Are you on the wagon?

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Sorry x posts MMM, hope you manage to get out soon

Right, got 2 nappies to change and a boy trying to escape his highchair by sheer force, think I'd best set him free!

wow mmm DS sounds so contented! GC would never just go to sleep like that!! Beach sounds nice

i dont even see how he could have fallen asleep, but hes done it a couple of times now, always has been a contented baby
gunna have a walk along the prom soon, just get out, and when DS wakes can then go down onto the beach wherever we are at no bucket and spade tho so just a run about for him with his ball.
NJ i can just imagine the trying to get out of the highchair. DS trys is best most of the time.
hope it warms up for you soon, its warm here with sun out

we have sold cotbed which is great so have money for shoes
will get shoes anyway they only start in a 3f for proper outdoor walking shoes

cheers nat going to get them have ordered in the following to collect in store

love these r my fav so cute

www.clarks.co.uk/find/productfamily-is-firstshoes/enduses-is-walking/tube-is-girls/size-is-_3infant/ product-is-20333130

www.clarks.co.uk/find/productfamily-is-firstshoes/tube-is-girls/product-is-20338762

www.clarks.co.uk/find/onsale-is-onsale/gender-is-girls/product-is-20333517

www.clarks.co.uk/find/productfamily-is-firstshoes/size-is-_3infant/product-is-20338761

not so keen on buckles on shoes

yan for car nat

it is freezing here 2 sick of it!!!!!!

Hi all,

sorry to moan and run yesterday, we headed out for lunch with the NCT girls then had a friend over later in the afternoon. I had a brilliant day with Caitlin after all that - it's just that first hour or two in the morning that I really struggle with after a bad night. Once I get going I'm fine. Thanks for all the support and advice - I don't think it is teeth but she seems very fidgety and restless so it could be a phase now she has started moving more . Last night was rough again but DH was home until 9 so he let me lie in which is much easier.

Kayz - sorry that you and DH have seperated but I'm glad you are both agreed on the best solution for you all. Remember we are all here for you if you want to chat.

Congrats Playing

Diege - hope everyone is feeling better today!

Star - yah for improved sleep and walking. Hope she doesn't turn out to be wheat intolerant - is it something they can grow out of ?

Ses - move sounds both exciting and scary. I don't know much about Oman - we have a couple of family friends who live in the middle east and they love it over there and have made lots of new friends but I know the 'lifestyle' IYKWIM is very different in different countries so I don't know how easy it is to get to know other families in Oman.

Hello . Things settling down here and J not been sick today so far! Has been VERY hard work changing cot 3/4 times in night etc ect - had forgotten what it's like!
Quick catch-up - PLAYING wonderful news . There are 16 months between dd1 and dd2 and it's the best gap (for me) of the 4 of them. I think because I was still so much in the baby zone that I really didn;t feel as if I had double the work - just more condensced if that makes sense?
SES wow bit change there if dh gets the job (and if you decide to go). Is he keen on going himself? Friends I know who've worked there for a few years (mainly nurses) have had a ball, but then they were single...what's your gut feeling?
NAT did The Package arrive?
TINKS shoes deliberations sound good! Ordered a few more bits from Boden this morning - hooded top for ds, exchanged dd2's trousers for a bigger size, and got dd3 purple spotted jogger and coordinating T. All spent up now till payday!
KAYZ so sorry to hear your sad news I think you were gave it your best shot though and it is good that you can feel so positive xx
Hello to everyone else, I know I've missed loads

back from a long 2 hour walk along the prom. DS didnt seem to like walking much, but loved siting in his buggy, watching all the dogs / people go by, and looking out to the water. and people playing on the sand. maybe by summer he will be alot more happier with walking outdoors. its all abit wierd feeling on their feet isnt it.
RUGBY sounds like u had a good day yesterday good to get a lie in after bad nights isnt it.

diege - ohh more boden bits

hi mm - day sounds good

i very tired here!! it is getting dark outside an i am cold again!!

have to go and get dd1 from school soon

hi rugby

Tink, the first linked ones are gorgeous!

Rugby, glad you had a nice day yesterday

Diege, pleased DS is feeling better, and no, no package, I knew it wouldn't be today, just hoped! Almost fell over leapfrogged DS2 though when I heard the letterbox go for the normal post, which is especially silly since I know I've got to sign for it, so they wouldn't just post it anyway Poor lad, y'know in cartoons when someone whizzes past someone and they spin round? That was DS2! He didn't know whether to laugh or cry, or hide!

MMM, sound's like a lovely walk, am sure by the summer you'll not be able to hold him back!

I am gearing up very slowly to go and get DS1 from school via the shop, have a desparate need for galaxy! Think I might nip and get a proper coffee, this instant stuff isn't helping and our espresso machine is still packed up in the garage. Was racking up and I've had about 7 hours sleep since Sunday, no wonder I'm feeling a bit watery I don't know what watery is either, but it's how I feel!

Hi everyone.

I knew once I came back I wouldn't be able to get off here!

Kay - I didn't see your post earlier. I'm really sorry to hear your news but you need to do whats right for you and the boys. Really glad the split is on friendly terms, think that will make all the difference for the kids.

Deige - hi, glad DS is better. Glad to hear you got on so well with such a short gap, I'm gathering and making mental notes of all the positive stories and ignoring the negative ones!! Actually I didn't really think of it as that strange but even the gp gave me a "your brave" sort of look when I went in yesterday and told her.

Nat - some this don't change, been away for so long and you're still getting madly excited about packages, I love it . Oh and you're right there is no ideal or right age gap, it is a case of what works for each of us. I think I would rather big or small and the way things are in my life right now small seemed the most sensible option.

MMM - sounds great. Nothing like a nice long walk.

Tink - I'm having shoe issues here as well with DS. I want to get him proper crusing shoes, especially now so he can get down on the ground outside but his feet are too small still.

Rugby - sounds like you had a fun but busy day yesterday. I'm sure the sleep will get better, most things seems to be just a phase, at least DH gave you a lie in!

nat - dont know how u r alive on so little sleep.

playing - it is annoying isnt it when there feet r too small!!

luckily bracken was just big enough for cruising shoes to keep her feet warm in december she doesnt go outside in them

both my girls have small feet!!

glad i want for the walk when i did, as its all clouding over now, so gthering it won be as warm anymore. was roasting when i was out. and was a nice walk never been tht long on just a walk before, so was nice for the both of us. got a very wingey DS atm, altho the past 5 mins hes stoppped. was led on the couch watching tele and he fell asleep, so i ut him down, but within 2 mins he was awake and at my feet again, so had more cuddles n he was jus playing, so i left him to it, he doesnt want to go to sleep, and dont want to put him in his cot at this time as he wont wake up till gone 5, so wont sleep tonight.

Playing, oh but this is an extra extra extra special package, it contains the rest of my life in it! I've enroled on a diploma course that will lead to a degree course (that inturn leads to the BA Honours degree) in about 6 months time, by the time I've done the degree/s DS3 will be starting school, and I will be a career woman (I can't say that often enough, everytime it gives me shivers up my back!) In case you missed it, I am eversoslightlymadexcited!

Tink, DS3 still hasn't had a single pair of shoes, I just find them a complete PITA TBH, so until he is walking properly I'll not be bothered (though he deffo takes after DS1 and has huge feet)

MMM, sometimes the fresh air knocks them out, he probably just wants to chill out man

Oh god that reminds me, DS2, anyone familar with Dora? The "Swiper, no swiping! Swiper, no swiping!" "Oh maaaaaan" bit in the song, now remember his speech isn't great so he is probably at the level of a 2 year old, he sings it almost word for word, actions and everything, the 'maaaan' bit is absolutely hilarious, everytime he does it I end up in stitches, he never get's to actually watch Dora because I am constantly asking him to do it again! Ahem, anyway.... thought I'd share. As you were.

Arghh NAT I have been thinking it's Friday all day , hence the parcel frenzy!!!Know exactly what you mean by 'watery'
MMM, difficult when they don;t know what to do with themselves...not too long before bedtime hopefully!
PLAYING, don;t think 21 month gap is that unusual...all this wincing etc from gps doesn't help though when you're still geting things straight in your own mind You will be more than fine (plus you get to buy a phil and teds )
Friend at school today with 7 day old baby boy - made ds look like a lumbering toddler...Have to say it did give the old ovaries a twang

hes now fine playing after having a biscuit, and ive put tea on so we can eat have baths and get ready for bed before his dad comes round to see him, thats if he doesnt fall asleep bless him. hes really tired, but didnt give up the fight when i tried. so now he has to go till bedtime no matter what as its wayyy tooo late for him to sleep now.

afternoon

nat bracken is walking all the time indoors

Now I am proper cream crackered, was starting to lose the will to live, or at least stay awake, so I've gutted the kitchen, and cleared up all the toys and got everything ready for a good hoovering, only now all the stuff is out of the kitchen (the bin, the erm... what's it called? the thing on wheels that holds wine water bottles and veggies and the not yet used kitchen rolls and, for now, made up party boxes, shit I am tired! That thing anyway....) is in the dining room because the floor is wet in the kitchen, so can't hoover till it's dry, but what's the betting by the time it's dry, I won't be arsed hoovering?!

Heading for a chinese methinks, in fact might be as well leaving the hoovering till they've had dinner.

DH thinks he might make it back but it's going to be laaaaate, so he'll get something to eat when he stops for a break. They've booked him a job in Manchester tomorrow morning at 7 o'clock, he'd have to leave here at 6, that's if he does make it back here at all, they actually thought that after leaving the house at 4.30 this morning, and either getting back here 1-2 am, or coming from Glasgow he's going to be in Manchester at 7 o'clock and for DH, do you know what? I can't wait till I am working, just to be able to take some of the pressure off of him, it's not fair at all at the moment.

Anyway, sorry for the rant Going to check the floor, can't sit down any more!

Sorry Tink, x posts, I know bless her! M's standing with out holding on, cruising, he can do roly-polys(!) but not walking yet, just like his brothers!

It's a kitchen trolley BTW

Evenin' all.
Congratulations Playing! I think 21 month gap sounds fine. Mine are 2.5 years apart, but my brother and I were 17 months apart and my Mum said that was fine too. You only know what you're used to after all. How exciting - is this officially our first wagon sibling? (I mean, second wagon baby to a Wagoner?)

Well, Thursday is the evening DH and I are both in together (apart from Sats and Suns). DD is in bed (but rubbish bedtime feed because she only had 50mins nap at nursery today , so she'll wake up in about 30 mins and want some more to take her through until...?), DH is reading DS stories - which is a novelty. For past few months DS has always wanted me to read his stories even when DH is home, but I guess because I took this children to my Mum's last weekend that DS feels he hasn't seen DH this week really.

So, anyway, point of story, DH and I are sitting down to talk tonight . I need to get my head round whether or not we're going to have DC3 and what that means for me work-wise - staying where I am, looking for part-time nearer home, giving up work to be a SAHM (which I'm not at all sure we could afford, but we might be able to try).... So, am excited at the thought of planning the next couple of years out (I am such a control freak planner!)

Nat - tomorrow you should get your paperwork - yay!!!

Kayz - so sorry that you and DH have decided to split, but glad that you have reached this decision amicably. Really hope it works out for you both and the boys. Thinking of you.

MMM - walk sounds lovely and your DS just sounds so gorgeous.

Diege - sorry for sickness with DS. Hope he is fully recovered now and the DDs don't get it.

Ses - wow, what a lot going on for you and DH. Like Gruff I have a friend who moved to Oman a year or so ago and she loves it out there, but then she doesn't have children or partner, so is different. But, one of my NCT friends (from 2nd time round) just moved to Jordan last week with her DH and their 2 children. Got an email from her yesterday to say that they are settling in well, children have taken it all in their stride, have found soft play places, etc. Think Gruff's suggestion of starting a thread on MN Living Overseas is a great idea. Also, am happy to ask my friend what ex-pat community is like and if she has friends who are over there with children what their experiences are.

Well, had dreaded first call from nursery this afternoon - DS had temp of 38.5, so I left work straight away and said they could give him calpol. So, picked him up and he's full of beans, no different to when I normally pick him up and has been same at home

Rugby - glad you had a good day with DD yesterday and got lie-in today.

Right, sorry for those that I've forgotten. Oh, by the way, I don't think I'm any busier than any of you and certainly less busy than some, I obviously just manage to make my life sound chaotic and manic (what was that wagon word? Hectotic!!)

STAR sorry for your dreaded call from nursery, strange that he been fine since yu got him, but lucky too as you know hes not unwel
hope the talk goes well and you hear what you want to
in a wierd mood tonight, after DSs dad coming round, and not even speaking to me as if id done something wrong which i havent so done know whats wrong with him, but just wish he didnt take it out on me.
just watching the soaps, and going to get an early night. in need of a night out but hey. wont happen for a long time.

Good morning (am almost yodeling!)

I had 6 hours sleep last night hoorayyyy!!!

My stuff is getting closer, it'll even be in the same village hoorayyyy!!!

It's FRIDAY hoorayyyyy!!!

Star, hope you had a good outcome last night? Hope DS stayed well?

MMM, hope he didn't upset you too much, some men can be utter twunts at times Hope your early night paid off, bet you needed it after that walk!

Right, got DS1's lunch to do, then I must order the food shopping else when my stuff comes it won't get done and my cupboards/fridge/freezers consist of 3 bananas (that are looking decidedly sorry for themselves), 2 apples, half a pint of milk, ice cubes, and a load of tins that we never seem to use, and not a lot else! Why is it sometimes everything just seems to go at once? It was only on Tuesday that DH said he thought we'd make it to early next week before having to shop, then all of a sudden, we've nothing in...

I know I am warbling, but if I don't at least try to consentrate on something else I might just burst!

IT'S D DAY!!!!!!!!

morning everyone.
NJ u excited by any chance haha, hope the post man doesnt come too late, and hold u off even longer.
early night did some good, but was awake at 4 with DS screaming as hed got his leg stuck in the bars on his cot and couldnt get it out, and then i was awake at 6.40 anyway. been awake since then.
dont think im doing anything today, doesnt look so warm out, and no money. so its rubbish.

Shopping's done, house is as tidy as it's getting, kid's are settled, what the hell am I going to do with myself?

MMM, it was lovely and sunny earlier but it's really clouded over, wouldn't be surprised if it actually rains today, can't remember the last time it did that!

I keep looking out the window, postie has to come into view at some point, neighbours will think I'm a right nosy curtain twitcher!

I am going to get my book, got to page 217 last night, trouble is I could barely concentrate on it so will probably have to read through it again!

theres breakthrough of blue sky, but yesterday it was all clear, and ye there hasnt been rain for while now has there think im off into town with a couple of friends, not that i want to as got no money, but its something to do.