**August 2010** Part 6!! Starting to show with gusto now ladies.

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Thread 6.

You lot talk too much.....

Happy chatting

It's good to know I'm not the only one mrsZac....we sold ours 3 weeks ago now, had offers accepted on one we really liked then they decided not to sell . As a result, I've spent the last 2 weeks in tears feeling like time is running out, with poor DH not knowing what to do with me as I'm not usually a cryer!! 9 viewings over the last weekend (I'm worn out!) have ended with us finding one we LOVE, then its the added stress of waiting for them to accept or not! I can usually cope with all sorts thrown at me but with cooking a baby, finishing my MA (dissertation not even started yet but exams over the next 3 weeks and work being really manic I'm feeling a bit frazzled!!!!!

And I also feel better that I'm not the only one confused about what to buy....and shopping is usually a key strength of mine

Good luck with aquanatal

Evening all

Can't remember who asked what but here goes..

primark- love it went there on monday as dd1 wanted to take the bus somewhere (you can tell she's a spoilt taxi driver's daughter! ) and we went to primatk to buy her some knickers and sicks and some new sofa cushions.

Some of the kids clothes are a bit though- girl's t shirt with 'Future footballer's wife' on anyone????

washing powder we have to use supermarket own non bio and no fabric conditioner as all the rest makes dd2 s excema worse so stuck with the that. Rubbish for getting stains out though.

sterilisers we have the avent microwave steriliser it has been used now pretty much constantly for 2.5 years and is still going strong. Sterilised dd1s bottle u ntil she switched to cows milk at 1 but carried on with dd2s until recently so about 18m as her hypoallergenic formula is really thick and preferred to sterilise it all.

glucose tests yes I'm having one at same time as my growth scan on monday only the blood test though not one where you have to drink the lucozade.

shopping only thing bought is some new bottles..

birth plans not going to write one as didn't either of the other times- think a too detailed plan sets you up for feeling like you failed imo.

Anyway news from here is that had to take dd2 to a and e yesterday after she sort of collapsed at a friends house then puked and went floppy was very scary but they ruled out menningitis- she had a rash and was turning away from light but they decided it was a viral respiratory tract infection and just to let her rest.

Whoever recommened becks blue thankyou just had one mmm mmm mm

Hi girlies, sorry so many of you are feeling poorly! My heartburn has stayed away recently but the one thing I cannot take when I have it is milk! Makes it 100 times worse for me - I haven't found anything that helps once I have it..

Our house is still on the market (has been since March) and I am now pretty sure we'll be stuck here until after the baby has been born which is very sad as I really wanted to be close to my family. No way we can afford to buy before we have sold though. Gave up looking at houses a few weeks back because it seemed pointless, but keep an eye on rightmove all the time!

Had a couple of people interested, but they all have their own places to sell so its no good until/unless that happens. Only had 9 viewings so far since March so that's not many I don't think. I just wish we could be settled somewhere we actually want to be, seems pointless choosing furniture etc. for the nursery when we don't know how big the room will be.

girlsyearapart I hope dd2 is OK, I bet you were in such a panic when she collapsed. Let us know how she gets on.

vix I think 9 viewings since March is decent going, not bad at all! There seems to be SOLD signs going up everywhere so I'm sure something good will happen soon. We had the same idea as you - not looking until we sold - but we've ended up in such a panic once ours sold, worrying that we're going to end up living with my parents (lovely as they are, it's not an appealing option!) I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.

All this stress can't be good for the bambino's...mine seems to become way more active when I'm stressed and upset, which makes me more anxious....anyone got good tips on staying calm? I used to be able to cope with almost anything without stress but since I've got pregnant that's gone out of the window!!

Oh, and another thing I wanted to ask....does anyone else get a REALLY strong heartbeat and sometimes palpetations?? Some days I can see my heart beating through my clothes and get a bit worried about it. I also feel really unfit and get out of breath easy. Is this normal??

Hilda, I'm not sure if the palpitations and breathlessness are normal but i do get them too, and one thing I forgot to say was that this baby is a total wild boy! He kicks and turns and punches like he is trying to break out - especially just as I am trying to sleep at around 11pm every night. Last night the whole bed moved a couple of times because he moved so hard. I love feeling him move but that level of movement is a bit scary!

I tried listening to him with the doppler a minute ago and he went mad so gave up

Haha, me too vix, baby has a good old party in there, but as soon as I put DH's hand on my belly it decides to have a sit down and rest!! I've not seen my belly move yet mind, although I haven't been looking too closely.

Maybe I'll ring the midwife to ask her opinion on the heartbeat thing, although I'm reassured you're getting it too.

The bath is the best place to start seeing your tummy move. Now mine moves so much that I can see it sometimes out of the corner of my eye while I'm sat at my desk - quite offputting!

I'm on the interview panel for my mat cover job next week - it's an internal recruitment process, so I know one of the three candidates. must try not to be too biased - I think she would be fab!

That's exciting Emster, I think it's important to find someone you trust too so you know you're not going to come back to work to a mess left behind!

I'm quite lucky there, we've done a re-jig of our management team as a colleague has just returned from mat leave. I love who is looking after my team/role so I know they'll be looked after so well .

Let us know how you get on!

Well, I'm shattered, and got quite a bit of my uni work done so job's a good'un....see you soon xx

Well I have a very pleased Mum and sister now - both saw and felt baby move tonight!

Talked to Mum about the friend situation, who gave the viewpoint that friend may be feeling like I have no interest in her wedding because all I'm interested in is baby. But she also agreed that my intentions were honourable by trying to be kind etc and friend being unreasonable and bridezillaish with the demands and bitchiness. Mum then also reminded me that I had my own bridezilla moments this time last year, and that brides just want their days to be perfect. Anyway I can see what Mum is saying, but Mum agreed as all you have said this has obviously been building up for a long time with the drifting and jealousy and to just let "nature" takes it course etc. Mum said I don't need added pressure for the rest of this year and that my health and baby are more important than anything else. I love Mums! They always put it into the right perspective don't they! I hope I can see both sides and be level headed like that in 25 years time for my little girl! I'm always far to emotionally charged at the moment!

I'm also quite happy with my maternity cover - although glad that its my jobshare that has to work with her and not me! Haha! I'm lucky to have a jobshare already instead of handing it all over cuz at least I know she'll keep on top of my responsibilities for me too and the supply teacher could probably get away with doing bare minimum.

girls - sorry to hear your DD is so poorly. hope she is doing better soon. You mmust've been so frightened.

Hilda and Vix - I'm under consultant led care for a minor heart condition (irregular heartbeat) which results in 'episodes' of palpatations, breathlessness, tight chest etc. Dr said that lots of women experience palpatations for the first time in pregnancy, but that if you already suffer from heart related problems the problems commonly increase during pregnancy, especially 3rd Trimester onwards as you get bigger. I've had more episodes than normal the last 6-8 weeks and am going for a review and birth plan discussion on 24th May. (29 Weeks). I would let you MW's know that your experiencing palpatations so they can note it down, check you out, inform Dr if needs be etc.

Ok all that was typed about an hour ago and half way through I got an email from friends fiance. (This is fine, we were actually friends a long time before they got together so I don't see this as too weird. Although annoyed that he's decided the need to get involved.) Total emotionally directed all fault at me type email, they are really hurt, devasted by me and what I think etc etc. I'm furious and it just goes to show how selfish and self-involved they really are. Why blow it up even further today, there is no need whatsoever. What was said was said and apologies were made yesterday and I thought we had 'resolved' - not friendly sort of resolved but enough to let it lie and calm down. I'm all het up now and I can't see me sleeping very well tonight. Again like I said earlier - I'm far to emotionally charged at the moment, maybe I need another Mum conversation..

Tip of the day: Do not write enormous posts when your toddler is running around over excited by Tom & Jerry, they will knock your mouse and you will lose everything

So, it went something like this;

Caz i think they have settled it haven't they. Sorry they were horrid to you

For lists of small stuff (sorry, can't remember who asked, pg brain and all that ) the bounty booklet has a basic list.

Can type one out for you, but run out of time for now, playgroup awaits!

Morning ladies,

Cazem sorry to hear her fiance has got involved, I'm not sure what to suggest, they obviously don't want to let it lie... maybe you could calmly put your feelings down in an email? maybe then you would get your point accross...

hilda I get lots of palpitations too, have done since day 1! I'm used to them now but get them worst when I'm trying to get to sleep, I kinda skip a beat, and when the next one comes it's like it's beating right out my chest! scary when I hear it on the doppler... but I'm still alive! Sorry to hear you lost your house, but fingers crossed for this one! the other one obviously wansn't ment for you, they did you a favour We've seen one we really like but have 2 flats to sell and have to sell at least one before buying hopefully the fact we've put one up fixed now will speed things along, I don't think this house will hang around forever - it's perfect for us though stupid market - so frustraiting!

vix I agree 9 viewings since march is good going, On the flat we live in we have had 1 viewing since putting it up the viewers really liked it but stuck in a chain, as with most people.

I have 2 Fbook requests, SA and TH, can anyone confirm they are from this thread?

x

Morning girls,

Caz I agree with the others & your mum, your not being selfish at all by pulling out & actually doing the right thing by everyone. Is very hard dealing with a reaction like that when you have known somebody for such a long time. Most definately sounds like she is very jealous of all that you have. However, jealous or not, a true friend would not make you feel like your precious new LO is an unwelcome hassle! How horrible . Reading how they've treated you actually made me feel pretty . Pregnancy empathy i guess!
Mum's are great to get reassurance from arent they? So lucky to have mine, she (& my dad) are absolutely lovely). Hope my little boy thinks the same of me!

Keeping fingers crossed for all of you who are moving house. I dont envy all the stress & worry you must be going through with the anticipation of it all. However, i am a bit envious that you're getting the chance to find your 'dream' home for your family. I love my little house and its fine for bubba's first home for the first year or two of his life, but theres a lot i'd like to improve. Plus is very likely we'll be moving in a few years anyway, possibly even to Germany (as we're army) but you never know, its always pretty unpredictable!

Im a happy bunny this week as my lodger told me she is moving out at the end of this month - yay! Dont get me wrong she's a lovely girl & its been nice having her here, but im really excited about being able to start the nursery a month sooner than i thought. Was so excited at the weekend when she told me that i was straight on the internet looking at the type of furniture i'd want.

(Sorry sounds all me, me, me but DP has said he trusts my judgement & for me to have a look with my mum as they are helping us out with getting the big bits of furniture). Plus with him away a lot its hard to get a weekend when we're all free to go shopping together. And like he said, no mummy-to-be is going to make the nursery look horrible!

So off round to show mum my findings after work today & get her verdict. i think ive found the set for us but would be great to go & have a look at it if we can find a shop that stocks it near us. Ive only seen pics on the internet but looks lovely & a great deal, they'll even assemble it all on delivery.

Thank you to whoever put up the link to that M&S dress/skirt a while back. i bought 2 of them & they came the other day. Wore the blue one yesterday & had loads of lovely compliments, even my (male) doctor thought it was a great find! lol Bless him, he is a real people doctor & makes you very relaxed & feel more like a friend rather than a patient.

All fine at the 25wk check up. Bubs even kicked so hard when the doctor used the doppler that he kicked it right off my bump! i think either the baby doesnt like the doppler or its his favourite game as he usually gets extremely wriggly when i use my one at home.

Hope all those colds & niggles clear up for everyone. Have a great day x

morning all, i'm feeling a lot better today - i can actually go 5 minutes without blowing my nose!
That's exciting about starting on the nursery bubbabear. I can't belive I finally get to go baby shopping for myself - I've been looking ofrward to this since i was about 8!!
caz glad that you've got a sensible and sympathetic Mum Shame about the unreasonable friend!

Quick question: I had some bump pain last night which is hard to describe - I've never had it before and it's gone now but it kept me awake for a while. My whole tummy felt internally very sore- nothing like period pain or normal tummy ache, and not muscular either. Any ideas?

Hello everyone

caz your friend's behaviour makes my blood boil. Selfish selfish selfish and she'll reaslise it one day when she's carrying her own precious babe.

Had my 25 week app this morning and all is fine though I did feel compelled to mention that I didn't think my baby moved much compared to what my Mumsnet chums. She told me off for beign worried by the internet but I do only feel the odd flutter most but not every day. Anyway she didn't seem overly concerned and heartbeat etc was all fine. Next check up is the day after we return from honeymoon whooo hoo!

So how much do your babies move at 25 weeks? A whole lot or a little? I guess every baby is different?

xx

Afternoon girls, have just managed to get caught on about a weeks worth of thread!

Caz - you're friend is caught up in her own "thing" - it's her wedding - your yet to be born baby is not a priorty to her - (speaking as someone who nearly got an attack of the Bridezillas last year, but managed to be talked down in time to avoid any permanent damage) really does it matter whether the flower girls have slip on shoes or buckled shoes - to a bride these are the things that keep you awake at night, let alone one of your bridesmaids saying she doesn't want her dress fitting at a time you've arranged/she's pulling out completely. Take the moral high ground and just let it go - she'll realise in her own sweet time what a selfish cowbag she was being over it - you live and learn. From what you say the groom might get a better offer in the meantime anyway...

Blueberries - heartburn - feeling your pain honey, I'm routinely popping double strength Gaviscon tablets, and any time I have to bend down kills me. DH now has to do my trainers up - ah, love is...

LCRLCR I'm 27 weeks and feel the baby move every day, though some days more than others - it was very quiet on Saturday which had me worreid, but more than made up for it on Sunday. Possibly the positioning of your plancenta is making movements more difficult to feel?

Afraid I won't be joining the FB group, as I really don't like it, so please don't stop posting on here!

We are into week 4 without a kitchen now, I must be insane, but it's going to look great when it's done. My HIP got deposited in my account last week and I put it towards a double Belfast sink - my reasoning is that I might wash the baby in it sometimes as I haven't bought a baby bath

Advice please ladies - we have a moses basket which baby will be in in our room, however, no room in our room for cotbed once it outgrows moses basket (well there is, but it's so bloody wide we can't get it through the doorway, and I'll be buggered if I'm putting it together in our room to take it apart to get it out of the room, to have to put it together again in the baby's room). Would it be awful to put the baby straight into cotbed in it's own room once it's outgrown the moses basket, or do I need to think about getting a crib for our room to last until it's at least 6 months old?

I'm sure it's all on the interweb, but can someone who's looked into it please tell me why the baby needs to be in with us for the first year (or is it 6 months?) I know it reduces the risk of cot death, but why? The baby will be in the room next to ours, not in the West Annex, if it makes any difference.

Think that's all

Hey ladies, how are we all today?

Hate this shift, feel like I'm always running behind everyone! Start at 12 and finish at 9 - lovely!

MrsZaC I think SA is coffeelady - I've accepted her. Not sure about other lady tho.

Caz I'm sorry your 'friends' fiance now feels the need to put his two-penneth in. I can understand both of them wanting a perfect wedding day - who wouldnt? But they're not condiering your needs at all. They're being very selfish about it.

(And I too was a bit of a bridezilla - but not with friends/family! With the wedding/reception venue people cos they kept moving my stuff around balloons/chairs/candles/flowers...etc.)

marzi Glad you're feeling better

Bubba Fab news about your lodger!! What furniture have you got your eye on? at baby's fave game.

Hilda I get palpitations too, mw keeping an eye on them as my pulse is faster than it should be. Maybe mention it to your mw?

LCR I think with your firt it takes a while before you get big thumping kicks and wriggles. Don't worry hun, baby will be kicking you black and blue before you know it

Sorry people are having trouble selling their flats/houses. It's such a pita being stuck in a chain, it gets in the way of your dream place!! Hoping it improves for you all soon

I had my GTT on friday, phoned for my results yesterday and everythings fine. As we knew it would be but never mind...if I hadn't had the appointment I wouldn't have been in the stupid crash . Trying to be calm and serene about it all but not working very well!!

xxxx

LCR I wouldn't worry too much about the movement we're due a day apart and I've started feeling my bubs quite a bit now, but I remember reading on here a few weeks ago that one of the mums who is due at the start of August was getting lots of movement before me and I got myself all concerned. Since then he started moving loads more and I'm sick of being kicked in the bladder!

LCRLCR Dont worry every baby is different! I have heard as well that busy women sometimes dont notice some flusters- you might be missing a few with all of the wedding planning! Where is your honey moon going to be BTW?

Caz I think Bubbabera is right- there are jealous or have something missing in their own lives. My friends sister in law acted in a similar way when she became preggers and it turned out she felt my friend had taken "her turn" Bonkers

My landlord just sent us a card and flowers after we told them about the baby- so nice of them. I thought they would be fine with baby but still a relief that they are happy!

Dibby We're putting baby straight into a cotbed, in our room, for the first 6-7 months. By then I'm hoping we'll have organized the other big bedroom ready for baby to move in with either ds or dd.

Joey Thats so sweet of your landlord to do that!!

Thanks everyone for your words of support....had such a horrible and emotional day today as the owners of the house we want are keeping us hanging as they have others viewing it this week! I'm really not good at coping with things when they are out of my control at the minute. Usually I would not think about it but when it's a house, and hormones are raging it's another story!!

I've spoken to the midwife and she thinks my heart and palpitations are anxiety. I've made an apt with the doc for later in the week so best case scenario he can simply reassure me.

Caz it's awful when others don't understand your situation and take things out of context. Even though we're all 'adults' I really believe that people grow up at different stages. Her wedding is the most precious thing to her at the minute and maybe she doesn't realise that other people have lives too? Upsetting as it is, try not to worry too much as things will work out in the end....one way or another! (I should take a leaf out of my own book rather than break down crying in the middle of the uni canteen!!!)

MrsZaC - I think TH is tah2. I checked the location on the list list and her fb location and they match. Have confirmed

Hilda Sorry the vendors are messing you around . Hopefully it will be over soon and you can exchange contracts and complete purchase very soon

Nothing to report apart from grumpiness and express solidarity (yet again) with the Heartburn Gang. Sigh.

So pissed off as I've had to cancel a picnic in the park with a pal today because heartburn has kept me awake all night and I'm reluctant to take any food or drink other than milk & bread in case it exacerbates things and I'm just generally feeling horrible. And I have a sore throat, which hurts when I clear it and I'm having to clear it lots because of all the milk clagging in my throat. The bump has just exploded again over the last 48 hrs...I can 'feel' he's bigger...so its unlikely to get better any time soon. How can a minor ailment make you sooo miserable...

Thank you ladies - you are all lovely! Not a lot more to say really is there - nevermind, its just all a bit sad. Took a long while to drop off to sleep last night but actually slept well when I did get to sleep.

Baby has been moving around loads today - very aware of her! LCR I think every baby is different and it really depends on how they are lying, placenta and everything else. I've felt much stronger movements since 25 weeks onwards so you'll probably notice your LO a lot more in the next few days too!

marzi - not sure about your pain but I have a very uncomfortable bump, almost painful when she's gone rock solid. Which I've now decided is BH... could that be the same for you?

Dibby - initially we thought we werent even going to be able to fit a moses in our bedroom and I had resolved baby would just have to go straight into her own room. I had proper guilts about it and we've come up with a solution (poor DH will find climbing into bed interesting!), and Moses will fit in our room but after she grows out of that I expect I will put her in her own room. How long to babies stay in Moses? I don't really know... and I'm not sure why the suggestion of 6 months in your room is there? How does it reduce cot death?? Anyway if I still feel I can't put her in her own room yet after she grows out of moses I may consider a crib.... but saying that my friends baby went into her own room from Moses at 6 weeks and she's nearly a year old and perfectly fine, happy, not at all affected by it! I suppose each baby is different though. Will have to wait and see what I think is for the best when she is here and too big for Moses...

Joey your landlord sounds lovely.

Hilda sorry to hear you've had a horrible day. Moving house is so stressful isn't it. I couldn't imagine going through all that now while pregnant. I was emotional enough when we moved in here and there wasn't any chain! We moved from parents homes into a brand new build so it was all quite straight forward, but I still found the solicitors bits v stressful!!! I think your entitled to a good cry!!!

Had loads more "arn't you huge, must be growing a big baby" comments today - starting to bug me a little bit, this need to comment but I'm sure everyone means well! Like I said on FB I've decided that I look big cuz I'm short, and baby ran out of room growing upwards so started growing outwards early on!! Taller people have more upward growth so don't look so enormous so quickly! Haha! Well that is my theory and I'm sticking too it! Baby will be average size! [hopeful smiley!]

Awwww weehector. Heartburn is no fun!! Sorry you had to cancel your picnic .
Are any of the usual remedies working (gaviscon/rennies etc)? Whenever I get heartburn I chomp one of the asda antacid tablets and it's gone within 5 minutes.

If it's really really bad you could ask your Dr for a precription for Omeprazole (sp?). My DH has Crohns and severe acid reflux and it really helps him.