**August 2010** Tired days and Sicky nights, fear not ladies the end is in sight.

[KayloHalo]

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Alys am so sorry for you, please keep yourself safe and maybe take a bit of a break for a couple of months. However I really hope you have some good news in the future.

I have to say I have found this thread incredibly helpful, but also one that makes me think a little bit more - I know that this journey is not an easy road and I think with my last pg because of some complications discovered early on I was scanned frequently and by this time I knew there was a baby there! At the moment I feel very much in limbo with no scan date and not having had a midwife appt for booking in. Hopefully will all be resolved tomorrow but do feel a little more unsure about it all at the moment. (Although I don't have any reason to feel that way other than paranoia!)

I agree with you there Doodley.
This thread is brilliant (in fact Mumsnet in general is! ) - albeit very sad at times. Makes you realise that having a baby is a tough road to walk down - which many people take for granted. With my m/c in September I would have gone crazy without MN cos I couldn't talk to DH about it.

Hope you get yor appointments through soon - how many weeks are you now?

Oh no Alys I'm so sorry . Thinking of you xx

I'm so sorry Alys. Hope you're doing ok and getting lots of tlc from those that love you most.

Oh no Alys that is awful - I really feel for you It seems so unfair that so many people have had to leave the thread.

Feel rather guilty about my good news now but just wanted to let you all know that I had my scan this morning (at 11+3) and there is a baby inside me! Good heartbeat, all limbs present and correct. S/he even waved at us and yawned.

I am so relieved - was in tears on the way to the hospital as I was absolutely convinced that something was wrong.

Still no pregnancy symptoms though! Boobs not as sore and when the doctor weighed me I have actually lost weight compared to the last appointment a fortnight ago.

Nichy Thats brilliant!!!

at your weight loss tho.

I'm finding it hard to hide the bump already. Officially in maternity clothes (bottoms and tops) cos sick of my belly showing from under my normal t-shirt. Very obvious that I'm pregnant now, which is brill but worried I'm gonna be the size of a house by the time I get to full term.

Hello, may I join? I'm 8 weeks with DC4, and already have DS1 (4 yrs), DD (2 years), and DS2 (7 months). I've also had one mc previously so am anxiously awaiting symptoms, as well as mw booking appt and first scan. No dates for these yet, though dr should have referred me last week. If all goes well, this will be our last DC, so I'm trying not to worry too much but to really enjoy it. I vacillate wildly between thinking I must be insane to have 4 under 6yrs but also how sweetly sad that this will be our last!

sorry alys take care xxxx

Its so sad how many people have left us!

Im getting really anxious about my scan now.

That's great news NichyNoo!

Welcome vitapulchra

NichyNoo that's lovely news! But I'm also at your weight loss.

I'm the same as you Kaylo - looking rather pregnant now and will be quite relieved when I tell my work tomorrow. Then I won't need to make sure I'm carrying a large notebook in front of my belly every time I leave my desk! Oh how I wish I'd managed to get my abs back into shape after ds ( were they ever in shape...?)

Alys, that is horrible . So sorry you have been through this twice as well. Take care of yourself, enjoy a big glass of wine (or two) and I am sure you will be strong enough to consider trying again soon.

Nichy, that is lovely news and makes me feel a bit better about my symptoms subsiding. I am feeling really anxious now cos I am not feeling as sick. But I keep telling myself it is normal to start feeling better around this time.

Welcome vita - my mum had four under six and it was hard work but very rewarding! I am going to have three under three .

I rang the antenatal clinic to see if I could get an early scan but they said no, even though I said I already have twins and have had a previous mc . But they have given me a scan date - Feb 3, so that is two more weeks! Please tell me everything is fine and I am just acting crazy.

My SIL is 7wks-ish and had some bleeding so has been for a scan and she is having twins! I think that has made me more anxious, almost like cos she's having twins maybe I am too or maybe cos her pregnancy looks viable mine won't be . Slap me please!

I had my scan today - 12+2, 55mm long and a good heartbeat. We struggled to get a good photo cos it was wriggling around so much!

To all of you worrying about your scans, just wanted to say that I know exactly how you all feel. Mine's a week today (when I'll be 12+3), and I'm getting more and more nervous the closer it gets. I mean, I've always known in theory that mc/mmc are pretty common (my mum had two mcs, including one at 5.5 months), but somehow seeing so many people leave this thread has really brought it home to me . Actually, I read somewhere the other day that, statistically, every woman will have one mc in her life (obviously many won't, because some poor women have several). Just goes to show that, except on forums like this, mc is such a 'hidden' thing. If everything does go ok on Tues, then I'm just going to feel so grateful that I've been lucky again this time.

Re the big stomachs, I'm in a situation now where I'm staring enviously at all my old mat clothes and my lovely new mat jeans, but not able to wear them because it would then be so obvious that I'm pregnant. Grrr. I'm off to London for a theatre/dinner trip on Saturday (leaving DS with his granny), and I haven't got a clue what to wear.

Blueberries, you've got quite the wrong attitude, m'dear. You should be thinking 'thank god I didn't bother to get my abs back in shape after DS, because I would just have to do it all again after this baby anyway'. That's what I'm telling myself, anyway .

Had my booking in appointment today - was much more detailed than when I had DS1 & 2 - the booklet you get now is massive compared! Was odd tho as they have put me under consultant care rather than midwife care as both my boys were small (no one mentioned that at the time tho?!) one being just under 6lbs and 1 being just under 7lb. I explained that their dad is quite small but my husbang is 6ft4 and 16 stone, so dont think this baby will be small but she said that I had had two previous babies that had IUGR (growth retardation)

Odd - anyone else been put under consultant care?

Elusive you're so right! Is it weird to be dreaming about all the exercise I'll do next year? (being realistic and giving myself a good few months after giving birth to get active again .

Is anyone else got really painful ligament twinges? I find that if I get out of a chair too quickly I can feel something almost "ping" in my pelvis and I get a sharp pain. Very ouch. Too much stretchy hormone or something I reckon!

Getting nervous about my scan too - it's on Monday when I'll be 13+0 and although I had a scan at 9+3 I'm still terrified.

Oh Neenz how wonderful!!! You'll be able to give her lots of tips
Don't wanna virtual slap you cos I agree with you that a scan would definitely offer a huge amount of peace of mind for yourself after twins and a m/c!! 2 weeks will pass quickly tho

welcome vitapulchra

xx

blueberries me, I have that twingy feeling!! It feels like when I had SPD with ds. Was hoping to escape it - not looking likely...

Bouncing - i have been having those for a few weeks now. Very bad when i sneeze!

Elusive - i was saying to DH the other day at how shocked i was the amount of people having mc's. If you have never had kids or been lucky enough to have had only successful pregnancies you really have no idea. When i was pg with DD i didn't use the internet and it never occurred to me that i might mc (i didn't) It is only since being on MN and two of my friends having early mcs that has made me aware of how common it is. I have been a lot more worried this time. Big hugs to all of you who have suffered, and fingers crossed for the rest of us who are awaiting scans

bouncing I get them too, very painful and make me clutch my stomach like a true pregnant lady So glad it's not just me, I was getting worried at the strength of some of them!
alice I'm the same, DH asked me the other week why I'm so worried about mc this time round. Last time I just had no idea how common it is.
I keep having vivid dreams which is fine but Saturday night I had a dream in which I died...it's really scared me! I know it's silly but I was cancelling my Sainsbury's order and everything in my dream because I knew I was going to die. Normal dreams please!

Oh thank goodness it's not just me! Had a really comical moment earlier where I had to walk around the office doubled over and everyone was giving me odd looks.

chulita you poor thing - that is a disturbing dream. I've been having lots of dreams about giving birth, mainly where I don't make it to the hospital and end up getting my mum or dh to help deliver the baby in the kitchen! I think this harks back to being told constantly after having ds that since my active labour with ds was only 5 hours, I'd be lucky to make it to the delivery suite next time round! We shall see...

Really slow day at work today. Just want to go home and snooze.

I just want to go home and snooze too! I only found out yesterday that feeling tired was part of the pregnancy package. I've been feeling so bad about not pulling my weight at home with housework and cooking dinner etc. For the past 2 weeks I've been washing my face with shockingly icy cold water as soon as I get home to zap some energy into me so I can cook the dinner. Now I know it's normal to be tired I think I might just kip instead!

Scan on Tuesday, I'm trying to stay calm about it but am frightened of bad news... Would I still be feeling pukey and tired if 'strawberry beast' wasn't there any more?
Cried so much reading Alys' last post. It's just so sad.

Hi all,

Just wanted one last post to say thank-you all for your kind words. I'm sure in time we will make some decisions.
Been back to the hospital today (Barnsley) and they were wonderful, and even let me see our peanut again, just to put my mind at rest that our little one was really gone (seven weeks again same as last time)
I have two wonderful sons and an equally wonderful husband, so I know I can get through this.
sorry for upsetting you HerbalHolly!!

I hope you all go on to have wonderful healthy bouncing babies.

Take care of yourselves, I will pop on sometimes and see how you are all doing if none of you mind that is.

Love and hugs and lots of lovely baby thoughts.
xxxx

alys, I'm glad you were looked after today, and of course you're welcome to come back and cheer us on All the best for the future, may it bring you lots and lots of happiness! [hugs]

Hi to everyone
Like Alys just wanted to say thank you to everyone for your kind words and thoughts. I managed to get my scan moved to this morning, from the hosp where I went to A & E to my "booking" hospital where we had DD. They were very kind this morning but confirmed what I knew, we're both relieved to finally know for sure.
We're looking to the future now, and very much hope I will be joining another ante natal thread sometime soon.
Good luck to you all. I may pop back too, as you've all been so kind and it makes all the difference to hear happy news.

freezing and alys - please do take care of yourselves. I'm so sorry things have taken a bad turn for you but we all hope to hear some happy and positive news from you both soon!

Please feel free to pop in on us and tell us how you are getting on

More sad news ((HUGS)) to you both!

I'm also starting to get quite worried about my scan, I have he odd twinge and sickness bouts but apart from that I'm fine. I just hope my little one is to.

I have ages to wait, 15th Feb seems a long way off although my booking in appointment is next week thankfully. I'm secretly hoping they might test for a heartbeat then as I am not sure I can wait much longer.

Lots of lovely baby thoughts to us all x