom spotting?!

Well I have a high on my ClearBlue Fertility Monitor today and a +OPK this afternoon. DH won't have a GOF whilst his parents are staying though - grr!! Is he BU? Don't know what I'd do if my parents were staying. They live so close, it's unlikely to ever happen. His parents don't go until Tuesday...
No temperature shift yet to indicate ov so you never know, we may be ok!

Hi SES!Hmm I think there are ways around the gof-fing with parent's next door issue TBH. Could he not be a little 'creative', sort of get the preamble out of the way himself, so to speak, and then include you at the last minute? (I speak from experience )If not, it may well be that Tuesday will be ok, you never know, though I'd be tempted to try the first option. Symptoms-wise not a lot to report (sore boobs, back ache, lots of wee-ing) though I have had another rise on my temps, so what looks like a second shift after the first post-ov one which I've read is a good sign? Actually now that I've established when ov has taken place,I'm going to stop taking my temp this cycle as I am becoming a bit obsessed with it and waking 5ish, checking clock etc to see if it's time to test, even dreaming about high temps
Smithy meant to say earlier that it sounds like things are ok bleeding-wise - I think if there was a real problem (ie, infection) you would be quite poorly by now (high temp etc). Sorry,didn't mean to sound scaremongery there .All the same, it might be worth a check up when you get back here. What part of the UK are you moving back to?
Right, up to bed. Have just watched quite a good horror (Cry Wolf) with a great twist at the end, so need to wind down a bit first with my Penny Vincenzi . Night all!