Are you on the wagon?

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Morning

OK, who had their first on the wagon, and who pops in every now and then? BB? Cosmo? Who ever it is is going to be in trouble if they leave it very long to come and tell us!! It is very exciting, the second gen on the wagon!

Tink, hooray for getting money for shoes

MMM, it's OK, you've got one more shot to save us some heat, car still wasn't ready Looking likely for tonight now, but I wouldn't hold my breath!

Gruff, will repeat, I was 9 days late before I got a BFP with DS2, so there is time yet! Hope DS is feeling better today

Moosy, DH has got his on the 22nd, I am hoping he won't be too bad, he is having the new type one that means he can go back to work after 2-3 days, so if the heeling is that quick then it can't be too bad!

Managed about 4 hours last night on and off, feeling like a zombie this morning, was hoping now I know when it's coming that I'd have slept, but nope. Am feeling decidedly grumpy actually, I am still bleeding, going to give it till Saturday and then stop the pill, am all stuffed up in my head, throat feels like it's had boiling vinegar poured down it, and I didn't have a shower yesterday (I know it's yuk, ran out of time yesterday morning so thought I'd have a nice soak in the bath last night when the kids were in bed, but DS3 didn't go to sleep till gone 10, very unusal for him, and by then I was falling asleep, anyway....) so I feel all mucky and yuk. In fact had best go and get a shower now before I run out of time again!

See you all in a bit x

Hello there,

AF is here and excrutiating period pain. had a awful night. GC only woke up twice but had to dose him up each time and get him back off to sleep, which took a little while, but then I took AGES to go back to sleep both times and therefore I am knackered and in pain - not a good combination. I am pretty disappointed that I am not pg as I had got my hopes up, however we aren't really ready for DC2 yet so it is for the best really.

Anyway, re: the pg wagoner, I have messaged her to tell her to come and let everyone know the good news. I hope she does. I don't think I should say who it is without consent...

NJ - sorry for your bad night too. zombie is def a good description of how I am feeling!

Think its a good idea to stop that pill Sat, poor you.

Morning all

Come on girls - have a look at some 'relevant' threads.... Took me under 5mins to work it out!

Gruff- shame it's not you
Sorry to hear that GC is poorly. Was he any better last night? Thanks for you kind words about my mothering techniques - and everyone elses. I am much more relaxed about it now.

I love having MN as my source of info- think the others use babycentre which is clearly very inferior !!!

Moosy- nothing majorly contraversial from a MN perspective really- cloth nappies, BLW, breastfeeding beyond 6mths, rearfacing carseats, refusing to be the same as everyone else - I wouldnt be doing any of this stuff (except the nappies) if it wasnt for the Wagon and MN. !

Realised that Fizzy is your DD3s nickname- it's great. Where is Sorky these days?
I was amused about the fuss made regarding the snip. I think its the least the partner can do after we've done childbirth!

Star- sorry I missed you yesterday. Sorry to hear that DS isnt so settled at nursery. Hope you find a good solution. I'd be interested in hearing about nanny solutions. I think we will do that if/when we have another one (promise Im not the one wiht the BBFP!)

Tink -

Hi Gruff- sorry for the bad night and pains.

for not being PG too. I know how its weird to realise you arent preg even when you dont really want to be. Faxing a hot waterbottle and brownies...

x

morning everyone, sorry about all the no sleepers. its awful.i had it all last week but on track i think now, altho last nigt DS decided at 4.15 he would like to shout and talk to himself. probably woke the whole street up haha.
its looking sunny out again, weather its warm / cold with it is another question will have to see when i take DS to 'little angels' at 10.
i also love the H&M boys clothes DS has had a lot of outfits from their. altho not been for a while with having no money spare for clothes im also feeling withdrawal symptoms too.
next clothes shop i will do, will be for spring/summer clothes.

ohh i wonder who it coulkd be exciting

shame not you gruff sprry for af pain that is horrid and not much sleep

nat - sorry for ur not sleeping and feeling ill!!!!!!!

ginger - i would order the 1-1.5 year coat think that is the smallest they do have ordered that size for my dd2 and she is nearly 14 mnths but petite and long.

hope ladies have good days

we r off to music with mummy in a min

it is so cold today feels colder then yesterday!!!!!!!

well done GBL at detective work! thanks for brownies yum! I am feeling a bit better now as am dosed up on paracetemol and had hot bean bag thing. its pretty hard with GC being ill too, DH was away last night aswell. I rang him just before 7am this morning to let him know how much I was suffering. poor DH.

have fun at little angels MMM

have fun at music with mummy Tink

GBL - I meant to say I miss out meets at the bridge aswell! hurry up and get ttcing woman and we can bust you out of work once more and recommence!

Gruff - think I have just found the thread . Sorry for AF .

Tink - enjoy music with mummy

MMM - enjoy little angels and I'm glad DS is sleeping better.

DD had an awful night again last night . I'm at my wits end. She went to bed at 7.30 then woke at 10 but I settled her again, she had a feed at 12am and then at 2am she woke up again and would only stop crying if she was holding my hand - it sounds cute but by 2.30 she was still wailing every time I moved my hand. I left her to cry at that point (5 mins at a time) but it took until 4 for her to go back to sleep and she woke again at 5 for a feed. I'm so tired . Sorry for moaning but I just don't know what to do. Every time we try something new - dream feed, letting her cry etc - she sleeps better for 2-3 nights but then over the next few nights she wakes more and more frequently and takes longer to settle. I end up feeding her just to get a bit of sleep even though I know she's not really hungry . What I wouldn't give for 6 straight hours of sleep.

I also really want to start cutting down on breastfeeding now she is almost 6 months but she won't take the bottle/cup and I'm not sure I can force it by refusing to feed her until she takes the bottle (as people have suggested) - it seems hard to let her cry at night and all day too . I feel bad because I want to give up breastfeeding for my sake not hers - I'd just love to be able to have some time away from her and my parents are dying to have her for a day. As much as I love her a day to myself just to relax (and sleep!) sounds great.

Sorry for the moany post, just feel a bit crap this morning. I need to remember she is a very happy healthy baby so I can't be doing that badly.

Rugby

I am sorry that are feeling so rough and down. A broken night (or several!) is enough to drive us mad I think. This will pass, although it hard to think that now...

I'm sure I read that there are developmental changes around this age that can lead to upset sleeping etc... or could it be teeth?

I know you want to cut down the BFing but maybe thats what she needs at the moment? I'd be tempted to feed as much as you can during the day (I had periods of feeding every 2hrs during the day around the 5 to 6mth mark). Once I resigned myself to it we all got on better as she stopped crying what felt like all the time.

Maybe you'd have better luck with getting her onto a bottle when she is more settled in general.

Sorry this is all obvious stuff really that you are probaly already doing. Im just thinking outload really. SOrry I cant be more help.

Wagon brownies passing up to Rugby, assuming gruff didnt eat them all ..

Im in a meeting and should be listening but MN is much more interesting.

rugby - it is so hard when u havent had much sleep.
hopefully she will settle ginger has some great advice

we enjoyed music with mummy
then pooped to tesco have bought myself an easte egg
having half for lunch pudding rest is in car so i am not tempted also bought a baguette for lunch
it is so cold hate it

Have found the 'thread' and know who the wagoner is.... she's been away for a good while now- it'd be nice if she popped back in!!

Have been to DS's mothers day assembley this morning, then stopped in at DH's nanny's on the way home. She's 96, and i think she thoguht she was related to me not DH.... Normally she thinks i'm a new wife every time!! She remembered we had DS, but completely forgot about DD1... poor little lady.

DD2 is currently asleep on the living room floor, she must have been worn out with the mornings events!!

heya again, didnt end up going to 'little angels' been sorting out DSs clothes and toys, as theres way too many. and nowere to put them all. need a big toy box i think. DS is having a nap, so got quite alot done. jus feel lazy now. still in ma pjs too, so not good haha.

Heello!

I have been on the phone all morning (bad mummy) first my sister and then my mum...

DS just gone for a nap.

well done on those who've guessed! I did message her on FB and she replied and I think she might be coming to post soon

GBL - naughty naughty not listening - LOL. I messaged you on FB by the way

Tink - I had an easter egg 2 weeks ago. DH bought them early for easter - big mistake...I devoured it in one sitting

I really better go and do something useful...like sort my life out! argh! trying to decide what to do about working. thinking about going to go back to childminding for a while so I can do it with DS in tow but not sure...hmmmmm

Rugby, sorry for bad night's sleep. Totally agree with all that GBL said. 5-6 months is a really typical time for sleep regression. I felt like I was tearing my hair out with DD and it does feel like you are chained to her if bfing. It really won't be many more months before you are much more free to do other things once she is weaning well. You might also find it easier to get her to take a bottle from you once she is getting food from another source on a regular basis. I found that once I started weaning DD and was giving her a cup of water with food, she was happier with the whole concept of being separate from me (let's just not go onto the whole bottle thing as she still won't take one in place of a breastfeed, but that's just me and I'm sure your DD will - she has before right?!)

It will improve as she crosses the 6 month mark, but totally agree that the sleep deprivation is the worst thing ever. Have you contemplated feeding her lying down for the middle of the night feed as that might get you both a bit more rest? I have reverted to this a few times with DD when she has been at her worst with sleeping and have still managed to get back on track with putting her in her cot between feeds afterwards. E.g. this weekend I had really bad stomach cramps during night, so instead of feeding her in the chair, I just took her into bed and we co-slept (although helps that I was at my Mum's and DH was at home, so there was no-one else to share the bed with us). But, it might not be something you want to do - just thinking out loud really.

Well, I know that whether I trumpet our success or not, it won't have any bearing on whether we get a repeat performance, but, last night, DD slept...

from 6.50pm to 7.25am with just a feed at 5am!!! Hurrah, hurrah, hurrah!!

She did have an additional feed at 7.30pm but only because she was so tired at bedtime that she fell asleep before she could finish her feed (she only had 50 mins nap yesterday), so that doesn't bother me. She did wake at 11.40pm but when I picked her up, she had a little burp, snuggled back in and then I just rubbed her back a bit when she went back in her cot and she went off.

Really feels like a breakthrough but is good and bad - good because it seems like cutting out the wheat from her diet (is now 5 days since she had any) has made her much more comfortable, but bad in that I really did wish she wouldn't have any more food intolerances. Ah well, off to nutritionist next week, so hopefully should get a clearer picture. She is not doing her back arching any more and hardly any wind whereas last couple of weeks she was trumping all the time, especially while feeding.

So, I may get my true sleep through the night without even a wake for wind by her 1st birthday on Monday - hurrah, hurrah, hurrah!!

Ooh, Tink - easter eggs. I have bought DS and DD a dairy free one each from Sainsburys and think I might get to eat all most of DD's as she's a bit young for choccie! Yum, yum... making me drool on my keyboard at work now.

I've had a hunt for the thread, but can't find it - obviously I'm not going to pass my detective exam today! Hope she comes on soon to announce.

MMM - your DS sounds just too cute.

Btw, on topic of changing mind about whether to have another DC I can totally relate to that and I think it relates to hormones. At some times of the month, usually round about ovulation and just before due on, I get really broody and at others am not - suspect it is those dastardly hormones trying to convince me to ttc at my most fertile time and then trick me into thinking I might be pg just before my body confirms I'm not

Right, really should get back to work!

cant seem to see any posts

hi all

sst - ye for sleep

i have ordered in some shoes for bracken to collect in store must be mad have ordered in size 3f she was only a 2.5f about 3 weeks ago. if she still measures a 2.5f not sure what to do.
she is currently in clarks cruising shoes a 2f
dont know whether to get some anyway for when she is a 3f sure it wont be long
really want her to get some shoes to go outside in as she is walking everywhere indoors and running everywhere
really like the red patent velcro too with lights have ordered them in 2

Hi!
Ds has nasty bug so haven't had chance tp post these last few days. Just wanted to say hello, and will be back tomorrow fingers crossed when he's improved!
Can't work out for the life of me who the pregnant wagoner is

Hi all. Been a long long time since I posted in here. Been avoiding posting (or surfing that often) on MN as its so damn addictive that I know I would get hooked, spend half my life on here and have social services banging on my door! I do still have a little peek sometimes to check you are all ok though and of course spy on you on fb.

It is nice to be missed and outted!

So yes, I got a BFP just over a week ago so technically I'm 6+6, although its probably a few days less than that. We're still in a little bit of shock as it happened very quickly again and DS has only just turned 1. Still, a small gap will be nice if this bean sticks but as I'm not even feeling sick yet I am being very cautious. This time in my pg with DS I was being very sick.

Gruff - thanks for your email it was lovely. Very sorry to hear about AF. I had a long 40 day cycle Dec/Jan and even though we had been safe when AF eventually came it made me realise that I did want another one. Its really what started me ttcing again! Sure you don't want to think about it, better than finding a job!?

So, what I've missed on the wagon? How is everyone? All well I hope and enjoying your wonderful DCs.

Right, Mum has just brought DS back and he won't leave me or the laptop alone so I had better go. Maybe I'll pop in more often now I have to take time to rest

Wonders will never cease, seems like the car is ready, thought it was a figment of imagination, mind you, we've still got to go and actually see it yet!

DH is off to Scotland tomorrow, overnight, hate it when he's not here, I know it sound's all feeble and girly, but I can't sleep when he's not there, and with me not barely sleeping anyway, it's going to be horrible However, at least when I get up on Friday it'll be D Day (erm..... that's delivery day! )

Gruff, sorry it's not this month Hope you've managed to keep dosed up and that DS has improved some?

Rugby, great advice from everyone, nothing to add but my sympathies I'm afraid.

Tink, good going on the shopping - again

Star, hooray for more sleep!

Diege, doesn't sound like much fun Hope he is feeling better soon, and that your DD's don't follow suit. Did you sort a trampoline out?

It's so quiet, DS1 is on his laptop, DS2 is asleep, DS3 is playing with some wooden bricks, telly is off, music is off, all I can hear is the tap tap tap of the keyboard keys and the birds singing, and now I'm going to ruin it all by getting them ready to go to get the car. Think I might let DH go and get it on his own. Not so sure that's a good idea actually...!

hi playing great to hear from you and congratulations

i havent actually bought shoes nat have just oredered them into store to collect in a 3f she was a 2.5f 3 weeks ago so if she still is wont beable to get them
praying that she has gone up
ye for car nat

hi diege my shopping buddy poor ds

nat - i am the same when dh away to keep hearing creaking in the house etc and now r rom is downstairs 2

Sorry Playing, x posts...

Huge congrats! You're very brave!

Tink, she'll grow into them at some point, I wouldn't worry. And with DH being away, it's not so much hearing noises etc. I just hate going to bed on my own, I like snuggling with him And it's not the same watching Eastenders without him there moaning about having to watch it, and then 2 mins later asking what Phil just said, why would he want to know if he doesn't want to watch it?!

I have let DH go get the car, DS2 has woke up in a mood as per usual after a sleep in the day, and thinking about it, we wouldn't be back till late and DS1 is obviously at school tomorrow.

mite get them anyway then sure it wont be long till she is in them
was going to get brown ones in the sale but luv red patent ones
i know what u mean about being on your own in bed it is horrid

Aaargh! This working really does get in the way of MN
Will try and do a good catch up post but sorry if I miss anything...

Playing - CONGRATS
Glad you've found your way "home" to the wagon, do keep in touch if you get chance!

Gruff - nothing like a good morning on the phone! How are you mum and your sister?
Sounds like you were quite disappointed not to be pg this month. Has this made you rethink when you will ttc?!

GBL -
I've learnt to say things like "This is what works for us. Being a good mum is just about working out what works for that individual child and mum."
It's what I actually believe too I've had such an easy time of DS being happy to go with BLW and BF (once his tongue tie was sorted) that I do wonder whether DC2 (if hopefully there is a DC2 at some point!) will be so straightforward!

Diege - poor you and poor DS Sounds rotten. Hope he gets well soon

Rugby - as you know, O has had his sleep struggles. I agree with Star that I've often found it easier to bring him into bed so that we both get some sleep. Once he's over his teething/cold/separation anxiety/growth spurt or whatever it is, he normally reverts back to going in his cot fine.
It is the worst feeling though and so frustrating when you know they can sleep better.

Star - great news about improved sleep and walking! Clever girl!

Cant - assembly sounds lovely

Nat - yay for D-day soon How exactly will you greet the postman?!

Tink - good shopping

Moos - hello!!!

Gotta go and get DS to bed but will post an update with my news later hopefully

I could be wearing a pair of handcuffs and a feather boa, nothing is going to stop me answering the door on Friday!

(Not that I would be caught dead in handcuffs and a feather boa. Well, at least not during day light hours, that all went out of the window when DS1 got old enough to notice! LOL)