June-ior middleweights - fighting on through the second trimester (Due June 2010)

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Here we go ladies - I'll C&P the stats in a tick. Don't forget to add the gender on if you find out at your scan

littlerobbo Don't feel bad, I know how you feel as I have a very physical job too. Am coping at the moment as I'm very part time, but I know how hard it was last time when I was working more hours. On top of that you have the DC at home so its not like you can just go home and rest after work. If you feel the best thing to do is to take Mat leave ASAP then definitely do that, but if you feel like you want to explore other options then I'm sure there are some. I think I'm right that if you are unable to do your usual job because of pregnancy then your employer is obliged to find you other suitable work or give you paid leave. I know people who have been put on light duties during pregnancy, but they usually have had to fight for this option and been encouraged onto early maternity leave instead. If work is really getting you down then if it was me I would just start maternity leave and not give work a second thought as its really not worth it!

mampam hope things seem a little more positive this morning. Everything always seems 10 times worse in the middle of the night when you can't sleep doesn't it. Does your DH have to sleep on the other sofa, or is he just keeping you company? I would pack him off to bed tonight if that's an option, then at least you can have the living room to yourself, to sleep or lie awake without annoying disturbances!

I really feel for everyone and the difficulty in getting a half decent night's sleep. Even though I have the bed to myself, I sleep v badly - turning over is such a big ordeal... (and on the odd occasion dh puts in an appearance,I feel like banishing him to the spare room)

gibberingginger my hospital's policy is to start pushing induction after 38 wks, and certainly by 39 wks at the latest. I had a normal delivery with dd but was clear in my own mind that I wanted a CS for the twins, and the consultant (who I count myself extraordinarily lucky to have seen yesterday at the AN clinic) was happy to oblige. So booked on 15th June at 38 wks. I believe 37 wks is considered 'term' for twins. If anything were to happen earlier, it would depend on how dilated I am whether I go for an ECS or normal delivery apparently. What do you think you will do? Resist attempts to induce? (not sure what the medical reasons are for pushing this so strongly w twins other than perhaps if they are getting v large??)

Saucepanman how is it with your BIL? Did you manage to set some ground rules or is he treating your house like a hotel? Any news of when he can go back to FIL's? Did he bring his bed in the end??

Hi all,

Sorry to hear about lots of people sleeping badly. I agree there is nothing worse than starting the day feeling as if you've barely slept.

Im generally sleeping ok still at the moment (hastily touches wood) but I am having crazy dreams. Last night I dreamt that DH went for a job interview and I had to go with him and also answer interview questions on DH. It then turned into a drunken pool playing evening where we felt obliged to stick around as we weren't sure if it was part of the interview or not - I was pregnant in the dream and not best pleased!

Very interested to read when everyone is thinking of starting their maternity leave. My plan at the moment is to start at 38 weeks as my job is not on my feet and isnt stressful. I do have quite a long commute though but if it gets too much I can easily take a couple of weeeks annual leave prior to my maternity leave starting.

We had a great night out on Friday (although DH had quite a sore head on Sat morning - it was a gypsy punk band called 'Alejandro Toledo and the magic Tombelinos'. Id not heard of them before but they were fantastic and Id well recommend them if you get a chance to see them live.

Right, better do some work now,

x

playftse there is some research (though nothing conclusive) to show that the risk of still-birth in twins increases if you go to term (40 weeks). This, combined with the fact that most women are pretty uncomfortable by that point, means most hospital's encourage induction before you go full term. Of course, they can't force you to do so, and I know someone who just gave birth to twins at the same hospital as me (Queen Charlotte's, Hammersmith) at 41 weeks, naturally, no intervention. I personally will resist pressure to induce, unless I really am so enormous and uncomfortable I can't bear to go on (highly possible given the size of me right now).

Sorry to those not getting good sleep. It really does get you down .
marmite your gypsy band sound like a lot of fun! What a brilliant name for a band!

I can't stop eating. I'm disgusted with myself.

P.S. We are running out of space and will need a new thread title soon.
Suggestions?

Just back from v quick check up with midwife at my hospital- all fine and I am apparently having a perfectly average and normal pregnancy! [not convinced]

BP was disappointingly low, as I planned to use it to beat DH with over the whole BIL debacle

Am bang on for measurements, no nasties in my sample (tmi?) and heard a nice healthy heartbeat. It was all to much for 4yo dd, who crashed out in the car on the way back and I then had to carry into the house, not easy!

greensnail re BIL- he has basically not lifted a finger whilst here. 7 wks tomorrow and he hasn't cooked once. His plates etc are put on the side or in the washing up bowl, whether full or not, choosing to ignore the empty waiting dishwasher next to the sink. I could smother him in his sleep atm, I really could. did set groundrules, but because I find him hard to get on with I have told DH when I want something to happen- mostly he tells him but quite often he does it for him, am still trying to work out why! Yes he did bring his bed, and the kids shared for over 6 weeks, I wanted to put them back a week or so ago but dd finally back in own room sunday night. BIL in with ds for a few nights. Caravan open from mon 1st, but sun at 7.30pm he asked dh if he could stay an extra night as he was working in Sheffield mon which we are nearer to than caravan. Last night he came back and showed no signs of leaving- apparently he mentioned on mon he is in shef all week, and seemed to think this statement fine in lieu of actually asking to stay longer He is going on fri, before I kill them both. Glad you asked?!

Hi all, still feel shattered because the f-ing cat woke me up at 6am bloody meowing. This is an annoying habit she has got into lately. If she does it tomorrow however she might have to die! Or she'll have a very sore a*se from my me kicking her outside .

DH redeemed himself last night so I take back all the horrid things I said about him (although I still find it irritating) because after I clicked off MN, I was obviously huffing and puffing (loudly ) and he gave my legs a rub. (bless him) and I was able to get back to sleep until the cat started!!

Had Physio (acupuncture) today and nearly had a screaming fit at the hospital. Arrived for my appointment to be told by hospital receptionist that my name wasn't on the list. Then was told by a snooty bitch Physio receptionist that I hadn't even made an appointment, even though I told her I'd made it directly with the Physio. Just when I was about to either start crying or screaming the Physio came out and said she had written down the wrong name.
Only these things could happen to me, maybe I should write a book about my misfortunes....it would be quite funny

Saucepanman your DH and his DB are taking the p*ss now. Get a definite date of departure out of BIL.

Sorry I don't seem to have any airs or graces today. Just sooooo tired. Speak to you all tomorrow when hopefully I'll be in a better mood.

Oh lovely, can you go to bed now? (apols, cannot remember if you have other children, please don't kill me )

Oh I can sympathise on the crazy dreams marmiteaddict. This morning I think I was woken up by DD shouting, but I was sure the noise was coming from my bump and it was the baby shouting for me. By the time I'd come to enough to work out what was going on DD was quiet again, but DH slept through the whole thing so maybe I dreamt it all

mampam these things do seem to happen to you don't they? I always used to seem to have that sort of thing happen to me but thankfully I'm having much less bother lately . Hope things improve for you too soon.

saucepanman I think you deserve some kind of reward for putting up with him. Does your DH have anything in mind to make it up to you, or will we have to provide him with some suggestions?

Can't believe we've nearly filled another thread. I'm rubbish at thinking up thread titles I'm afraid but am looking forward to reading all the intelligent suggestions that everyone comes up with

Thanks everyone for your support,just had a phonecall from my immediate boss and we are agreed that my maternity leave will start from 16th April,with 2 weeks prior to that as holiday,yay! feels great now knowing i have an actual date,it will make it easier to get through the next few weeks,we've also agreed that i'll do the easier middle shifts in the meantime. i feel so relieved,really looking forward to easter even more now

mampam i feel your pain re sleep and DH,he only has to breathe loudly and i am full of rage

I can't remember who it was who has restless/achy legs,but i think i read somewhere that this could be a sign of a lack of calcium?

littlerobbo brill news, so nice to have something definite in the diary.

mampam awww to your sweet dh, makes up for the loud swallowing!!

Glad you feel so much better about things, LittleRobbo. Oh, and DP's breathing at night... how annoying is that!! It does amaze me just how angry it makes me.

Agree with others Saucepanman that BIL has taken..and is taking...the royal piss. Amazed you have soldiered on through it - the end is in sight... BREATHE...

My skin is SO itchy...currently have a wooden spoon down my back and it is BLISS!

Hi all. Just wanted to say thanks for your advice on taking Mat leave, I know you are all right to encourage me to work as long as possible. But I'm not in a good frame of mind to consider that tonight as had to work late so worked from 8.30am-9pm today, feel sooooo tiered now and my DH is annoyed at me for not eating properly as a result.

Sorry for moan.

mampam I can sympathise with you with regards to cat, I was woken up by my moggy (who is my baby) at 5, not by meowing but because he was sat on top of me purring.

Anyway I've got MW appointment tomorrow morning so excited/nervous about this!

Thanks for welcoming me into the June group

PS Hope the sleepless ones have a good nights sleep tonight

Feeling v sorry for myself today...had a really lovely quiet day at home with the dcs in the end yesterday, was feeling all happy and relaxed, then...

...lay down on my bed after dh came home and the dcs were in the bath and did something really horrid. Not sure what, but totally cricked my back and was screaming in pain. DH managed to lift me off the bed standing but my entire spine had seized up, everything hurt like buggery and I couldn't stand/sit/lie down/anything without being in immense pain. Couldn't move arms/legs either, v scary. DH eventually got me onto my side on the bed, propped up with pillows, fed me painkillers, got me ice for my back (i'm crying with pain at this point and still v scared), put kids to bed and called out a close osteopath friend of ours (thank goodness). Apparently, when I stretched I twisted my pelvis and the left side rotated forward but the right hand side stayed behind. Cue immense pain down back, legs etc.

Anyway, he did some clever stuff and I can now, very carefully, move again, but I was in pain all night long and can hardly get to the loo today. DH is working from home to look after me (bless ). Feeling really with myself as it was a bloody stupid thing to do and even as I was about to stretch I remember thinking 'maybe I shouldn't do it flat on my back'....too late!!

My friend tells me that the pain is because everything has gone into spasm and it should ease up over the next 4-5 days...fingers crossed...

Sorry no personals right now...will be back to do those properly later, can't sit like this for very long atm

OMG filly, that's terrible Do NOTHING today, I order you! And feel better soon x

P.S. BIL has finally gone!

Just popping on to say Hi,

Filly Poor you, make sure you rest up and do nothing for the next couple of days.

Saucepanman So pleased for you that your BIL has finally gone. There is no way I could have coped with someone staying that long during pregnancy.

I have been on a cleaning, tidying, organising, baking frenzy recently. I'm normally good at these things but recently have gone into overdrive!

I have a horrible head today and I haven't done any work. My eyes feel fuzzy too. I have a MW appt shortly so I will mention it to her.

Hope everyone else is ok and still enjoying the sunshine.

for Saucepanman

for Filly - that sounds very frightening and sore

mampam yes, I am in Preston. Don't know Longridge at all though. Weather report from the grim north today is wall to wall SUNSHINE!! Yey, spring is finally springing!

How about "June is loomin'" for the title of the next thread. Or "6 months in - the final push!"?

wheredidmyfeetgo - I want to be that woman - the cleaning, cooking, sorting woman - but I really can't summon up the energy.... Have got a couple of days off work next week, so perhaps I'll be in the mood then. I'm going to have to do something soon because I can't get into the baby's bedroom for all the bin bags of stuff we've brought down from the loft.... sigh and reach for another slice of toast..

Blimey filly that is really scary. Make sure you follow the orders and REST!! Hope you are back to full mobility very soon.

saucepanman hoorah for getting rid of lazy BIL!!!

I've joined the non-sleepers club, it sucks. Can't get comfy at all, up and down to the loo, then at 3:30am I start worrying about everything and can't get off properly again.

alwayshopeful I like your second suggestion for thread title

Good afternoon everyone,

I've got quite behind here, haven't i? I had a stinky cold for a couple of weeks and DH has been working like crazy, so not much to report except for I am continuing onwards, doggedly.

We've had beautiful weather here which is wonderful. It's even almost been warm on some days. This time around, I am actually enjoying some bits of my pregnancy, which is terrific for me as last time was a nightmare from start to finish. I'm still being sick sporadically, which is a drag and not sleeping but I am taking some pleasure in my bump too.

Did anyone else find that they felt differently about subsequent children whilst pg than they did with their first? I'm not sure if it was because I was so ill when pg the first time, or whether, as a first timer, I didn't know how it felt to love a baby but when pg with DD I felt a bit distant from her. I was delighted to be pg but didn't feel much emotional connection withe her until she was born. With this one, I already feel like I love him and even sort of know him. Any thoughts?

hi ALL

filly you poor thing sounds horribly painful, mind yourself and do nothing until you are 100% recovered.

mampam hope you manage to get some decent sleep soon.

i had a good ish nights sleep last night doing my best to not sit for too long on my stupid kitchen chairs that seem to be killing my pelvis...and also wearing my SPD belt out now instead of leaving it at home

Ps: FILLY you poor thing hope you are ok now but mind yourself no doing anything until you are 100% recovered

(typed this already in previous message but it didnt show up on thread )

Alwayshopeful It's only because our as been a "project for the past 4 years as DF want to do all the work himself. So it's only now I have a home that I can start doing all these things in (although the house still isn't quite finished!)

LaTrucha I am taking some pleasure in my bump this time too. I found pregnancy really hard the 1st time round. At 28 I still felt young, DF was still going out and partying, I had just passed my Motorbike test, I couldn't book the snowboarding holiday I had planned. It felt like I couldn't do anything I wanted or eat/ drink what I wanted. Also just being pregnant and not knowing what to expect was hard. Loved DS1 as soon as he arrived- 5 weeks early.
I felt better 2nd time round but foun being pregnant and looking after a toddler (14 month gap) hard work. I much more enjoyed having DS2 here than being pregnant.
This time I have been almost determind to enjoy this pregnancy as this is probably the last. I wish I was one of those women that embraced pregnancy with open arms and "bloomed"!

Is everyone Mumsnetting whilst sitting on a birthing ball yet ? I have just blown mine up as I determined I am not having another back to back labour and apparently this helps so thought I'd mention it.
I also need to get on with clearing the spare room, it's a complete disaster, with a bloody great rocking horse in the middle of it.
Am going a bit mad with outfit shopping and dilema of the day is do I need a bucket type car seat if I've already got a Britax First Class one that stay in the car ?
I think I might

millymollymoo you've just reminded me I should go and search for my birthing ball to sit on. I spotted it in a charity shop shortly after I discovered I was pregnant and got it for about £1 i think, but have no idea where I've put it. I was washing the kitchen floor on my hands and knees this morning though as I don't have a mop, and I think that's supposed to be good for getting baby in the right position too!

filly ouch, that sounds very scary. Thank goodness for your osteopath friend. Hope you're taking it easy today.

LaTrucha I'm also finding it much easier to bond with the bump this time. Although it wasn't really an issue last time, and I did feel I bonded with it well then, this time around its so much easier to believe that I'm actually going to have a baby at the end of the pregnancy, so that's making it seem more real this time.