June-ior middleweights - fighting on through the second trimester (Due June 2010)

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Here we go ladies - I'll C&P the stats in a tick. Don't forget to add the gender on if you find out at your scan

Evening all.

Is anyone plannng a homebirth?
I was speaking to a friend this weekend who's having one soon- and she was told if you go 5 days over your date, you're not allowed one due to possible complpications. ( I forget what now).
I'm in shock - both my 2 other children were 11 days over and as it is I've been given dates between 30/5 and 2/6 for this baby. Surely not many babies come within 5 days.

Any thoughts?

Gina dont worry i'm sure all will be fine,really hope you get scanned today to ease your mind.

I have had a terrible weekend,really really bad row with DH,the worst in ages,i was so upset and still am,and i've got scan today to find out what the bloody hell my 'lumpy placenta' is doing,or not doing. My sister is coming with me because DH said it was impossible to have the day off Sorry for the moan ladies,i know things could be a lot worse,i just feel very sad and hormonal.

Hope everyone else is feeling ok

big hugs litllerobbo, i rowed mith my dh too, so there must be something in the water. Will be avidly waiting to hear about your lumpy placenta; i am sure they will put your mind firmly at rest.

To all the London ladies on the thread; just read an online article about Denise Van Outen organising a walk for pregnant women in aid of sports relief in March. There wasn't too much more detail, however maybe that would be quite a nice thing to do for the meet up that has been discussed before? Of course with lots of cake afterwards! any thoughts?

CSWS I can't remember, its only a vague recollection of reading it. Maybe on a thread on here, will have a search and see what I come up with. I could have imagined it of course. Your bed looks beautiful. Good luck at the clinic this morning, how is your GD? Hope you are managing it ok.

justbeme no experience of homebirths myself but I think i'm right in saying that if you put your foot down and insist then they can't deny you one - they are obliged to provide the care. Probably worth speaking to your midwife and finding out what the policy is in your area if you go overdue, as I suspect it varies.

Gina hope you get checked out today and get the reassurance you need.

LittleRobbo good luck for your scan, hope its good news.

chestnut100 walk + cake sounds very good! I'm not in london but could come and join you london ladies if the dates suited

Am loving the burns night smilies. Should be ok to eat haggis if your pregnant shouldn't it?

CantSleep ok, a quick search on here has shown up quite a few people happily cosleeping on memory foam mattresses and others saying you shouldn't because baby is at an increased risk of overheating. Haven't found any good evidence to back it up either way. I would say if you've done it successfully in the past then there's no real reason not to again. I might be a bit more cautious as DD seemed very prone to overheating when tiny (once overheated and stopped breathing while sleeping in pram in our unheated porch on very cold day with snow on the ground outside ). I noticed one of my friends had posted on one of the threads about this and she's likely to have researched it a bit I think, so off to ask her if she's got any more info!

I've been checking out cribs as well LaT. The one that's looking interesting to me is www.amby.co.uk/site/pages.php?fid=0,11 as it seems to be getting good reviews. Dh & I are planning on staying with my parents who live abroad for a couple of weeks when the baby will be around 8 weeks old so would also save us from buying a separate travel cot. I'm still not convinced about the positioning though as i thought a baby needs to lie flat? Has anyone here used the Amby Natures Nest Cot?

I must be nesting as taken day off work to have a massive clear out of our study-soon-to-be-nursery

chestnut london walk sounds like a good idea!

MrsC09 I also was looking at the Amby Nest last time around and nearly bought one, but ended up deciding I couldn't justify the money at that point and we just got a cheap 2nd hand cot instead. So, haven't used one but have only heard good things about them. I think i remember reading the postioning is good as it support the spine in a natural position - similar to being in a sling or being held. I think they use them in some hospital units as well.

Justbeme - most areas allow much more than 5 days over for a homebirth - that is franky a ridiculous cut off!

Memory foam is generally hotter than a normal mattress greensnail, so I can see where the thinking comes from, but as long you are sensible with clothing and bedding with it then I can't see it being a real problem. We have air con in our bedroom, so can manage to keep the room as cool as we like.

All fine at clinic this morning. Heart heartbeat again, and docs say that I can reduce my blood tests to every other day for now, which is nice.

We bought an Amby nest for ds. They are so expensive, but we were desperate to get him to sleep somewhere other than on top of us, which is all he would do! However, he is one of those rare cases of a baby who would not sleep in it, because in fact he would only sleep on his tummy when little, which you can't do in an Amby. We are hoping that number 3 will take to it though. For completeness of info, can I just check that you have read the fairly recent reports about the US safety recall on them, after a couple of babies died in them? There is info in threads on here if you want to read more.

Good luck this morning Gina and LittleRobbo.

Oh LittleR, good luck...sorry to hear about row with husband, it's the last thing you need right now. Is he coming to the scan?

Has anyone heard anything from Cadmum...God I hope her procedure went OK.

Whenwill, LaT, I managed to get an adjustable height drop side crib for DS2 which fitted up against the edge of our bed at the same height as the mattress. Just like the baby nest, and it was a lifesaver for the first three months. It allowed a gentle 'distancing' between me and him which I'm sure was helpful in getting him to sleep on his own. If I can find the model I'll post it.

justbeme I had homebirth with DS2 and am planning same with this baby, if all goes well. AFAIK, all trusts have different policies about births deemed 'suitable' for homebirth, but they all have the same basic duty of care which is, if it is at all feasible, to provide medical assistance to labouring women. So far it seems this does extend to women labouring at home who refuse to come to hospital, but I'm sure you'd want to avoid such a stressful stand off. This can almost certainly be sorted out with some direct correspondance with the director of midwife services (or equivalent title) for your trust, but before going down that route you've presumably already seen all the good advice and war stories from the homebirth uk site?.

A word of advice from a personal perspective: beware of the situation where the effort to have a homebirth turns into a battle that chews up a lot of emotional energy. My own view is that if you have a homebirth you need to put a lot of thought into considering plan b - transfer and a hospital birth, taking into account things like how far you are from the hospital, what risks you attach to different problems in labour, what you'll do with existing children etc. If you're so busy battling to get the homebirth that you don't feel up to dealing with plan b then you can find yourself a bit stuffed if things don't go according to plan a.

Quick check while I'm on my lunch

justbeme I had a homebirth with DD2 (and hoping for the same this time). I was almost 2 weeks overdue and had absolutely no problems with midwives etc. My community midwife was actually the one who had suggested I go for it and was very supportive - which helps. I'd second what gizmo says about plan b though. I told my midwife that if anything was slightly wrong then I wanted an ambulance with flashing lights to get me straight to the front of the queue at the hospital! I also had a plan for DD1 so that she went to her grandparents.

Oh and no to haggis I think when pregnant, as it contains lots of offal doesn't it?

Yeah, Haggis has got liver in it which I thought counted it out (mind you, I might be three years out of date!).

Chestnut that london walk sounds like a good idea, although it might be a slow waddle for me

LaTrucha That is the funniest but most cringeworthy story I've heard for ages. I feel for you, I really do. There were so many moments in early pg where that could so easily have been me.

MrsC09 Congrats on the scan.

GinaFB Hope you got your scan today and all was well.

On the weight front, I'm pleased that I've only put back 7 of the 10lbs I lost through morning sickness at the start, so I'm actually 3lbs less than my pre-pg weight. My mum came over yesterday and told me how she'd been so worried that I was going to put on 4 stone and not be able to walk . Not sure where she got that from, as people who are 4st heavier than me now are perfectly able to walk, I think she was actually trying to be nice, but got it completely wrong as usual.

Hi All,

Great to hear good scan stories.

Just checking in really.

I've also been eating loads and have been steadily putting on weight, 9lbs in 18 weeks. Not sure what is going on. I managed to avoid morning sickness, just felt sick-ish some morning but wasn't actually sick. Anyway it looks like my luck might have run out as I've been feeling pretty sick all day today and i've been off my food Hope this goes away soon.

There must have been something in the water this weekend because I have had a shitty one too. Feel exhausted this morning.

MrsCO9 - I too looked at the Amby Nest over the weekend mainly because a great friend has one and swears by it. All my other friends have conventional cots though. It seems so difficult to know what to do for the best because I just don't know what my baby is going to be like and how it is going to want to sleep. The way I'm going it'll end up in a kitchen drawer. Also love the Stokke Sleepi cots but baulking at the price (which caused one of the weekend rows between my DH and me because he loves it but it's not as if the cot is it, we have to buy a few more things too. Anyone swear by the Stokke Sleepi? Are they worth the price?

I have another dilemma in that my Mum bought me a beautiful antique crib which I love but the wicker has been re-painted white and I'm so worried that the paint will harm the baby if it isn't the right paint. I think I might always be terrified if they were in this crib in case they inhaled something from the paint.

Hi Ladies,

Just checking in as well really.

Deffo something in the water me and DF argued yesterday morning which was not nice.

On the cot front I have a M&P close and cosy cot which has been fab. Comes with an additional bit of mattress which covers the gap inbetween the cot and the bed so no risk of baby falling down gap.
I think it is quite pricey but the GP's got it for us with DS1, we are now going to be using it for DC3 so well worth the money even if we had been the ones buying it. We have changed the mattress each time though.
DS1 was in it until he was 1 then went into a bigger cot- there was still room for him but we needed the M&P cot for DS2.
So it's had plenty of use.
On the food front I am eating loads too, well little and often but often goes on until midnight then start again at 7am

Ah well, veggie haggis for me then

Sunworshipper just had a look at the Stokke Sleepi and it looks great, but seems very expensive for what it is. If your worried about the crib paint, you could just keep it downstairs for daytime naps where you can keep an eye on the baby and everyone can admire how beautiful the crib is!

meggymegmegs sorry but I couldn't help laughing at your mum's comment. Sort of thing my mum would say too!

Ah, bollocks. Ladies with SPD - how did it commence? Was it sudden or gradual?

I've just taken 20 minutes over a 10 minute walk, compromised by tearing ligament-y pain right in the centre of my pubis. I've had no twinges before today and it didn't seem to be any worse going up the stairs....what do you think? Should I be thinking SPD?

Hi Everyone -

Loving the new thread title. Have just had a v productive lunch hour catching up!

i have really debated whether to post this as i know know know it's awful but I can't talk to anyone in RL about it. We had our scan on Friday and decided at the last minute to find out the sex and we are expecting another little boy. I thought i didn't mind either way but in my head i was convinced it was a girl so when i saw that willy just burst into tears. In my defence i think some of this was relief at the baby being healthy but still, no excuse really. I can't seem to snap myself out of the sadness that i am not going to have a daughter (really do not want any more kids after this). I hate myself for not being able to appreciate the fact that we have a healthy baby esp after everything that has happened on this thread. Has anyone else experienced this and did it just pass? I need a good whack round the head i know. I have talked to dh a bit about it but just feel awful verbalising my feelings to him as i know i should be pleased the baby is healthy.

Sorry, this post is so long and so many many apologies if it offends anyone I will understand if i need to slope off this thread after this.

gizmo - it could be. Get it checked. Hopefull yby the time you get your appointment it willhave passed, but just in case.
My pelvic pain can be sudden or gradual.
Greensnail - veggie haggis is great! McSweans do a good 'un.

I am still very after this weekend. Trying not to think about it as I get weepy. Still a bit under the weather too which is not helping. Generally scunnered! Hopefully as the week goes on I will feel better and cheerier. Ds has gone to Granny's this afternoon so I am lucky to get a chance for some rest which is nice. Not sure how to get through the rest of the week, but it's been worse and I've survived!

Hi ladies back from scan and all is well phew The Consultant,who is lovely, explained that they were checking for malignancy (scary word) but turns out that its just fibroids,which are harmless and many women have them and never know,but in pregnancy they enlarge quite a lot. I have to have another scan in 10 weeks to check they are not getting in the way of babys growth. Dh has just phoned to see if i am having a nice day!!! The b'tard had completely forgotten i had hospital appointment Looks like we wont be making up just yet.

minimoo - don't feel bad. I imagine the feeling will pass soon, but don't feel guilty. You can feel a bit sad about not having a daughter while still appreciating your little boy.

Oh Minimoo, it's natural to feel a bit weepy and down in these situations: you've grieving a little for one vision of the future that isn't going to happen. Like all grief it will pass, if you let it run through its proper process.

I had a similar experience when expected DS2 - I felt it more as shock than grief - but found it helped to paint pictures in my head of the future with two little boys: particularly the relationship between DS1 and DS2, which (to my surprise) has turned out as close and loving as my best pictures. When they're not biting lumps out of each other

Minimoo - one of the reasons why I'd like to find out what we're having is because secretly I've got my heart set on a girl and if it is a boy then I need time to rethink the 'pictures in my head' as Gizmo said. I reckon it's entirely normal to feel as you are. We can't help our hopes and dreams. Give yourself time to come to terms with it.
Littlerobbo - glad your scan was ok. You must feel so relieved.

LittleRobbo - v. happy to hear that things went well at your scan. Phew! Rather shite that Dh didn't remember about it, however i reckon maybe he deserves a brownie point (ok, half) for calling to ask how your day was going... my Dp would never do that unless I'd given him written instructions to do so!

I've been feeling rough over the past few days. - Headache, feeling a bit faint, really sore inside cheek (think i've been chewing it in my sleep) which has now caused painful swollen glands under my chin. Generally feeling totally lack-lustre and really can't be bothered to get up in the mornings despite Ds badgering me for hours. Feel like a very bad mother. Wondering if it's
a) the weather;
b) hormones;
c) iron levels; or
d) that bloody hyacinth someone gave me that totally stinks the house out.

Back to names:

Do you think that Tabitha is really awful? I keep on coming back to it, despite people saying it sounds like either a cat's name or a witch's name. Also, what are your views on Alexandra (perhaps Sandy for short?) Dp's middle name is Alexander so it would be nice from that point of view.