The Wagon Round 2: wonder how many will fall off this time?

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New Threaad Wagoners!

Congratulations GRUFF

We are not on the TTC list yet working on it. However first i have to get my body sorted out.
Sooo have a problem need some advice on, i discovered the miscarriage/blighted ovum at 8 weeks in April, then waited 4 weeks to try and miscarry naturally with no success. So at 12 weeks in May i had a D&C. Before this i had no bleeding cramping etc. So since then i have been bleeding, not heavy i started to die down to brown about 4-5 weeks go then the first night of staying with DH's grandma i had a really really really heavy bleed, i have never leaked during the night before. This was like i was hemorraging, i woke up feeling wet thinking i had wet myself and looked to see blood everywhere. I woke DH up to get me a towel so i could walk to the bathroom, and it happened again. It soaked through knickers, a sanitary pad, my nightie, a sheet and a thick mattress protecter, then dripped all along the carpet and into bathroom. The bathroom looked like someone had been slaughtered in there, blood all over the floor toilet, walls!!! i lost 2-3 massive clots almost the size of my hand. the blood was really thick and red.
Since then i have been bleeding none stop, some days heavier than others, i thought it had finally stopped a couple of days ago no bleeding all day then just before bed heavy red again. I really don't know what is going on, no cramping just this bleeding. I really don't want to go to the doctors again before we leave as it is such a hassle. Do you think my body is still trying to get back to normal after the miscarriage?
It has been 3 months since the D&C!

Sorry for such the long me post, just starting to bother me now, and DH too

Morning :)

Gruff lol at not TTCing. I sometimes think the best was to get preg is to not actively TTC - IYSWIM

How is your Mum?

Ahh yes Playing! Where is playing? :)

Smithy- hi! That sounds awful about the bleeding and not normal. Have you been back to your doctors since it happened? You may need that investigating. Maybe something got left behind at the D&C?

Hi Tinks, Sorky, Cant, Star and anyone else lurking :)

Nat- if you are lurking, Hi! I hope all is ok.

Morning!

Smithy - just wanted to say I agree with Giraffe. I think that you should get it checked out. When I had second mmc, they wondered if first ERPC was incomplete and said that if I'd experienced prolonged bleeding after the first ERPC then that could have been the case. For me that was one of the reasons for not thinking it had been incomplete (as I wasn't still bleeding).
Don't want to worry you unduly but I would go and get seen.

Right, posting on phone so sorry if that doesn't make proper sense - I've not reread it!

Morning Giraffe and anyone else. I'll try and catch up again later :)

Morning,

Gruff, Congratulations!!!!!

Smithy, I'd go back to the doctor as soon as you can to get checked out.

I am a bit annoyed at the minute. DP when he started his new job was told he would be working 5 weeks on and 5 weeks off. Monday he got an email saying they wanted him to now do 6 weeks on and 6 weeks off. The email pretty much says he has no choice. But he emailed back and said he couldn't do that as he had booked a weekend away and that he was told he was doing 5 weeks and coming home on the 2nd September. The captain of the ship he is on is ringing the office today to try and get it sorted for him. I do wonder if legally they can make him do that as he was always told it would be 5 weeks not 6.

Sorry for my moaning essay. Hope everyone is ok this morning

Morning! Hi SMITHY! I was just thinking about you this morning, and wanted to ask about ds (I went on hols just before you were due to get results of MRI)Did things go ok?On bleeding front, I echo what others have said.It does seem that your body is trying to expel something that might have been left behind from D&C - not that uncommon. Please go and see your DR asap xx
KAYZ,that's a pain about dp's work. I think they do need to provide some sort of notice by law about changes to terms and conditions.Maybe check on Employment board so that you know where he stands,legally?
Well fertility friend has identified ovulation for me as being on cd 12 (cd 15 today)as had another shift in temps today (I think I have a gradual 'staircase' pattern as opposed to a sudden rise). This is great news as had been ovulating cd15/16,and af starting cd 26,so this bodes well for a better luteal phase I'm sure the agnus castus has helped in this respect, but we'll see! If I have another 32 day cycle like last month I may discontinue it just to see what my 'natural' cycle is like. Oh for the days of 28 days and getting pregnant at first attempt!
Hi to everyone else

morning :)

Kayz- no idea where your DP stands, but it's worth looking into.

Diege- have you looked at train times? can't believe it's only a couple of days away now!! DC's know we're going and a re very excited!! DS has a pile of his match attax waiting to bring for DD1. And i have their letters that i WAS supposed to post i'm so lazy!! They also got your DD's a 'blackpool' postcard when we went to the tower that i must remember to bring!! :)

I'm feeling a bit in the wars today! woke up with a coldsore, a stinging eye and feel like i've been kicked in the jaw too- think DH might have battered me in my sleep!! haha!! And to top it off feeling the most sick so far- sickness bands are helping but not as well as usual!!

Sorry- Smithy- was also supposed to say i agree with the others. Have no idea what could be wrong, but it really doesn't sound right... How long till your back here? might be worth getting seen before you come home, just to be safe. :)

morning

smithy - definetly get to the drs good luckxx

hi cant - poor you - i have a rattly cough is nasty cancelled dd2s mmr injection having a quiet day then dd1 back @ 2pm
hi diege - glad u know when you ovulated

Well i have managed to pull some energy from somewhere and managed to get the pots done, cleaned out the filters on the dryer and loaded it up- then put another load in the washing machine... just need to get some more energy to fold all the clean clothes piled up on the dining table and get them all away.

Cant - yay for energy surge. Hope you can get the balance right between making the most of it yet not doing too much!

Kay - that does sound wrong. I can understand if they asked if that were possible but to insist at such short notice

tink - enjoy your quiet day until DD1 returns :)

Diege - that's great news about ovulation timing. I'm on CD11 and no sign yet. Must gear up for some GOFing but not sure how keen DH will be whilst his parents are staying and in the bedroom next door!

Talking of which PILs arrived yesterday. So far so good.

Reminds me though, Star - thanks for asking about my mood. Tbh, it was mainly due to my run in with my mum. I've had to get over it now as don't want any ill feeling for my brother's wedding in 10 days. I was v hurt and angry though. Basically, Dad normally goes down the pub 3 or 4 afternoons a week and with his broken leg, hasn't been able to go for about 6 weeks. I asked him if anyone would have told them what had happened and he said no and that they were probably wondering. Mum interjected and said it didn't matter as he wouldn't be going back!
I said "Don't you think it's up to Dad to decide whether he wants to go to the pub or not?" and she just let rip saying "S, you have completely the wrong attitude! M (younger brother) has the right attitude and you and S (older brother) have completely the wrong attitude"

She is just so controlling! (You may remember that since his fall, he's been unable to get upstairs to his wallet and she hasn't deemed it necessary for him to have it downstairs!)I understand that Dad has a history of alcoholism and really shouldn't drink at all but he's so much better than he was and doesn't get ill or abusive at all now and his liver is in remarkably good shape. If he were to ask my opinion I'd say I think he should cut down further but by her treating him like a child in this way, I'm worried he'll go back to hiding his drinking and revert back to spirits rather than beer.

Bless him, when she left the room, he whispered "thank you" to me.

I also obviously didn't appreciate the comaprison with "my attitude" to that of my brothers

Sorry, I didn't mean to rant so much about that!

CANT, have just checked the train times, and mine gets in at half-past the hr so shall we say meet at Limestreet at 10.30am? (where the station shops are?).Earlier would be a push, just due to the connecting bus times to get the our station,but could do the 11.30 if easier? Hope your manage the train with your nausea!Oh and dds will be very pleased with the letters

Hello Diege :)

Miserable day here. Kitchen works progressing well though. We have a floor and a ceiling and they'll be plastering the walls tomorrow.

Poor O has had a sore bum from teething for a week now. Regular nappy changes and sudocrem/metanium are stopping it getting worse but it's not really improving as such. It's not really nappy rash but red raw in places :(

Diege- 10.30 should be fine- will arrive at 10.02 myself, but can keep the DC's entertained till you get in. If i got the later train i'd have 2 changes, and can't be doing with that!! will be getting the just before 5pm train if not an earlier one if we were finished early and you were going home too. :)

well, i've got another load in the washer and another in the dryer, and gave the bathroom a blitz- had a nap too- but woke up just as tired as i was before! I dont remember being this tired last time!!

Ses yay for kitchen (when are you hoping to be in?) but booo for sore Owen. I've always found a simple zinc based cream to work better than sudocrem etc, it seems to work as a barrier more than the other creams.

Moving day for us is now wednesday next week and I Can Not Wait! :o

cant - r u relate to anthea turner with all your cleaning!!

ses - yah @ kitchen

moosy - exciting

dd1 back and is kicking off already why does she behave perfectly @ nanas and plays up for us keeps crying

tink - hope DD1 settled for you.

Moosy - exciting about moving in! How's the packing going?
We should be getting windows, units, worktop and appliances in within the next 2 weeks. Then need to think about floor, wall tiles and paint on the walls and we'll be there. Hopefully we should be able to use it in about 3 weeks.

As I've said, my DB gets married in 10 days. His fiancee moved down from Scotland last year and doesn't really have any friends down here yet. I've offered to take her out for a girls' night on Bank Holiday Monday and we're taking my mum and my cousin too. She doesn't want a hen night as such but I'd really like to make it a bit fun without embarrassing her. Any ideas anyone?

Packing? What's that? I haven't started it yet and don't plan on doing any until one or two days before, it doesn't really matter if it takes us 2 weeks to move everything as this house isn't going to have anyone ready to move in for a while. Did you decide which kitchen units to go for in the end? Our Howdens ones arrived today but we've got no doors for them yet...

Smithy, I agree with everyone else, I really think you ought to see a Dr sooner rather than later, it doesn't sound good.

Can't, I've said it so many times on MN but I'll say it again, if you're feeling sick get vitamin B6 (30mg per day), it works wonders and although it doesn't stop you being sick it does really really help with the nausea and feeling drained all the time.

Diege, glad the temping's going well. I think a double rise of temp is supposed to be a good sign of pg, finders crossed for you!

Oh, and I'm glad my rummaging caused you so much amusement! I do miss all that in a way even though I definitely don't want any more. I don't think I could cope with another, mentally or physically! Fizz's just started sleeping through the night properly but not every night, in the last 6 days she's alternated between sleeping for 12-13 hours, and waking up for 1.5-2 hours in the night hopefully now that she's getting more active she'll sleep well more often...

morning

smithy - hope all ok ?

hi moosy

ses - sounds like a lovely idea for bank holiday weekend

dd1 - got worse wouldnt go to bed - wouldnt sleep in her bed in her room as she has a velux window and rain very heavy she gets very scared we only let her come down in this occasion and she has her ready bed on the loundge floor next to us as our bedroom is next to the loundge
last nite wouldnt sleep in ready bed either kept crying
ended up in our bed
didnt drop off till 10am

went to tesco for food shop last nite got drenched coming out!! blommin weather!!
got all the party food
got dd2 a top for winter,sleepsuits and dd2 a pack of new vests

dd2 slept for the first time last nite without her sleeping bag used a pillow (special flat one from age 1 with big holes in) and a quilt. she wore a sleepsuit

waiting in for parcels today

Morning.

Moosy- i'm taking Pregnacare, they have 10mg vitamin b6 in them... so would getting b6 30mg not be too much? My sickness bands are helping, but i still feel a bit of nausea when it's at it's worst in the day.

Tink- what's the party food for?

Ses- i'm sure a girly night out with plenty of drinks would be fun!! I never had a proper hen night, just a night out- and it was loads of fun... even if i did end up home shortly after midnight!!

Back on cleaning today... need to wash yesterdays pots as after doing them after lunch i couldn't stomach doing them after tea, so have them and breakfast pots to do- plus DH made himself toast and a brew for breakfast and has left the tops a mess- how can he make EVERYWHERE a mess by buttering 2 slices of toast?

Also doing all the bedding and curtains, since cleaning out the dryer filters yesterday i've managed to get rid of my back-log of washing from the rain! So have empty washing baskets for the first time since i can remember... so making the most of washing everything else!! Might even do the bathroom mats...

Also need to finish even more folding- it's good having empty washing baskets- but not so good for all the folding and putting away i now need to get done.

Then think i need to hoover the stairs and bedrooms today if i can get round to it... off out shopping tomorrow, getting my new phone i think, though DH gets his contract upgrade in 6 weeks, and can get a phone that i really like with it, but he likes his phone that he was given off his step-dad acouple of weeks ago... so wondering if i should wait for my phone and get the one off his contract, and treat me and DD2 to a silver corss dazzle pram.... i really love them!! and was gonna get one, but DH is going to watch the england match next friday so needs the money, i was gonna spend on the pram, for petrol...

Just a very quick one as the inmates are taking over the asylum yet again!
SES, was thinking about you and your dad last night. I suppose my first reaction re: the pub would be with his background, but then thinking about it, there does seem to be a large element of control what with his money being upstairs etc. Do you think your mum might be really scared,and it manifests itself as controlling behaviour? Or is she just a control freak? . Either was, not on what she said about you and your siblings . Are you ok?
CANT, slow down woman! I have serious laundry envy - I get it washed, dried even, but never get the chance to iron/put away other than the odd hr here and there. Oh and Sat plans sound good. See you at 10.30am inside station by shops
MOOS, I'm too scared to rummage anymore, fear of what I may find. Cervix was high and harder than previous day yesterday(3 days post-ov) but don't really have much to compare with (other than yours and SORKY's cervixes ...) so may start more comprehensively next month!
TINKS, that sound a bad night Hope you get a bit of respite today - your dd1 sounds very similar to my dd3 - very hard work at times.I'll admit that I resorted to smacking yesterday after she bit my arm so hard it drew blood. Hardly the most rational response, but it follwed an hr long screaming fit in the village and I'll admit by the time I got home and the bite happened, I did lose it .
Right, best go on the shameful note

Love to all x

Diege- I have to say i was also a rummager and i found that when i just fell pg this last mth i remember on the day of the last insems my cervix was very low and soft... can't remember last time, but i normally just rummage to check CM, but also have a little poke and a prod at my cervix, and noticed the change this time round.

Sickness is REALLY bad now- so bad i seriously think i'm gonna be sick :(

Hmm that's interesting CANT - I thought cervix was high and soft at ovulation? Maybe you got the troops in place and then your cervix rose the next day? Any way, it worked . Out of interest,when how did you track when to inseminate? opks?

i used opk's... i tracked only 1 month before insems. then i knew that on a 28day cycle i normally OV'd on day 14 according to the OPK's, so worked insems for day 12 & 14... it worked... and AF had arrived a day earlier making me OV on day 13 this cycle... Sperm can survive for up to 72hrs so the day 12 insem was so it was waiting for my egg to be released, and day 14 insem was for luck basically. Do you have any OPK's? I have a load left over... could bring you some on sat to use next mth if you needed them? they are lucky!! :)

I predict a girl :)
Can't can I ask a question?

What happens to parental responsibility, given you've used your egg?

Do you sort of allow the baby to be adopted and relinquish PR to the female friend?
Just curious :)

Diege high soft open is GOF/cervix alert.

Moosy/Ses sounds good with kitchens and moves...have fun storing and organising.

Hi everyone, hope you have nice days...

Ooh yes Smithy I agree, need to go see GP re: bleeding, let us know how you get on.

Sorky- as I'm married legally DH will be the legal father at birth, but because the baby is biologically my frinds DH's baby then we sign over parental responsibility to him at birth. Then once the baby is 6wo we apply through the courts for what is called a 'parental order' (PO). Similar to adoption, but because the baby is only born because of us all agreeing to surrogacy they get an amended birth certificate with both their names as parents. I will relinquish all my rights as a mother for the PO, but legally up until about 6mo when the PO is normally granted i'm legally the mother.