**August 2010** Part 6!! Starting to show with gusto now ladies.

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Thread 6.

You lot talk too much.....

Happy chatting

Dibby, we put the twins in their own room at 7wks when their sleeping got better (they were just waking once a night then), until then I slept in their room with them. I think it is personal choice and you won't know till baby gets here. Some people really don't want to be separated from the baby. I was glad to get away from them . You can always get a crib if you don't want to separated, but don't splash out yet as you might not need it.

As for clothes sizes - 0-3mth clothes tend to be quite big (fitting an 11lb-er) so your baby probably won't fit in that size at first (oddly!). Tescos newborn size is 7.5lbs and I think they are a good size for most newborns. Don't bet on a prem baby being kept in - my DD was born at 36+5, she weighed 4lb8oz and they let us go home after two days! She wore prem baby (5lb) outfits [cute], but most people don't need sizes that small. Go for 'newborn' to start with.

Whoops! I only just realised that I only typed half what I wanted to on my post to Dibby

What I meant to write was...

We're putting this baby straight into a cotbed in our room for the first 6-7 months, then hopefully will be moving into what is currently dd's room - by then it should be all redecorated and lovely and all furniture should have been shuffled aropund as necessary.
I'm the same as Dibby in that I really don't want to be faffing with taking it apart and putting it back together several times. This way we just have to do make it up twice, and take it apart once - in a 7 month period this aint too bad really

got the tummy pain again walking home today - took me about 20 minutes to walk 200m! To all those of you suffering from heartburn, what doesit feel like? I always thought it felt like it was around your heart but I'm wondering if my pain could be that - it kindof feels like it's caused by acid and it's more at the top of my tummy than where the baby is. It's gone now i'm lying propped up in bed. Hmm, hoping I don't get it again, but I'm know I'm lucky not to have had heartburn yet!

On babies sleeping in your room, I have several friends whose babies moved out after just a few weeks as they kept their parents awake - I think 6 months is the ideal but not necessarily achievable

Hello everyone. Just a quick note to catch up - been offline the last few days.

I've been getting some palpitations at night recently - a bit like when I was anaemic last year. So - can't be that unusual! They don't worry me - maybe they should, but they don't.

I also won't be joining FB as also don't like it - so I'm with Dibbydab by saying please don't stop posting on here, ladies! I'd miss you too much.

Sterilising - a friend has said she just used some special powder stuff in a bucket with hot water - is that steam sterilising, or something different? And - if you use the dishwasher, does that mean you have to run it really hot, or just on an ordinary cycle?

Cazem - I agree with the others, your friend sounds a nightmare - and definitely I wouldn't feel guilty about quietly just letting it drop - friendships are supposed to be two way things - and if it's all 'give' from you and 'take' from her, then that's already not a friendship - by my definition, at least. Nothing like to the scale of yours, but I have an old university friend of my own, who has lived her life the other way round to me - she's spent the last 15 years having kids and is now getting a career, whereas I've done the other thing - and am getting a little bored with her 'know it all' attitude about her way is best and I know nothing... She's also informed me she will be coming to visit for a weekend soon after LO arrives... I just didn't respond - I don't want ANYONE except DH around in the early days, and then just my mum and MIL in the first few weeks. She can come visit when she's invited.

Neenz - thanks for the stuff about baby clothes sizes - I had no idea, and had presumed that 0 - 3 months meant 0 when it said it! Will have to put some separate new born stuff on my list, in that case.

That sounds like heartburn marzipananimal. Really feel for you weehector- heartburn is awful. I have been getting it a lot too.

Just ordered my nusery furniture-www.marksandspencer.com/Oscar-Wardrobe-Changing-Pocket-Matteress/dp/B0033ISPFS?ie=UTF8&qid=127307878 2&categoryNodeID=&ref=sr13&page=&node=42966030&sr=1-3&mnSBrand=core&rh=

Nearly there with all the things for baby now!

Hi all hows everybody doing (other than heartburn which im pleased im not suffering from YET)
Not much been happening over here, too busy trying to sleep all the time.

1 think im a bit worried about is it feels like im looking through fog. Its not all the time, just sometimes. Not sure if i should be worried about it or not.

About newborn clothes--I had a very different experience from you, Neenz. Both my DS1 and DD1 were 7.5lb and would never have fit newborn size clothes. They went straight into 0-3m, and only wore them for about 1-2 months before going up another size. Their legs were far too long to fit in newborn. I personally would recommend not getting v. much until baby is born, since birth weight and length will determine what you need. Also even if the LO is slightly small wearing a baggy babygro for a couple of weeks before fitting it properly saves you money and isn't a problem. Save newborn size for tiny ones only, I think!

Anyone having nappy brain? I have a severe case. I have literally lost most of my short term memory, and have been heating DS2's bottle teats instead of bottle, car keys in freezer, can't recall what a friend just finished telling me over the phone, etc. I've been religiously taking EFA supplements since my first pg and in between each, but it doesn't make any difference that I can detect. Unless without them I would be functionally catatonic. It's so weird.

Lastly, I've been wondering about how to feed DS2 whilst in Cyprus in May. He'll be turning 1 then. Most of his food I puree with a hand blender or mash, or he can eat things like crackers and sandwiches. When travelling, should I just resort to jars of baby food, or buy a Babydan food mill to puree/pulverise what we're eating? Just wondered if anyone had any experience or opinions.

Ditto about the baby clothes vitapulchra. My MIL went overboard with the newborn sizes - most of them have never been worn!

I have nappy brain big time. I leave something at home every day: keys, iPod, purse ... you name it!

Anyone else had leg cramps? I stretched my leg when I work up this morning and it felt as if someone had hammered a nail into it .

Just a quick one for dibby - having baby in with you for first 6 months help to regulate baby's breathing and therefore reduces risk of cotdeath (in a nutshell, will try to find proper link later). What we did was moses basket to start with and then I bought a really good quality travel cot (M&P) with a proper mattress and had that next to our bed. Then ds moved into his own bedroom at about 7 months when he stopped feeding at night.

This time we're getting a cot, rather than a cotbed, that fits in our room. IKEA cots are quite compact so that's one option but I'm looking at another few too.

HTH.

(can't find a link just now but the FSID website simply states "The safest place for your baby to sleep is in a crib or
cot in a room with you for the first six months" don't know where I picked up the breathing thing??)

ronx ive had awful leg cramps randomly waking me up on the odd morning. Only lasts about 30 seconds (seems like much longer) & then gradually fades. One minute im fast asleep, then sat up in bed & wide awake with the pain. Wakes me up better than an alarm clock, except its usually at about 5am! No idea whats causing it & its not every night but assuming its something to do with pregnancy as have never experienced it before.

Lovely furniture, esp that cotbed Joey. I showed the nursery furniture we'd like to my parents earlier & they like it too We looked at ordering it today but delivery said within a week or two & the room wont be empty & painted & ready for it until mid-June so have vowed to be patient for a few more weeks yet. Its so hard, i just want to get on & sort it now!!

Cherry this is what i have my eye on; www.bambinodirect.co.uk/details2.asp/ProductID/2966/sid/106/tutti-bambini-jake-7-piece-furniture-set .html

(Hope that link worked, ive never put one on here before) I originally found the set on the tutti bambini website but it was £155 more expensive on there! Was very pleased with myself when i found it cheaper Plus they will assemble it all on delivery too! Im perfectly capable at DIY (more so than DP!) but dont think i'll fancy tackling all that lot in a months time... Just hope they dont sell out / discontinue / up the price before the end of the month! (note to self - must stop being irrational & paranoid!)

Only other thing to find for the room apart from curtains / bedding etc is a junior bed for when DP's little girl stays over but am conscious i could quite easily turn into an organising control freak at this rate so will see if he wants to sort that (although i have already planned where it will go! Just cant help it lol)

Baby is definately taking over my brain too, both at home & at work. Even poured boiling water on my cereal the other day instead of in my cuppa...oh dear

Sweet dreams all x

ps - link almost worked but im getting the furniture in the 'beech' finish)

Without doubt I have baby brain...but that could be to do with me being frazzled. In the middle of me having a good old cry at uni, I couldn't remember my pin no for a card I use almost daily, but could remember the one I've not used in over a year! I'm so not a cryer and got myself more upset at the fool I was making of myself surrounded by blummin 18 year olds who haven't got a clue what real life is like!! (Sorry, that might have been a bit unfair)

I've rang the midwife about my heart too and she thinks it could be anxiety because of all I'm trying to do at the minute . Anyhoo, I'm off to the docs on Friday to get myself checked out.

Well, since I finished one of my assignments today (one down, two to go) I've had a rather indulgent evening in front of the TV with my PJ's on catching up on Glee (OMG....the Madonna show!). Feel a bit better but still think I might burst into tears when I see the hubby when he gets in from work.

Evening all - just watching my bump shift from one side to the other!

I have put a bump pic on my profile if anyone's interested. I don't think it's very big, probably because I'm tall and so the baby has space to go upwards.

Girls is it just a little bit sad that I am so excited to have bought nappies tonight?! Haha! Mum came down to spend the evening with me cuz DH went to cinema with my sister (watching Iron Man 2) and we ended up in Asda and then Tesco for a potter about!

Bought:
Huggies Newborn Size 2 (7-13lb) x 200
5 little pairs of socks
Pack of 5 bodysuits - Newborn size (up to 11lb)
0-6 Month sleeping bag - which I don't think I'll be using till she is in her cot but it was only a tenner so I thought bargain for a sleeping bag!

and Mum bought me:
Pack of 10 basic white bibs.
Cute little white fleece blanket.

So I'm thoroughly cheered up now! Baby shopping trip was just what I needed!

My baby brain consists of mainly being a complete butter fingers. Constantly dropping things. I seem to have lost my hand-eye co-ordination, and hand function! Haha! Sorry had to giggle at the hot water on the cereal though!

Emster - you have a lovely bump!

Right off to bed! Can't believe the time already again! That will teach me to have late evening shopping trips with my Mum! At least the kiddies are not in tomorrow (school closed for polling) so will be having a paperwork day/ICT training!

Think I've finally decided who to vote for. Never voted before so I'll consider it a right of passage tomorrow!

Night all! x

morning all

thanks for your concern about dd2 she is much better now though coughing like a smoker and waking up extra specially early.

dd1 also not v well and went to bed at 7 only to have woken 5 times by 930 and was so hysterical and I had to get dh back from work.

dibby we had dd1 in our room until she was 9 wks in moses basket then moved her next door into the cot and she slept through for the first time. It was literally the other side of the wall and we all slept better for it.

Dd2 was a bit older more like 12wks but we had to move her as she outgrew the moses basket (9lb at birth).

Morning all

Caz i am voting for the first time today too. Bit scared! i picked up some more little bits yesterday too, as DD fell asleep in the buggy while we were out so i could do a bit more shopping whilst she was quiet.

We had DD in with us til about 4months or so when she was getting too big for the moses basket, and she moved into the room next door with a monitor, so felt that was ok. This one may end up having the cot in our room depending on how well he sleeps as i don't want him unsettling DD when she is a good sleeper iyswim?

Feeling really emotional and hormonal atm, its horrid.

Hi all.

Sorry, haven't been on here for days. I was away for the long weekend, staying with my sister, and then when I got home the laptop packed up (DH seems to have managed to fix it, so he is seriously popular, as I seem to be unable to exist without internet access for more than about half an hour ). And then it was my birthday yesterday, so my parents came down and took me out to tea .

Haven't had a chance to catch up with everyone's news, but I will try, promise!

Not much to report here. DS went in a big boy's bed for the first time while we were away, which went far better than expected - didn't get up at all. But he did wake up at 5am both mornings through crawling around and kicking his covers off. Considering how to stop this when we get his new bed at home in a couple of weeks. Has anyone tried those zippable Grobag duvet sets?

Picked up all my old baby stuff when I was at my sister's, and started to go through it all yesterday, which was lovely. New baby is starting to seem a bit more real now! My mum was very disappointed, though - she's been desperate to go clothes shopping, but it turns out we have 25 babygros and a similar number of vests in both newborn and 0-3 size, plus loads of other bits. In fact, the only thing I have so far identified that we actually need is a sunhat and possibly another cardigan . Given how hard up we are at the moment, though, that's quite a bonus.

Right, off to rustle up some breakfast. Getting quite excited about the election now, though also quite nervous about the result. Might have to stick my big red jumper on today, as I suspect I might be the only Labour voter in my entire constituency (they don't bother even fielding a candidate for the local council elections here ), so I feel I ought to make my presence felt! I tried to explain to DS about voting, by saying you put a letter X next to the person you want to choose, but he just said he wanted to vote for the letter P (first letter of his name), so I don't think he quite got it .

Morning all!

Caz I'll join you in the nappy excitement - just bought some Itti Bitti D'Lish reusables in a gorgeous peppermint colour! They will look so cute on a little newborn bottom!

Feel a bit guilty this morning. Had MIL on the phone last night wanting to know what we needed for the new baby. I was a bit short with her to be honest and told her we didn't need anything . She just went so extremely overboard when ds was born that we do actually still have quite a lot of stuff that was obviously only worn a couple of times. But because she had bought so much stuff, there was literally nothing left for me to buy and I ended up really resenting her for that. Weird reaction, I know! But when you need to nest, you need to nest! And that includes buying clothing! Ok, I know I'm trying to justify myself here and I know I'm coming across as unreasonable but the woman bought 15 newborn hats for starters ffs!

Anyway, to cut a long story short I'm going to call her today and tell her we need some muslin squares. Apparently she's gone overboard on the bodysuits/vests already, so I'm going to very nicely ask her to put them back (we have tons - about 20 left over from ds) and get a gro-bag instead. Oh, and maybe some hats don't seem to have kept any of the 15 ones she bought last time

Blueberries my mum was a bit like that. I know it was just excitement, but was a bit figured this time that we would write a list of what was needed and then if anyone asked we could say "oh, well, we still need .... if you wanted to buy something for us, that would be much appreciated" but luckily my younger sis is pg too, so my mum will swamp her with stuff this time

There is very little we still need tbh, that i would feel a bit erm.... if anyone actually asked

Wow, blueberries, 15 sunhats?? By my calculation that's about 14 more than you need . You're not BU at all; it's so frustrating when parents/ILs spend tons of money on stuff you don't need, when there are probably loads of other things you do need (or, frankly, when you just need the money!). My parents have been lovely and have given us a cheque for a couple of hundred quid, because they bought our travel system last time and know that there's no 'single ticket' item we need this time round, but wanted to be 'fair' to the new baby. (Though I know my mum won't be able to resist something cute as well!!)

Though I wouldn't go so far as someone I've just heard about, who sent a 'we've had a baby' email to everyone they knew (and I mean everyone), with a request for no gifts, but including their bank details instead........

i would be miffed too blueberries if i didn't get to buy anything myself for the baby. I'm hoping the ILs will just pay for the pram or something like that (they're loaded).
I bought some really cute scratch mits yesterday (first thing i've bought!) and than wrapped them up with DH's birthday presents (he reacted better than i expected). He's not quite as excited about baby clothes as me so I'm trying to infect him with my obsession!

Elusive that is genius!

When i was pg with DD, Dh's lovely grandfather gave me (me, not us) £500 so that i could buy stuff for the baby or go for lunch etc without having to ask DH for money (i had given up work already due to a broken leg) It paid for everything we needed (and some leftover for hospital parking!) as my mum had got us a buggy already. He is still helping with this one, as he died 2years ago and the inheritance is coming through now, which will make life easier. (i know that sounds a bit , but you know what i mean)

Hellooo everyone. Happy election day or something Anyone staying up all night to watch the results?

Gosh this is a long week for a 4 day week. I'm super tired. I wake up every hour in bed with crampy sciatica type discomfort, takes me 5 minutes to turn over which wakes DH and I up completely and I think the broken sleep is starting to affect me. Maybe next week when I have the bed all to myself for 3 weeks (bar weekends) will help...

Just into my 30th week now (29+2). Not sure if it is the tiredness but I have a mild return of morning sickness. Nothing like as vile as before but still quite draining. Baby just feels so heavy too even though today my maternity pants wont stay up cos it is quite little and soft this morning. Saw my Midwife on Tuesday and she took pity on me as I am getting a bit fed up with all the appointments I am having to have so she said that if I am seeing Nurse in 2 weeks and Consultant in 3 weeks she won't ask me to come back until 5 weeks time (otherwise it would be 2 weeks). Bless her - I'm tired of appointments.

Marzipan I'm getting out of breath really easily at the moment. The tiny hill up to work is killing me and I've had a stitch the last 2 days just from walking up this slope hill. Could that be what you have. On the other hand I get terrible heartburn, acidity and indigestions and the indigestion feels a lot like a cross between a stitch and a heart attack but in the wrong place!

Lily From what I have read to use dishwasher rather than sterilising equipment, the dishwasher needs an 80 degree cycle which ours has.

Caz Your "friend" is unbelievable - really out of order getting her fiance involved like that. I would feel ganged up on and would already have whizzed back a zinger by now but that's not a recommendation - that's just me! In terms of recommendation, I'd proably wait until calm and then reply setting out to him exactly what you had done to try and be accommodating and how hurt you are by her and him getting involved and hope it makes them feel really guilty. I think it is well known that weddings and pregnancy are the two times in your life when you become most self absorbed. I recall rolling my eyes at pregnant friends who seemed to have lost all topics of conversation other than LO but suspect I am nearly as bad now (only the intensity of my job making it impossible to allow it to be all consuming). I hope you either get it sorted or it really has run its course and you don't regret its passing.

On another note - I had a dozen Tots Bots size 1 reusable nappies arrive yesterday and they are fab! So Cute! I was cuddling them and showing them to DH and his response? "They're basically a toilet - "

Star maybe you should get your eyes checked out. It's probably just tiredness but I read that pregnancy can cause vision deterioration and unlike many pregnancy maladies this one is not one that immediately reverses post baby.

Vita - I'm doing quite well on the nappy brain. I think it is this project at work keeping me alert and focussed. I am back to being a bit teary though. Cried all over DH when I got home last night for no good reason. He ran me a bath and brought me an ice cold becks blue to drink in the bath. Then next door delivered the co-sleeper which had been dropped off at theirs and I cried again because the instructions did not make any sense. So DH set it up in the lounge for me (no room in the bedroom as yet) so that I could see it up (even though that means he will have to take it apart again to get upstairs. Bless him!)

BTW - I'd go for the jars when you are on holiday. Plently to buy at the minute without biying something just for a short holiday and you are all on holiday and entitled to a bit of a break.

Bubbabear Have you seen the Tutti bambini set anywhere? I really really really have my heart set on the Barcelona set but have not seen them anywhere. The TB furniture is really well thought out (drop side cots, under bed storage etc) but I want to know what the build quality is like before I buy. They are exhibiting at the NEC in 2 weeks time so I am hoping to check it out there and make a final decision. I read mostly good reviews on the internet - one bad but I'm putting that down to the reviewers DH being crap at DIY since they went for self-assembly.

Hilda hope your Dr puts your mind at rest. I'm with you on being a bit teary and emotional again - that harder third trimester is really starting to kick in now I think!

Blueberries bless your MIL but I know what you mean. We have lots of people buy us stuff but a few weeks ago I was getting quite stressed at having to wait for their schedules for delivery etc while I was wanting to sort out the nursery etc. Made me feel quite frustrated and ungrateful too! But it's natural.

Alice/Caz - enjoy the voting. I have a postal vote so did vote this year. Did not bother last time around. DH asked me to remind him to vote today. I asked who he was voting for and since I agree with his choice, I agreed to remind him!

oh Caz - didn't mean to suggest that you are self-absorbed with your pregnancy. Just saying that to non-Pg friends, you sometimes think that pregnant friends are very focussed on their pregnancy - also there is a much more physical reminder of someone being pregnant than there is of someone getting married (unless they walk round in a wedding dress like Miss Havisham). Also until you've been pregnant you don't realise how pervasive and intruding into every day life the physical changes are. sorry

And woo hoo - pension issue has finally been resolved. My work are immediately paying my missing pensionsion contributions into my fund along with their missing contributions. They are then asking the pension trustees to calculate the investment/opportunity loss which I have suffered as a result of the contributions not being made a year ago (so I need Greece and the Euro to stabilise now!) which they will make good. They are then giving me 12 months to repay my share of the contributions to them. I love my employer!!!!

That is good news Aussie

I am feeling bloody miserable today, can't seem to snap out of it, and DD is being a bit of a pain