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Star, Happy birthday to your DD Would love to help with colours, just give me a shout when you're ready Hope the dust settles quickly, can still remember when we had kitchen done, we ripped everything out from the ceiling to below floor level and started again, it was a nightmare for weeks after with all the dust.

Ses and Gruff, hooray for clothes

Hi Can't.

Weather is pretty dull and miserable here, we had a bit of a down pour lasting all of about 30 seconds earlier, was strange actually, it absolutely chucked it down, but was literally 30-40 seconds and then it was gone It was clear and sunny earlier on, DS1 asked if he could just take his hoody thing instead of his big coat and I nearly said yes, glad I didn't now!

Oooh meant to say, had first drive of new car yesterday and I can drive it!!! Feels like I've past my test all over again! 100000 times better than the Mondeo

Morning Tink More shopping? Do you ever stop?!!

i nat - me stop shopping never
glad car good
you are doing great with coursework

Morning all,

Haven't gone anywhere just don't often get online at the weekends.

Hope everyone had a good mothers day.

Have only quickly skimmed read what I've missed as you guys chat too much!

Gruff - yay for TTCing

Star - happy birthday to DD1

Deige - sorry you are unwell

Umm, can't remember anything else now damn it. Oh well, Hi everyone else

Well, I'm not having a great start to the week. DS woke screaming with his teeth at 4.30 and didn't really go back down properly again and is truly grumpy today and now I'm having some light (but red not brown) bleeding and dull period pains. Hmmm, not looking good on the pg front, had a feeling bean might not be sticking due to absolute lack of nausea. Spoke to MW this morning who has refered me to EPU but it could take them up to 24hrs to contact me apparently, so not much I can do here but wait it out.

Playing, sorry you facing this. It may not be as it seems though (I don't want to raise your hopes for nothing but...) I don't know if you'll remember but I had quite heavy red bleeding with DS3 at about 7 weeks, and obviously that turned out to be OK.

You have got choices now, either wait out the EPU appointment, go to A&E, or go private for a quicker scan. Just be prepared at 6-7 weeks there may not be much to see. Also it will be an internal scan.

I really hope everything is OK. I've had two MC's and the bleeding in DS3's pregnancy, so I know how scarey it is. I will be thinking of you.

Oh no, poor you Playing

sending sticky vibes to you and bean. I did have some spotting at week 6 with GC so I hope its just bean getting comfy in there and nothing more. will keep my fingers firmly crossed for you. also I didn't get nausea with GC til week 8. I know it could be the end, but it also might not be. just try not to worry until you know for sure

Afternoon. PLAYING you poor thing As you may remember, I went through a similar thing and sadly for me the outcome wasn't good. The odds are in your favour though, so hold on in there and keep talking to us. How many weeks pregnant are you?
NAT really good going on the assignment front - the tutor will be impressed! I am (in a parallel universe sort of way) also becoming obsessed by paint charts (and tile catalgues). My current obsession is the The Little Greene Paint company, with it 'heritage' colours and historical info about each colour , and also fired earth tile catalogue. Have a look online - great colour charts from fired earth, the above mentioned and also from a company called posh paints
TINKS does sound sensible about car seat - good restraint there!
Well feeling rough here, but well enough to function. Need to try some lunch now, first food in 2 days!

So sorry you're going through this Playing, I don't have any experience or wise words, but thinking of you and hope it turns out to be a false alarm.

Diege, Glad you're feeling a little better, always hard to know when to start eating again, do you feed the bug, or gain energy to fight it off? I've already got the Fired Earth ones and The Little Greene Paint one should be winging it's way to me as we speak! The FE one is like a bible! I love love love their colours, I've not used any of their paint before but a couple of the ID's I've been talking to have said they're really good quality.

DS2 has his obsession with Cars back, and DS3 is following in his tyre tracks footsteps... DS1's obsession was Nemo and Monsters Inc. At least they were good films!

Thanks guys, you are all so lovely

Officially I am 7+4 but am probably 7 or even 6+4. Should have paid closer attention to my cycle. I do remember you had a good outcome from bleeding Nat, so I know its not over till the fat lady sings but I'm doubtful of a positive outcome. Bleedings heavier now.

Spoken to the EPU and they say apt will probably be Weds morning and I cannot just turn up. Can't believe they build a brand new multi million pound fancy hospital in Portsmouth to replace the old maternity hospital and you still have to wait 48hrs for an emergency scan. Will just have to wait it out as I'm not going to pay for a private scan and really don't think it warrants A & E. Nothing they can do to stop it anyhow I suppose.

Think it may just be my turn for something to go wrong. I've got pg twice instantly and this is the first time anythings gone wrong, maybe it just wasn't meant to be.

Have you got someone with you Playing? Don't want to worry you, but if it is over, well, it can be very painful and seriously heavy bleeding.

FWIW, if you don't want to wait, go to A&E, it isn't unwarrentied at all, and if the bleeding gets especially heavy you'd be advised to.

If you think you may be up to a week behind the MW's dates, just obviously bear that in mind at the outcome of any scan.

Obviously you can take paracetamol if the pain get's worse, and a warm bath can help, other than that I've no more advice, there isn't much you can do but wait it out. I really would think about A&E though, 2 days is too long to wait, you're right, if it is over there is nothing anyone can do, but you'll save yourself 2 days of torture.

Good advice there from NAT, PLAYING. That's pretty rubbish about having to wait so long for a scan . As NAT says, if things do get worse A&E may well be your best option. Thinking of you xxx

oh Playing I am so sorry. Hope you are feeling ok xxx

please don't lose heart, my sis conceived DC2 not long after a MC. my DN is now 7. still hoping theres a good outcome for you.

Thanks for being so concerned! At the moment I am feeling pretty ok about it and quite calm actually. If it gets too bad I will go to A & E but otherwise I will wait.

I am alone right now but have told DH to come home as early as he can (doesn't normally get back til 7ish) and if things really do kick off I can phone my Mum (she is just round the corner) or one of a number of friends. I just don't want to right now as I haven't told anyone I am pg, so it will be a bit of a shock, but if I have to I will.

If I'm very lucky everything will be ok but I think its unlikely. But that is ok, mc is just part and parcel of having kids. No one wants to ge through it (and I am dreading the pain esp with DS around and really hoping I don't need a D & C) but it is always something I felt I would have to go through at some point if that doesn't sound too odd. If I have the 3Dcs I think I want then statistically I should have 1mc. Luckily for me though, so far I have not had any trouble getting pg so with any luck it shouldn't put the planned DC2 back too far.

I'm sure the loss will hit me more when I've had the scan and I know for certain its all over but right now I feel like if there's something not quite right with beany its better that it all ends now.

Playing you sound very rational, I hope you stay strong My mum had DB1, then a short gap then a MC. The following month she got pg with DB2 and a few years later had me. Apart from that 1 MC everything was easy. Not sure really why I'm telling you this really, just saying that even if it is the end for this beany, your chances are still very good for carrying on as normal next time.

Thanks Moosy, I'm sure I'll fall to pieces for a bit when I know its def over!

My mum also mc in her second pg and got pg straight away again afterwards with my brother and went on to have my sister as well a few years later.

Playing, I don't think any of what you've said is odd.

I know it's easier said than done, but try not to worry about the pain side of things, it may well not be very painful at all, my first MC wasn't much worse than a heavy period.

Hope DH manages to get back soon, just having him there will help you relax a little, you'll not be worried about DS.

Hi everyone, sorry been out with a friend today, really tired, and not with it, so not caught up properly yet. jus the odd thing ive caught goin on.
DIEGE sorry for the poorlies, hope it doesnt last too long.
PLAYING sorry to hear what your going through, and hope wednesday goes ok. ( sorry dont know hwat to say ) other than im sorry.
DS is still very clingy, i cant get anything done and feel like even when his dads around im the one doing everythin, gettin him ready for bed, calming him down, sorting his milk etc out. and whilst i was doing his milk, DS was screaming, And i mean screaming. and his dad really got me mad, as all he did was say to DS come on come here, he didnt get up of his bum to get DS :@ , and then i feel im shouting at him for little things. i just need time away to relax, and tht if you get me? its sooo hard when hes like this, and theres no1 to help out. he still had the rash this morning, but its kind of faded by bed time. ive been putting his cream on hes got for his eczema, as its only a mosturiser so wont do any harm i wudnt think. sorry for rant
hope everyone else ive missed is well.

MMM it's hard enough when there are two of you, so can only imagine how stressed out you must get at times on your own. I think you are doing a brilliant job, and often think when I read your posts what a lovely life you are giving ds. Rant away!
PLAYING, hope you're ok tonight - assume dh back now? Will be thinking of you x

thanks DIEGE it does get hard at times, but normally only when i have bad nights / days with M and im drained, Let alone 2 nights and now 2 days hoping tonight is better, getting a bath after the soaps, then heading off to bed, altho can never get to sleep for a while when i go to bed early. managed to get to asda today, and got DS some new lion pjs there very cute, and love them, and some new vests so that made me a bit happier them having his size, off to town tomoro again, hoping DS is alot better tomoro. wanting to do a little shopping for summer clothes, if theres any where selling them atm. trying to keep busy so im not shouting at DS for him being wingy, or feeling like i could fall asleep at any second.

Evening ladies,

Have attempted a catch up but got very behind so not been able to do proper one.

Wanted to say hello to Playing. Great to see you back Playing - have everything crossed for you - you never can tell with these things. Try to rest up (easier said than done with a little one...)

GBL - wanted to give you a shout out of solidarity to say we are going through the same. It just seems to be one bug after the other since A started nursery. Last week it was a vomiting bug which went on for seven days ..then it was tonsillitis for DH and me - not sure if that bug was from nursery or not but probably was. I too have had some genuinely moments thinking I am not sure if I can take another illness - it might break me.....

It has mainly been the neverending bouts of illness that have kept me off the thread - I just don't seem to have the time lately.

I really hope it is true that the illness thing improves - people keep saying it will but we are nearly a third of the way through the year and it does not seem to be abating.....

Sorry for the moan. Hope everyone else is well x

Playing - thinking of you. Hope you're having as relaxing evening as you can with DH. You sound v strong and v rational. Hope everything turns out to be ok ((((hugs))))

MMM - I agree with Diege. You do a fantastic job and DS is a real cutie

Star - happy birthday to DD!!!

I'm feeling a bit this evening but don't have anything major to feel about. I think I'm just finding it hard balancing wanting to progress and do well at work with not being too fussed about work because O is the only important thing.

SES thankyou think its made it harder not seeing any family since a week back sunday, so its just been me and DS. normally dont let it get to me, but it really has and dont know why think it may just be getting on top of me and all being a bit too much. hope u feel happier soon too SES
COSMO hope the bugs go soon. not good.

Hi Ses,

I find the work/home balance bit is very hard. You've not been back long have you? Don't be too hard on yourself- it can take a long time to get used to the change. I have been back (albeit) part-time since January and I am still finding it hard. Somedays I just want to jack the job in and stay home - others days not...

Hello Cosmo and MMM!

Cosmo - this is my third week back. I think it's because today I found out that one of my colleagues was being fast tracked for promotion. In the past, that's always been me and I've missed out as the course started before I confirmed my return. I can be quite competitive and feel wierd that it's not me being pushed forwards this time.
Then I feel bad as I think I should be focussed on being a mum at the moment and my career can be progressed later.
Can't win!
I also agree with what Diege was saying about working 4 days a week. I'm doing exactly the same as I was before ML except now I only have 4 days to do it in!
I wouldn't change things though as I do fill my Wednesdays with "O stuff"

I think we need a sick bay again on the wagon at the moment.
Cosmo - hope you all are bug free soon.