The PESH Deli - where black-humoured diffed BESHes turn to hormonal mush.

[CurlyCasper]

If you don't like the title, tough. I'm still talking

BESH BABYWIN STATS

This isn?t a fucking list ? right?

BESH BAYBEES
dontrythisathome, Bay Amaryllis born March 25.
Cheggers, twinz girlz, born April 12

UPDIFFED
Ponymum, the one with the worst hips, due mid June
CUNextTuesday, takes no shit from the Daily Mail, due June 28
IggyPiggy, The one who loves BUMSEX, due July 20
CurlyCasper, the ginger with the dodgy joints due July 21 (girl)
Skihorse, cradle snatching web geek, due July 22 (boy)
Carrots, organic hippy hunter, due July 25 (boy)
Cosmosis, the one that likes a good ride, due August 22
Pandora, She's got wings, due September 6
skatergrrrl, the one that overtook the rest, September ??
VAG, lives in De Nile, due 19 September
Honeymoo, puppy lover, due November 1
silversky, the biggest farter, due 21 October (first baybee)
okiecokie, self-confessed control freak, due November 6
SomethingSuitablyWitty, benelux babe, due November
ReginaMonologue, must-get-the-goss-from-ski, due November 20

am thinking we'll see how this one goes first...

ski & rots thanks for your thoughts on the whole MW biatch thing. I've been brooding about this since my last post (hence the silence) and I think what I might discuss with the doctor is that since I won't be able to have the baby at our local community hospital because quite obviously I won't be able to get my lard arse through the doors, would it be perhaps worthwhile for me to transfer to a MW at the hospital where they have widened the doors especially for me! . These only seems logical to me since the biatch MW won't be present at the birth, so I'm not sure why I should be trying to build on a relationship with someone who ultimately won't be there for the big production, iyswim. I might as well get to know the MW's at the place where I'm going to pop, even if that means there is more than one of them, and a bit less continuity of care.

I also managed to horrify myself by doing a search on MN with the word "overweight" - to quote our now infamous Prime Minister, I didn't realise there were so many bigoted women in existence!!! I was shocked about some peoples attitude on overweight mums and how they think we should be dealt with - it makes me realise that there may well be no hope for humanity after all!

Anyway, enough miserliness. We spent the bank holiday researching prams. We were going to go for a Quinny, but then OH pulled up a load of not so good reviews for them - so I think now we're going to go for an iCandy Peach, which is a bit like the Quinny but better reviews and build quality. It also works with the Maxi-Cosi baby car seats which is what we're going to get with the familyfix base. We did go to MotherCare and have a look at their Pram selection but the assistants were not far from useless - I should know it's a bad sign when you ask someone for advice and they just read what's on the label! Happily though, there was a couple there looking at baby bouncers and I liked the look of their pram and so I sidled over to them and asked if it was any good, they said it was fab and they suggested a local Pram specific shop that has really good customer service and knowledgeable staff too, so if I get a chance I will pop over there today. What ever the outcome, the Pram looks like it will be the major expense of the whole shopping list, so we were quite relieved when OH parents offered to help towards the cost, which was nice of them!

Hope you're all doing well! I'm off to pick up the dog sh*t and mow the grass. My life is nothing but glamorous dontcha know .

Oooh the iCandy is gorgeous

Sozzer Cunty and Curly I realised my mistake after pressing post. Twat. Of course Curly you are welcome as are all howling monkeys!

June or July definitely good for me although will be sunning myself first 2 weeks of June... How I am supposed to expose myself in swimwear will be a test of confidence...

Can anyone enlighten me if ok to take the oral canasten when preggers? I've got one but seem to have lost the box somehow.

oral is not ok, I'm afraid honey. But pessary is. They'll prescribe them will nilly to preggos. MWs also suggest overnight treatment with an inserted clove of garlic ...

willy!

honey According to the DM you will either be a "fine beautiful figure of a woman" or a "disgusting display of vulgarity" - I think it's mostly dependent on the size of your tits/pout. I've been popping along to the pool in my differ tankini (Next) and don't feel self-confident at all.

Please for VAG to enlighten us wih 20 week scan news?

I'm off to the midwife now. Back soon.

I'm back! It has been a busy weekend of travel and emotional bombshells, but all's well!

reggie I am mad for you about the midwife's attitude and your idea about bypassing her and liaising directly with the MWs in the hospital sounds like a good one to me. Other than that, I think the peshes have already given you some good suggestions, just wanted to add that I too was

I am jealous at the thought of the London Pesh Fest. Won't work for me of course. I am still shuddering at the thread Honey mentioned where everyone turned on the poor woman who has come along to the real life meet-up when she wasn't "in" enough. . I don't want to be that lady.

So, the much anticipated and agonized over telling of the folks actually went really well. It was a massive surprise, but they rallied quickly and were overjoyed. As predicted by behaviour on this thread, they were totally distracted by the whole 'engagement' announcement and were still absorbing that and processing it when we had to hit them with the main business on the agenda. But they were wonderful really, and they even reproached me for ever "doubting" them (they picked up this vibe somehow) and were basically amazing. So much so that I cried inconsolably when leaving at the end of the weekend (not something I ever do: eg: John Lewis ad (seen it online) leaves me completely cold). But feels great to have parents and siblings completely on board. I just wish they were closer.

Poo the story of Boo's arrival was lovely. I must look into this hippo stuff. It sounds like the very biz.

PS - ski - I'm still sniggering at the landrover 'winching' it out and 1400 stitches.

Morning PESHes! Apols for quick meme, will catch up later, scan on Friday went well - Clint is apparently freakily normal, being almost bang inthe middle of the scale for everything measured. Couldn't see much - we didn't want to know sex but scan seemed so confusing to us that we woulnd't have been able to see anything if we'd wanted (eg we were studying beautiful baby head only to be told "and there's a kidney" etc)

Scan pics not great - and scanner at work even worse, so will try to borrow better one from Design dept later. Also Clint did not like being scanned - kept trying to get away from it. Seems a grumpy baby already - will fit in well....

Did anyone get a bit depressed around this time? I can feel the black dog following me about a bit - actually he's been there for a few weeks, I've just been ignoring him. Spent most of the weekend curled foetally, sleeping, yet still feel exhausted this morning. Please to say this shall pass soon.....

That's really great Witty I'm so, so glad it went well with your family. You can relax now and look forward to lots of support from them...

Ski I suspect a tankini with boulder support will be in order. I'll be 18 weeks so please god will have a bump then so people don't look at me with oh dear you could lose a few pound, as I tuck into chips round the pool.

Maybe we could have a European 'summit' meet up based in NL????

Curly I don't have pessaries but I do have the normal cream. Presumably same stuff?? Else I might try the good old yoghurt trick. Ugh.

How can I have missed a birth story????!!! Right off to backtrack.

VAG poor you feeling blue. I'm sure it is normal. Try not to worry too much and get out into fresh air as much as you can. Sunlight is good for the soul. xx

Also, most importantly meant to say my poor ickle woofa is still not 100%. Since Saturday night he has been sick every day, and whilst he seems ok in himself, his appetite variable and obviously v worried, Off to vets this arvo so hopefully they will tell us nothing serious and he has just got a little bug or something.

Nom nom!

How are you all?

boxer I think I saw you on the telly in a crowd shot, snogging a bloke. But you wouldn't do anything as vulgar as that, would you? Please to explain blue poo.

VAG Black dog has been seen lurking around here too.

Damn, I've been spotted! (If only it weren't for those pesky kidz...)

Morning, all. I've been evicted from the BESHpit for making the quickest transition from BESH to PESH in living memory. Can I come and hang out with you lot instead?

Do I have to do a test?

(Not a POAS test, a PESH test)

moomoo I was using the cream for a few days, but the real relief came with the pessary (got that from consultant on Thurs).

Fanny confuses me. Help oo stressed and black doggish to work it out. Hitting a real low after lovely weekend and baby/house/work/husband stuff has me in tears at my desk and ready to crack up.

can we have cheery-up hugs please vag? Excellent scan news - pleased for you.

ski we've done Sunsail which is similar to Mark Warner. It was absolutely fantastic. LC typically had breakie with us, then we played on the beach in the morning. When it got to midday we chucked him at the childcare place and ignored his screams, then went sailing. Typically they creamed them up and brought them onto the beach to play on kiddie boats or do other activities and they had an absolute whale of a time (hence ingnoring screams, although I sobbed the first few days!). They had lunch in childcare, then we got him back for the afternoon and took him more gentle sailing or similar, and had him with us until bedtime. It meant that we could do all the adult stuff we wanted, and have time together, and have a great family holiday, too.

In the evenings there was a choice of a video club, babysitter, or baby monitors which were designed to reach between the restaurant and the chalet, and as it was an enclosed site with security, security wandering around and good fire detection in the chalets we chose that option as he hated the video club and there weren't enough babysitters (they were really for the babies). We could actually see our chalet from the restaurant, but then if he'd been younger we probably wouldn't have done that. He was old enough to have explained to him where we were (and he knew how to get there) and what was happening, and the monitor was 2-way so we could talk to him. If he'd been under 3 I would have gone with the babysitter, or video club (there were cots next to the video room but they were too small for LC), or taken him to the restaurant with us. At his age though he wouldn't have functioned if he'd not gone to bed at 7, whereas babies will sleep during the day and therefore can be more flexible in the evenings.

fanny / grump cor it's getting violent in here!

reg good plan. Now, re prams. Please do look out to see if there's a NCT nearly new sale before you're due, and also try car boot sales and freecycle. We've got a £600 job for £45 at a NNS, then contacted the seller and bought the matching car seat for another £20. Good as new, saved a fortune, job's a guddun. I also bought a Mamas and Papas travel system, value circa £650, from a car boot sale for I think £35 or so (but I had to haggle). Again, like new.

If you're not keen on the car seat being second hand, you can usually buy a matching one separately and still save lots.

honey - If you feel you're not being pregnant enough, I'd echo iggy's hand on the stomach - leave nobody in doubt. Good luck with your little fella at the vet this afternoon - he didn't get in to the paint or anything daft did he?

VAG great news about Clint! I'm still getting black days - yesterday was awful - I took my anti-emetic, still puked and still felt like shit all day - before falling asleep on the couch at 5pm and dissolving in to tears at 9pm convinced I'll make a terrible mother. Midwife just said if it lasts more than a day or two to tell them about it - i.e., get help!

Right, well I'm just back from the midwife with new tales of contrary attitude towards us non-supermodel types. Right, first off my BP = 120/60 - so very low, all good. Julian's heartbeat described as very strong, uterus measuring exactly where it should be and he got 2 gold stars for kicking me so violently. She was trying to feel where he was and thinks his back is against my right hand side and thinks he's head down. Reason she can't be exactly sure is because my pudenda is very muscly. I know, I know - aren't you all jealous because of my muscles in places you never knew you needed them! Then she said you need to go for a growth scan. Pondered in the car coming home, then immediately rang back and say "what's the problem? Why do I have to go for a growth scan?" and she said it's standard protocol for overweight women. So there you go - on one hand he's healthy and I've got too much muscle to feel what's going on and on the other - I'm too "fat" (government guidelines) to see what's going on. Still... get another scan so it's all good right?

fanny I heard she had her skirt hitched up to almost over her bump and was hanging around the veterinary enclosure wanting to inspect tackle.

Ok, my mind is clearer now. Nothing like a visit from the boss to clear your head and stop you being a blubbering wreck.

'ow do fanny? Please stop confusing my addled brain...

I don't think he did Ski but now I feel worried he might of. He hasn't been very violently ill, more like bile (ever since the undigested whatever it was on Sat night) so something is either not coming up or he has a bug I think. Good news on Julian being a v good boy and doing what he should. Less good for being told you're overweight. BEAAATCH.

Grumperina there is a test, but I can't be fagged to find it frankly. If you like dogs, horses, brie and other toxic substances you should be ok. How old is your ickle baby angel then?

Fanny is you one of those hossy types perchance?

honey Oh I know I'm overweight - it's just so bloody contrary I feel. But Jailbait says they're just covering their arses and if that's what the government says they've got to do then so be it. Otherwise it'd be a very grey area I suppose "this one's got a high BMI but is a muscly jock" versus "this one's got a low BMI but look at the gut on it!".

Ta, honey. Yes, yes, yes and yes, in answer to your questions. Hopefully that's all the paperwork out of the way. My ickle baby angel is... nearly 5 weeks. But already making its ickle self felt!

Bit worried by your talk about attitudes to less-than-svelte women I'm no sylph myself...