Spring is sprung, the grass is ris, I wonder where my toenails is - Due June 2010

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Ok, here it is ladies. Nice new thread for us all to enjoy

Hi everyone,

Hope you've all had a lovely weekend. I was treated to a surprise Italian on Fri at a lovely local place by DH and have been out with a bunch of friends for food again today, so feeling rather greedy, but enjoyed it all

My MW sister had a good feel of the baby on Saturday night and has confirmed that it's in the breech position which I already guessed. I know there's time yet (I'm 30 wks) but I have a sinking feeling that it's going to stay put. I've started doing the on-all-fours, bum in the air position to try and get it to turn but has anyone else got any tips that I can try?

I'm shocked at all the negativity the other working mums have encountered. People have been nothing but supportive of my decision to go back to work after 6 months. Perhaps they say something different behind my back, who knows?

meggyMegs your weekend of food sounds great to me!! I would make the most of eating out whilst you can as it's infinitely more tricky once you have a newborn! I remember DH and I used to have our "last" meal out - and then DD was 12 days overdue so we ended up having many, many "last" suppers - was worth it though!!

Re. getting baby into optimal position, keep doing the bum in air position, sit on a swiss ball and tilt your pelvis etc. Still plenty of time for baby to turn.

Ponymum - which buggy have you just got?

meggy - my ds was breech at 31 weeks, and then turned 3 times before 34 weeks! I don't think I really did very much at all to turn him around - he just decided he would!

csws It's the Baby Jogger City Mini double.

Ah yes, a good choice ponymum. There are places that have them in stock for next day delivery though!

Am at perkster's electric breast pump- also at meggymeg having a MW for a sister!

Am sat here wiggling stupid restless legs and dying a death from heartburn. Huge bruise on arm from bloods last week- I always find I bruise more and it is harder to get the blood when a HCA does it instead of a MW (sorry HCAs )

Am at hospital on wed for 4- yep count 'em- appointments, so a fun morning for me then! Am 30 wks on wed and planning to ambush talk to my consultant about changing my section date. Think I will write a list of all my reasons so I don't forget them! Have done NOTHING wrt to sorting out baby clothes, washing pushchair upholstery etc. Oh well

Another in dire straits re finances over here, I haven't worked ft since was made redundant 3 yrs ago. And poor DH has been made redundant twice in last 4 yrs, though has a stable job now but doesn't pay all that well. I have kept loads of stuff though, think the only thing I want is a new sling and a digital thermometer . From a practical point of view, not finding out the baby's sex this time was the best thing I could do, I have not been tempted to buy anything, had loads of offers of clothes etc. Have been on a slow and steady declutter since I was 5 wks and we decorated the lounge, just need to step it up a bit now!

Had a crummy weekend. Started with a bad friday where I dropped my lunch in a puddle, broke some glassware at work, and worst ran out of diesel. Had to get AA man to come and rescue me and take me to the garage. Note to self - must put diesel in the car when light comes on, not drive around for another 100 miles and then wonder why the car no longer goes. Sunday had REALLY sore cramps/stich like pains in left hand side of bump. If I didn't know better I would have thought I was in labour - had to actually breathe through each pain. But it was only one side (labour pains are symetrical) and babies are still wriggling fine so assume it was just stretching ligament pains. Then went to the pram shop to buy buggy, and got completely lost on the way. Both DH and I assumed the other knew where we were going. And then it was shut when we got there. Bugger. And DH has admitted that I whinge so much at the moment he's given up listening to me

So hopefully this week will be a bit better . Have got a 28 week midwife appt tomorrow. Don't know if they need bloods (probably not) but I hope I get some of your good experiences if they do

Hi All,

Just popping in quickly before lunch! Had a bit of a write off weekend, was knackered from the week and ds in a v strange needy/disobedient mood which i really couldn't be bothered with poor thing. Got an awful kind of rib pain in the night on Saturday which kept me awake for 2 hours - i can't really describe it but it was really horrid and of course i convinced myself i had gone into labour like you gibbering!! Slept really well last night though so hopefully a one off. gibbering hope yours was too - scary stuff. Reminds you that we don't have all that long now!!

Talking of sleeping, goodname dh and I now have separate duvets which is BRILLIANT. I can huff & puff and kick it off & move around as much as i like now without bothering him too much.

So laTrucha how'd the painting go? Did it keep their attention for long? I was amazed at the difference in attention spans between my ds who is 29 months & his cousin who is 26 months when we did painting the other day. I forgot how quickly they get distracted!! Remind me how old your dd is again?

mampam i wouldn't be at all happy about that, you are doing her a big favour which is not being reciprocated or even really acknowledged it seems! Definitely put your foor down next time.

perkster congrats!! Love winning things!

saucepan i get restless legs too - is such a nightmare - have you found anything that helps? I feel like such a freak jerky thing - got restless arms the other night too, was like some kind of strange puppet!!

Okay lunch is calling...

Hi All,

Sorry for my lack of recent posting. Hope everyone is well.

Re going back to work, I went back to work 5 days a week when DD was 9 months old. Everyone I knew outside work with kids either didn't return or went back 3 days a week. There were a lot of faces when I said I was going back 5 days a week. It has been a bit of a stuggle at times if DD has been ill etc but we have manged to work with it.

Just had my 28 week appointment (a week early) and all seems to be in order. Nice and reassuring as I haven't seen a midwife / doc for 11 weeks now.

Forgotten who asked about partying until the last min but when I was pregnant with DD we were due to go to friends on new years eve (I was a couple of days overdue). It was just a low key thing about 8 of us. Anyway, we never made it as I ended up going into labour and was off to the hospital by early evening .

Good afternoon everyone,

Gibbering Minimoo how scary! I don't feel well equipped enough to know the difference between the pains you described and labour, I know I would panic. Glad all seems well now anyway.

Thanks for the baby turning tips Monkey and csws, sounds like I'm worrying prematurely (typical). I do have a birthing ball so I'll add that to my things to do list and try and get a grip and realise I actually have nothing to worry about esp compared to what some of you ladies are going through at the mo.

I've started another hunt for baby gear. This time I'm looking for a changing bag that looks good but is suitable for DH. I've already bought mine, a brown leather number which he could carry at a push, but it does look quite feminine really. I have seen this from M&P which I LOVE but it's not in stock yet and I suspect it will be rather pricey when it does come in. Also seen this which again is way overpriced IMO. So what I'm really looking for is something similarly cool looking, but not £75! I've seen the dadgear ones and I'm not that keen, anyone got any other recommendations?

Thanks in advance

Apologies for self indulgent previous post, just needed to whinge. Will try to keep it to a minimum!

Minimoo, that was like me, I was awake on Saturday night as well with the pains. Seems to have gone completely now though. Hope yours have too.

Meggymegmegs, labour pains are different in everyone, but they seem to start off as bad period type pains and in my case were symmetrical (across both sides of back, and across lower uterus). This weekends pains were exactly like a stitch, on my left side from my ribs down the side of my tummy so I'm pretty sure were just stretching pains.

I really must get my finger out and buy some stuff. Must order the buggy, and I need a new nappy bag. At this rate the twins will be squeezed into DD's old (single) pram and I'll have the nappies in a tesco bag. Tis do-able, but not very glamourous!

Gibbering glad your pains have now subsided.

I also need to order a buggy, think I have finally decided what I want fits into the boot.

Hi all,hope everyone is well,please excuse my selfish post,its not that i dont read everyones,i just cant put them in order in my brain to respond,most annoying!
Things ok in Robbo household apart from MIL and GIL are 'distraught' because i am starting maternity leave on Tuesday,simply because they will noy be looking after DS2 twice weekly,they have really made DH feel terribly sad about it,and in turn we are rowing about it,i have been made to promise i will take him to see them every week (great) but still i am the bad guy. I admit i dont get on with MIl,this is because she was clearly pissed off when we told her i was pg again,and she also said she was relieved when DS2 was a boy because she doesnt like little girls (and as you know,this one is a girl). When MIL divorced her second hubby,he took their daughter with him and DH nor his mother have heard from her since,apparently this is fine because she was a 'hateful little creature' She is mid 20's now,and she was under 10 when they left. It is getting increasingly difficult for me to be respectful & polite to MIL,but i know i have to for DH. Any advice or voices of reason wouild be appreciated,sorry for the long whingy post ladies.

I don't think that I can manage advice or a voice of reason littlerobbo, but I can muster up a 'bitch' if that helps.

Minimoo - thanks for asking. Well, the 20 month-olds didn't paint for as long but it was fun and they certainly got stuck in. Some can bea bit nervous first time round so I was pleased. DD is 2.2. She could paint all day.

Sorry for not doing a proper catch up but I do need to ask a question.

Has anyone ahd any dizzy spells? I had two this morning. They were both within a reasonable time of breakfast, so it wasn't lack of food. I was also sitting down both times. I did phone the midwife as I was feeling sick after the second one and she told me to lie down for a while and phone back if I was still dizzy this afternoon. Fortunately DH was here as I screamed at him last night for taking on too much work and how tired I was. I have lain down but still feel rather breathless and not quite right, though not dizzy as yet.

Anyone else had similar. All my pregnancy books are in the loft and I'm definitely not going to google.

Baby is moving ALOT, BTW. But hten, he often does.

Sorry your MIL is being a nightmare LaT. Can DS not continue to go to them twice (or once) a week anyway? It would give you a break and a little you time too.

Not sure about dizzy spells. It might be due to high or low blood pressure, so is probably worth getting checked out by the MW if you can. Might also be low iron levels which would possibly explain the breathlessness and tiredness. If you are not feeling right it is probably worth getting it checked out.

As you can tell from the frequency of posts, I'm bored at work and the boss is away so lots of mumsnet time!

Hello ladies - haven't posted in months (things have been a bit stressful)
1st - DH is beiing made redundant a week before baby is due.
2nd - my work are going to try and use my maternity leave to manage me out after 8 years of working there, so have had to start grievance procedures.
3rd - DS1 is having problems at nursery - says no one likes him, wants to be his friend, play with him

So skint and stressed - but thankfully all is well health wise apart from S&D bug which everyone seems to have at the moment.The good news is I'm 30 weeks - that's 3 weeks past when my waters broke with DS1

Have't had a chance to read the posts, but hope everyone is well.

herewegrow: what buggy are you getting?
LaTrucha: I think Ginger is right - get it checked out, but sounds like low iron to me.

at littlerobbo MIL. Agree with CSWS LaT def worth getting checked out.

ELM really hope you have some good news soon. It's going to have to be the P&T sport.

Thanks for the advice. I'm feeling ok this afternoon but will see how it goes when I'm solo tomorrow. If it happens again, I'll go in and get checked out.

I think that was LiLRobbo's MIL, not mine. Mine is In Spain, so usually not too much of a problem.

LilRobbo - A friend on my Postnatal thread had a nightmare realtionship with her in-laws and has managed to improve it a lot. Shall I ask her advice?

Hi all, had a fairly boring weekend here. Visited DH parents and gran on Friday eve which is nice but not exactly exciting. Then on Sat we went for a walk with with sister and BIL which was ok until DH accidently hit me quite hard with a rugby ball. It was just on the back of my neck but I totally overreacted and called him nasty names and said he could have hurt the baby. This was quite mean as he felt bad about it anyway. I then chased him round the hill trying to kick him and telling him to stay still because I couldn't catch him! For some reason he actually stood still so I could hit hime. I then stormed of back to the car in tears and sulked until the rest came off he hill. By which time I was feeling a little embarresed and imature . Pregnancy seems to be making me just a little more emotional and irational than normal!
Had midwive appointment today (31 wks) and all is well. Baby is currently head down and growing well.
Gibberingginger or anyone else if you dont want to spend too much on a nappy bag try this one www.kiddicare.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/productdisplayA_2489_10751_-1_14631_105816_10001_ 14631
Its only £10 and it seems perfectly fine.
littlerobbo think you should def leave yr DC with the IL for at least one day. It would save you from having to spend time with them and keep them happy at the same time

Oops meant LittleRobbo. Glad your MIL is good though LaT!
I'm irrationally irritated by my MIL at the moment (since we are on the subject). She's a nice lady, and does loads for us so I'm a bitch to complain, but she's just not my sort of person. Normally I just let it wash over me, but unfortunately when pregnancy hormones get the better of me I do feel myself getting wound up by her. Just have to bite my tongue.

Will have a look Goodname at the kiddicare site. I'm just not into shopping for baby mode yet - maybe tomorrow after the 28wk appt I'll feel more urgency!

LittleR Not sure what I'd do in your situation. Sounds like you are in one of those 'damned if you do and damned if you don't situations. From what you've said, I too would find it hard to have any respect for my MIL.
I'll tell you about my MIL one day, too long a story to go into detail now. Fact of the matter is that neither MIL or FIL like me and have been quite nasty to me. As a result DH hasn't had anything to do with them for nearly 3 years but now they know I'm PG they want to make contact again and are even asking after me

Who was it with pain in their sides?? Sorry brain is having a mental block. Have had this the other day, although probably not to the same extent. Must be stretching and ligament pain like you say.

ELM Glad your past the time that your waters broke last time Sounds like you're having a time of it.
I'm beginning to feel like it's just one thing after another in this household. Out of the blue we've suddenly had a letter from solicitors representing our Electric company demanding 500 odd pounds. If I didn't respond immediately then they would get a warrant to enter our property and put a meter in . So I phoned up and basically the amount that we have been paying each month isn't enough but they hadn't told us it needed to be more .
So now they are demanding well over £200 a month which we simply cannot afford.
I just cannot deal with this right now

On a lighter note I've thought of a way to deal with our neighbour. I've been nosey noticed that on her kitchen side she has written a note to herself to remember to book her dog into the kennels in June. So she'll be asking us to look after the cat again then, so when she comes to the door to ask I'm going to say... "hang on a minute I'll just get my diary and write that in now because I'm ever so forgetful at the moment" I'm figuring that if she see's me writing down the specific dates she will be less inclined to try and extend it without asking us first.

What I find really funny about it is that in her house she has wall hangings with quotes from the bible and goes off to Christian retreats yet she comes to our doorstep and bareface lies about how long she is going away for

LaT I was breathless and having dizzy spell back along but I think it was the position of the baby and the position I was in. ie when in the car it was worse and once I thought I was going to pass out and really had to concentrate on breathing until baby realised that there just wasn't room for it to be in that position and shifted a bit.
It's not a nice feeling and I agree with the others to definitely get it checked out.

Gibbering sorry about your rubbish weekend.

goodname sorry but I've had a little chuckle to myself imagining you running around a hill trying to kick DH PG hormones definitely makes us all do some whacky things!!

Oh gosh, GG it sounds as if the vast majority of us are suffering from reduced inhibitions when it comes to irritating people. It's a bit sad when they're normally inoffensive people who wouldn't hurt a fly but somehow that just doesn't help, does it?

I'm sorry, Goodname, but I did actually laugh at your description of chasing your DH all over to give him a good kicking.

I also had a sudden and rather trivial row with my DH on Sunday - wanted to dispose of old (broken) chest of drawers as part of general clear out, DH didn't want to take it to the tip (prefers to recycle or fix things where ever possible) so I said 'fine, we'll do that but you are going to organise it' since I do not need another thing on my plate and had already bought the new chest, lugged it upstairs, shifted all the clothes into it and lugged the old one downstairs again. DH rather took the hump at this and started pointing out all the things he did do....anyway, you get the picture. It wouldn't have happened if we hadn't both been tired and griping and the upshot was we both went off and tidied something (DH rather more effectively than me, I must say) so a) we both feel better, b) we love each other again and c) we have a bonus clean garden and car! Should row more often really

Meggy I'm in the same boat (although not quite as far along as you). If you're looking for ideas to turn babies this is a pretty informative site, although some of the ideas (the speaking tube? ) do not make it past my b llsh t detector.

Dont worry about laughing at me chasing DH, I have since realised how funny it was and we had a good laugh about it together last night