June-ior middleweights - fighting on through the second trimester (Due June 2010)

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Here we go ladies - I'll C&P the stats in a tick. Don't forget to add the gender on if you find out at your scan

Hello to bobolana!

MF - I'm still pretty sure that last time it was mostly down to work stress and extreme tiredness coming together in the worst possible way. How I coped was basically I didn't. I was signed off work for weeks on end because I just couldn't face it or cope with it when I was there. Just an office job, but a horrendous workload (and manager) that just snowballed. Each day I wasn't on top form the backlog just got bigger and bigger until I nearly went into meltdown. At least that won't happen this time, so I'm hoping I will just stay hormonal and nothing worse will happen.

Oh yes, I was going to say, MF, my friend's baby girl has that name and strangely I spelt it with an "a" as a matter of course. I was wrong though.

Hi All

Me too on the weekend from hell and PMT like symptoms and the sudden onset of SPD.... burst into tears this morning and ended up with DD sat on my knee wiping my eyes and nose saying "Don't cry Mummy.." which made me cry some more, but then laugh because she's so cute!

DH and I are both a bit in limbo on how we feel about our 20 week scan. We were both determined not to ask the sex, but did peak and neither of us saw a willy, so think we are expecting another girl. We both said we weren't bothered, but are a bit upset, so I guess we did want a boy afterall. Nothing's certain, so we'll just have to wait and see... Bloomin' hormones don't help you make sense of your feelings, do they?!

Cadmum I'm glad things went as well as could be expected. It sounds as if you were treated with great care and compassion, after all you deserve that at the very least. I hope all goes well for you and wish you all the best for the future xxx

LittleRobbo, glad everything was ok. Must be a relief.

Have we heard how RnB's private scan went today or have I got the wrong day?

gizmo I think you need to get checked out asap. Please don't leave it to get any worse. The only advice I can really give you is to take it as easy as possible until you know for sure and possibly see a physio. Don't forget that some of the ladies on the SPD thread have quite severe cases so don't get disheartened that you will be as bad as them!!

DH's can be real buggers at times can't they?!! Glad mine's not the only one!!

Oh dear, post no 3 - to answer your last question, it disappeared once I felt physically better basically, which was at around 34 weeks pregnant. No problems after the birth - at least I did get quite depressed but that was a whole lot of different issues focused on breastfeeding. It didn't morph from antenatal to postnatal depression.

How do you cope with the put on weight? I read that is normal to put up to half a kg per month, but lately I am going big a wild time - 2-3kg a week. Is this normal?

Oh Cadmum, thank you for the update. I hope 'meeting' Timothy will be some help to you over the next few months - long may the compassion you are seeing continue because you have truly earned it.

Sounds like we're all suffering pregnancy related personality disorders (also known in my house as 'fat and grumpy'). I have been wondering at the relative peace and harmony that prevailed chez Gizmo over the weekend until I realised that a) DH is nearly 6,000 miles away and b) the boys spent a large portion of the weekend playing out with their friends from next door. So no-one to actually row with.

Hello Bobolana, good to have company at the end of the month!

Mampam, I shall follow your advice to the letter. I have spent all afternoon and evening trying to sit down as much as possible, walk slowly and keep my knees together. I had to cycle home which strangely didn't seem to cause any discomfort - it would have been much worse to walk - but other than that I've been really careful.

First thing tomorrow I'm getting on the phone to my midwife. I learn from a friend of mine who had SPD last year that the local trust is pretty good with SPD and I should be able to get an appointment with an obstetric physiotherapist within a week or two, so hopefully it won't go too far without some treatment. It is still a sh t ng nuisance, but hopefully I can keep it at 'nuisance' rather than 'life-destroying', if I take a lot of care.

Welcome bobolana. I wouldn't say that gaining 2-3kg a week is normal, no. The official advice is that you should gain 5 lbs in total in the first 20 weeks, and then around 1 lb a week after that. If you are underweight to begin with then you can afford to gain more, and conversely if you are overweight then you should aim to gain less. Of course women do often gain much more than is recommended, but then they can take a long time to lose it again afterwards!

Morning ladies, my DH redeemed himself by coming home with a huge bunch of flowers yesterday,but even more than that,he said sorry!!! which in 10 years,i think i have heard him say only a handful of times

Welcome bobolana try not too worry too much about weight gain,just be healthy and happy

mampam you still crocheting? i'm off to buy some pink wool today to do a blanket,i'd love to do mittens etc but i can only do squares!!

Cadmum, thank you for the update I will be thinking of you, RIP Timothy.

LittleRobo glad to see the scan whent well.

welcome bobolana, were due the same day!

Hi to everyone elese hope you are all ok.

I go for my scan on Friday afternoon, dh does not want to no what the baby is but I do. I think its going to be another boy though.

gizmo glad to hear you're gonna get it seen to asap. One bit of advice I forgot to give you.......keep your legs together! Getting in and out of bed and the car escpecially.

LittleRobbo yes I'm still crocheting and I can only do squares or circles so no mittens for baby either. I leave that kind of thing to my Nan!!
Glad your DH has redeemed himself. I would probably drop dead if DH ever bought me any flowers!

I'm going through a bit of an insecure stage at the moment. I look like a Telly Tubby and sometimes just need a bit of reassurance from DH. However, DH is best at saying the worst possible thing at the wrong moments. Fishing for a compliment I said to him "when I've had this baby I'm gonna go to Weight Watchers and get the sexiest body you've ever seen" DH replies "good for you"! Not "you have got the sexiest body" or something along those lines!! And he doesn't get why I'm so stroppy!

cadmum I really hope you are recovering ok. Am so sad for you and your family. RIP TImothy

mampam thanks for remembering. Had the scan last night and everything is perfect . The boys came with us and were delighted to see the baby. Am all excited again now. Was daft really , but having one child with special needs (autism) I'm well aware that those things that 'happen to other people' can most certainly happen to anyone.

gizmo Oh no! Yes I second what mampam says - keep your legs together! I've been seeing a reflexologist this time round and think it's been helping to balance me.

Welcome bobolana!

So glad everything is ok LittleRobbo!

Re weight gain - I haven't actually weighed myself but my body doesn't really appear to have put on much (legs, arms, bum). I do however have a huge bump and gigantic breasts ( I forgot how much these expand! My nipples are comical!). My face however gets really bloated when I'm pregnant . Very annoying in my line of work. Will be sticking to voice overs till the baby arrives

hi bobolana, I am due the same day with LO #1 as well! Hope things are going well!

I have not really gained much weight just changed shape!! My weight seems to fluctuate between having gained nothing and 2 lbs and I have very little appetite at all. I have told my OH to call me GIGANTOR to keep the whole weight issue as light hearted as possible as so far I am ok with it but suspect that later on it might become an issue for me emotionally!

cadmum thanks for taking the time to update us, absolutely not too much detail. My thoughts are with you and your family. RIP Timothy x

madamefreckle I love both those names. My 6yo neice is Alexandra nn Lexie which i love. Tabitha is on our shortlist too, beautiful. minimoo I love Sebastian, sorry for my complete ignorance but is Remy a girl's or boy's name? . littlerobbo I went to school with a Summer, very nice name IMO but very girly, she def couldn't be a tomboy!

Cadmum, thank you for letting us know how you are getting on, we've all been thinking of you. Whilst I am so sorry for your loss, I am relieved to hear that the hospital was so supportive and enabled you to spend the time you needed with Timothy and your dcs. I do hope that time and the love and support of your family help you get back on your feet and hope you have a really fantastic adventure in Cambodia.

Minimoonumbertwo - oops , I forgot to respond to your post yesterday. There's been lots of good advice from others already, but I would say that you are completely normal for feeling the way you do (its the reason I didn't want to know 1st time as I desperately wanted a girl but knew I wouldn't care after the birth) and you need to not be too hard on yourself. But your ds' will have so much fun together, and that will be a wonderful thing to see and enjoy as they grow up.

Gizmo - its called "fat and grumpy" in my house too !! But I've been stupendously over-emotional this week, the smallest little thing makes me burst into floods of tears (very unlike me!)...yuk!!

Had the swine flu jab yesterday...very sore arm today

Am and [impressed] by all the co-sleeping and cots in bedrooms...both my dc's got booted out around the 4-5 week mark as we were all disturbing each other far too much. Somehow I don't expect things will be too different this time around...!

Weight gain - 5lbs in first 20 weeks????? Really???? I've put on a stone so far, hopefully it won't be another 20lbs for the next 20 weeks....even so, I'll be happy to get away with just putting on 2.5 stone this time if it is, as I've put on 3.5-4 stone with my previous two and it takes forever to lose it....

Filly, I hoping you can at least keep it in the house? I've been acting like a watering can all morning at work - it's most embarrassing. This is the price one pays for working in the same place for a long time and getting to know people really well - the slightest bit of sympathy and I start sobbing and swearing like an alkie at chucking out time

Anyway, the physiotherapists at my local hospital have an emergency drop in session next Tuesday and there's a chance they might fit me in before then. So I'm hanging on the telephone, as you can imagine. Mampam I was quite seriously considering tying my knees together with a pair of tights last night! I may have slightly overdone the zealotry, though, because I kept waking up in a panic when my knees relaxed and drifted apart.

On the bright side, I told the boys last night that I had a problem and DS1 came up when I was bathing his brother to tell me that he'd poured me a glass of wine! I wasn't sure whether to be proud or abashed that that is his first line of attack in making mummy feel better

RnB pml at 'comedy nipples' hilarious,mine are too you are not alone!

Gizmo your DS is going to make a very good husband one day,what a grand job you are doing

mampam last time i had flowers from DH was 19 months ago when DS2 was born,its certainly not a weekly event!

Greensnail, Filly and Mrs AR - thanks for your advice on cots and good ideas re the crib. Really helpful and will especially bear in mind the importance of a decent changing unit.

Cadmum - in the midst of your sadness, so glad that the staff were sensitive to your wishes and you were all able to spend time with little Timothy and say goodbye as you wanted. He will have a very special place in the heart of your family. Hope you are getting lots of TLC.

Cadmum thanks for coming back to let us know what happened. So glad you didn't need to have a hysterectomy, and great to hear you were so well looked after. RIP little Timothy

gizmo your DS1 sounds fab, must make sure I train up DD so well

cadmum thanks so much for the update, you have been so incredibly brave and I hope the future brings you exactly what you want.

gizmo i love that your ds poured you wine!! Did you have it? I don't think i could turn that down even with being pregnant!

Saying that dh and i went out for dinner last night for his birthday and i had prawns, medium rare steak and a glass and a half of wine and oh my word did i enjoy every mouthful!!!

littlerobbo thank you and Summer is beautiful! Really really lovely name

dimb how brilliant to have two older brothers! I would have loved that when i was growing up. And my dh is EXACTLY the same, always laughs when i cry, went through a stage of taking photos of it too

gibberingginger thanks for the link, has made me feel much much better, mn is a wonderful thing.

filly thank you so much for your comments too.

Sorry if there's anyone i have missed out, it really is brilliant to be able to release my true feelings on here. Cannot WAIT to have a good old innapropriate moan about newborns when they all arrive!!!

Let's hope the hormones start to calm down soon, I threw the controller at dh the other day as he was talking througout that Delia programme - i don't even really like Delia...

psst. I have just spoken to the woman from this shop/ website. They'll have lots of offers on cots etc at the end of next week / beginning of next week.

Just don't buy the one I want!

Have decided to buy plain old dropside cotbed exactly the same as DDs. I haven't had any complaints about it in two years, apart from it being a pig to put up, but I guess they all are.

Cadmum - thanks for sharing that with us. God bless your beautiful Timothy.

Hello All,

I am new to mumsnet-ish!

My bump details...

Due June 17th with first bubba. Conceived through IVF so hubby and I very excited. I have been suffering with hyperemesis and have taken a few weeks off work now. 20 week scan next week and planning on not finding out sex.

I live in Cambridge and looking to meet people who live nearby who are at same stage as me!

Lizzie xx

I've not managed to keep up with this thread very well - its moving so quickly! Hope everyone is keeping ok. My sickness is still making the odd appearance at over 18 weeks - grrr..

Welcome to Lizzie Cadmum just wanted to send my best wishes to you, sounds like such a tough time but I hope that your move to Cambodia goes well and you have time to grieve for Timothy with your family.

Minimoo I can totally sympathise with how you feel, its hard because its so often not said aloud but I think its normal to have a preference for one sex or the other and since I have a little DS already I would love a DD. Not got my scan date through yet but planning to find out the sex to prepare myself. I think the bottom line though is that you will love the baby regardless when he/she is here and it stops mattering. I have to say though I'm finding it hard to deal with the constant comments from friends and family 'oh, you'll be wanting a girl' etc. as I don't want people to feel like its a disappointment if its a boy as its still a new life and totally amazing. In some ways I'm surprised I want a DD as my DS is such a mummys boy and so affectionate and brilliant. Sorry, must stop rambling!

My appetite has returned with a vengeance - in particular for creme eggs - mmmm.

Must try to keep up with this thread better in future!

cadmum hope you are being well looked after at home and RIP baby timothy.