on the 1st day of christmas my true love sent to me a moosy and a baby

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new thread ladies

Morning.

Been up since 5 with DS1. He just woke up screaming, not sure if it is one of those night terror things. He was shaking really badly. He ended up in our bed and went back to sleep with DH. I ended up having a shower at half 6 as I was so bored. They are all still sleeping so I've come for a game on the Wii without being asked "what's that?" every 2 seconds.

Tink, my MIL got DS2 his first shoes last week. He looks really cute but also really funny in them. I still think he is my little baby so he doesn't need shoes. But he isn't far off walking at all.

I am starving. Might have scrambled eggs.

Hope everyone is well.

hi kay poor ds1 bless him
shoes sound lovely
brackens r pink and purple with flowers on and do up with velcro
she is cruising around furniture so not long either

hi ses

hope all ok diege

just about to buy coat and boots online still undecided with boots???

just realised think starting this new thread and the title spured little mossy to rush out

what r ur thoughts ladies???

will be up in hull for christmas staying in a lodege.
xmas morning i want to give dds our presents to them before we go to his mums and then leave them in the lodge?
i have bought dd1 leapster (games console) and tag pen and books dont really want her to take them to his mums as will be rude to play on them on xmas day and his sister has a 5 year old so dont want fighting and things getting broken

Afternoon everyone

CONGRATULATIONS MOOSY! and lovely name too. Did you settle on a middle name yet?

So are we keeping the Wagon on the antenatal club area or moving to postnatal??.... guess it depends who will be getting pregnant again first!!

Ses- hope you enjoyed the remainder brownies Was it yummies in the big box addressed to your DH?

Star- we definately need to meet again if it helps your DD's sleeping !

KAyz- sorry for feeling bad about your DH. SOunds like its hard work- hope he improves for christmas.

Hi everyone else- Gruff, Bumps, IDOB, Lightening, Sorky- Nice guest appearance btw!

The HV has just been to do DD's 8-12mth check and all was fine. Although DD isnt moving about yet. She said she should be standing against stuff by 10mths. Does that sound right to anyone?

Tonight I am off to our NCT AGM- as I was want to do the NCT BF counsellor training so I need to meet the committee. Im quite nervous, will be weird to go somewhere alone and not know anyone!

DD has just eaten a whole banana after a plate of mini meatballs and pasta. She has retired to her cot to sleep it off while MN tidy up.

Hi Tink- knew there was a name missing there.
Any luck selling the playstation thing?

Hello!

Ginger - yes, the box was and M&S hamper. Has lots of stuff in it including christmas cake, christmas pudding, 3 bottles of wine, biscuits, etc.
V impressed with you training to be an NCT BF counsellor. I have to confess it's gone through my mind too but don't know where to find the time!

Tink - sounds like a good plan for presents on Christmas Day.

Here things are pretty good (hope I'm not tempting fate!) O finally sat up properly unaided today. I think he's been teasing me though as he sat perfectly without the slightest wobble for about 10 minutes on about half a dozen occassions. He looked at me as if to say "I've always been able to do it, I just choose not to!"

gineger hi - my dd2 is 10mnths and abit and she pulls herself up to furniture and crusies along
havent had check yet
i get nervous with everything especially when i dont know people!!!

we are not selling our playstation have toys on ebay

very quiet on her lately

i still keep getting getting nervois about travelling to hull @ xmas properly sounds silly. last time i was up there was last july when pregnant and mil was very stressed was a horrid experience!!!
sure it will go ok this time

i bought blue animal coat and went for rocket dog boots in brown bark colour hope they fit

cheers ses - have also got dd1 a go go hamster and ball so thought she could take that and open @ nanas

Hi

Just back from the nursery xmas party. Was good. Played pass the parcel, saw santa and had tea. Even met a friend of gruffs there too

Tink, sorry I meant the leapfrog playstation thing.

Ses- hamper sounds great. Good for O for sitting. He will standing up before you know it!
Let me know if you want any of the info I've found out about the BF counselling. I have no idea how I will fit it in when working full time but I really want to do it.

Evening all. Just back from airport to meet my brother and sil who just arrived from Australia for nearly a month - woo hoo. So, not only lovely to see them and first time they met DD, but also - they brought a scan piccie with them So excited for them, as I know they've been trying for at least 18 months before getting pg. She's only 9.5 weeks, but had a "viability scan" - not sure if that means they have had some assistance or maybe she has had miscarriages during 18 months, but so thrilled for them. They are only telling immediate family right now, but I'm pretty sure it will come out to wider family on Christmas Day (not from me - mouth firmly buttoned, but usually in our family, I'm still keeping a secret long after everyone else knows ) Think my DB was really excited to tell us - he opened his case at the airport to get out Christening pressies for the children and was all "and, we've got another present here..." - can you tell I'm all excited?!

Anyway, we picked up their wedding outfits to take up to Scotland in our car (they're flying up), so now just not got to forget to take them with us tomorrow

Ginger - nursery party sounds good. I wouldn't worry about DD moving - they all do things in their own sweet time. DS didn't crawl until 9 months and then didn't walk until 14 months - she will probably just take off really quickly when she does it (expect being round other children at nursery will spur her on to copy them).

Ses - M&S hamper sounds yummy and yay to DS for both sleep and sitting - love it when they do things and you're just left wondering "hmm, you really are in control aren't you, just do things when you want to" - well I seem to think that regularly with DD - ha ha!

Tink - reckon your plan for Xmas sounds fine. I would put pressies you leave in hotel in cupboard, so out of sight out of mind IYKWIM, but I am probably just over-cautious. Think you are wise to leave them there though, as am sure your DDs will get other pressies to play with at Nanas.

Kayz - hope DS1 is feeling better and you get better sleep tonight. Scrambled eggs sounds yummy. Sorry for trouble you and DH are having. This can be a really stressful time of year for some. Hope it all works out.

to anyone I've missed.

Morning!

Star - that is so lovely to have your DB & SIL to stay and such fantastic news! Not suprised you're so and excited!!

I'm in shock this morning. DS would not go to sleep at bedtime last night. He just didn't seem tired which is v unusual for him these days. He eventually went to sleep at 9.30.
However he then slept til 4am!!!!! I then sat up in bed and fed him and he went back to sleep so I transferred him back into his cot at 4.45am and he slept til 7.30am!!!
I just hope he can repeat this (and with an initial sleep starting around 7 or 7.30!)

Morning

Ses- great news about O sleeping! lets hope he keeps it up!

Star- how exciting about your brother lovely news. I was welling up reading your post

Thanks for comments about DD moving about. I am glad Im not chasing after her I guess so will enjoy her sitting there quietly for now.

Keep getting headaches- they might be tension (thinking about going back to work :-( ) or maybe my hormones as I am giving up the breast feeding.

I am in two minds about stopping breastfeeding for good before going back to work. I was all set to stop, then the HV was trying to talk me out of it yesterday.

need to decide soon i guess....

Hi everyone.

Morning all,

Ses - great news about DS sleeping well last night. Fingers crossed he repeats it tonight.

GBL - sorry for rotten headaches . How do you feel about stopping the breastfeeding? Is it just the hv making you question it or are you not really ready to stop?

We had some rubbish news yesterday - it sounds as though most or all of DPs department are going to be made redundant . It's crap timing as we can manage on just his wage or just my wage but not on my maternity pay and I really don't want to go back to work earlier than I planned. He only moved to this bank 2 years ago so his redundancy money will be minimal. I'm sure we will manage somehow but its a real pain.

Hi Ginger- I'm going to keep on with BF until about 18mths maybe this time... I did till 12 mths with the other 2, but DD2 is much smaller, so if she carries on she'll be about the size of a 14mth old by 18mths... She's only taking about 4 feeds a day now anyhow. My supply has adjusted to that for her fine. IMO i think it'd be easier to wait until 12mths when they can go onto cows milk rather than changing them onto formula then onto cows milk... but it's entirely up to you!!

Good for you on the NTC BF thingy... My BFN course has been put back until next year because people dropped out. But i'm also persuing another course through the 'be a star' organisation, and also through another BF network called 'little angels'... Hopefully i'll get where i wanna go with at least one of them and can then start voulenteer work.

Thanks for wishes All - am still so excited about my DB and SIL. Was laughing last night though because it will be so funny and lovely to see them go through this - apparently DB has been researching what vitamins she should take and that she shouldn't take them after 3 months and then, they didn't bring them with them because they stopped in Abu Dhabi en route and had read up about what they could and couldn't take into the country - can you tell that they met doing their PhDs? Am going to really enjoy seeing (well in loosest sense of the word, seeing a they will be back in Oz in January) my DB go into world of parenting. He is by his own omission rather OCD on cleanliness, etc... but am still so thrilled for them.

IDOB - what rubbish news. Fingers crossed that something comes through for DP though so you don't have to go back early. Have a brownie and a surreptitious (v. non-wagonesque) hug.

Ses - wow on O's sleeping. DD too slept better for not going to bed 'til 9pm last night, although only 'til 1.45am, but hey, is better than less! Hope O continues it for you.

Sorry for headaches GBL - could well be related to cutting down bfing. Remember, it is your decision and no-one else's. No-one can tell you when the right time is for you. I know people who have continued with just the nighttime bf, or just morning bf (or just those two) for as long as they and their DC wanted to (I'm holding on to that as I want to continue with those two feeds - and probably more during night without wanting to ) when I go back in Jan. BUT, there is nothing wrong with giving it up totally if you want to either. Just depends what suits you and DD best. You have given her the best start in life and now, at nearly 9 months, it is up to you to choose what you want to do (well, as it has been all along really).

Right, suppose this packing is not going to get itself done is it now?

Oh, cross-posts Can't. Can I ask when your DD is taking her 4 bfs? Am just interested as I have been trying to cut down on daytime feeds in the hope that she would take more solids at mealtimes and then sleep better (always after getting her better sleep!) and she won't be able to have daytime bfs (i.e. any between first thing and evening) when I go back when she's nearly 10 months old, so was hoping to just cut them out and have her on 3 meals and snacks during day - do you think that sounds right, or will she need formula? (am pretty sure I won't be able to express enough for daytime feeds while I'm working).

Really must get to packing...

star - very exciting

idob - oh no about job!!

i am getting so anxious here it is ridicolous - really do not want to go to hull, stems from the last time i was up which was last july and is mum never mentioned pregnancy i was 16 weeks didnt say congratulations and was really stressed about arranging dhs dads party for retirement she was in a horrid mood it made me and dh really stressed and down.
i keep going to the loo on immodium have booked drs appmnt to go on antidepressants again appmnt not till dec 21st.
dont want to spoil dhs and kids xmas. dont see pint in going if it is going to make me feel like this leading up to xmas!!

I'd never be able to express enough myself so it'd have to be formula if i were in your situation...

DD has her feeds at:
6am (only currently as teething atm- this is normally at 7am)
12.30ish (after lunch- she doesn't drink much water/juice yet still)
3-4ish after waking from nap
6.30ish for bedtime.

Sometimes she has more water after her lunch and wont want a feed, some days she may be cranky/tired mid morning and want a feed... but she normally takes 4 feeds throughout the day.

She also has a bowl of breakfast (1 wheatabix with whole milk/baby rice and fruit puree/1 whole mashed banana/baby cereal) at about 7.30am. Then has lunch- a full 7mth jar (200g?) or eqivalent of homemade mashed up food, followed by either a biscotti or a yoghurt. Then for dinner she will again have a full 7mth jar/same amount of homemade food followed by fruit/yoghurt for pudding. She will be offered juice or water throguhout the day but will normally just take about 2-3oz of that in the whole day.

IDOB- sorry to hear of DP's job... hope it all works out for you

Hi

IDOB sorry for DP job. Such a bad time of year for news like that

Tink - for you that you are worried about xmas in hull. Do you not get on with her at all? Hope you can sort something out to help you relax a bit. Awful feeling like that- I know from experience.

THanks for comments about breastfeeding. My heart says to keep going but my head knows it might make the going back to work experience more stressful.

She already has 1 bottle of formula in the day at 3pm and the other feeds (7am, bedtime and 10pm) are all bf.

Issue is that I will either be leaving early in the morning or back late in the evening after her bed time. I could possibly still do the morning feed I think and of course the 10pm one. But might need to drop the bedtime one as I dont want to be tied to a breast pump when I get home. Ho hum....

Star- my DD takes about 6 to 8oz during the day (at at 3pmish) and has 3 meals a day with water at each meal. Depends on your pumping but if she only needs one bottle of EBM a day, you might be able to pump that in 2 expressing sittings quite easily. Either way its seems hard work doesnt it? bloody work, really gets in the way sometimes

Ginger - really difficult isn't it? I've got a similar dilemma about BF when I go back to work in Feb. In my ideal little world, I'm wondering about doing some expressing at work (in the loo or in the car??!) at lunchtime which will then do for a feed whilst not taking up my evening. I have a little cool bag with a freezer block. I wonder whether it will work in practice though...

Tink - sorry your trip is causing you so much stress. Have you spoken to your DH about it?

IDOB - how rubbish for your DP. Fingers crossed it doesn't come to anything or something even better comes along.

Just had this email from a friend. Sorry it looks lengthy but it made me smile

My Mum has had me for 7 months. The first few months were great-I cried, she picked me up and fed me, anytime, day or night. Then something happened. Over the last few weeks, she has been trying to STTN (sleep thru the night). At first, I thought it was just a phase, but it is only getting worse. I've talked to other babies, and it seems like it's pretty common after Mums have had us for around 6 months.

Here's the thing: these Mums don't really need to sleep. It's just a habit. Many of them have had some 30 years to sleep -they just don't need it anymore. So I am implementing a plan. I call it the Crybaby Shuffle.

It goes like this:

Night 1--cry every 3 hours until you get fed. I know, it's hard. It's hard to see your Mummy upset over your crying. Just keep reminding yourself, it's for her own good.
Night 2--cry every 2 hours until you get fed.
Night 3--every hour.Most Mummies will start to respond more quickly after about 3 nights. Some Mummies are more alert, and may resist the change longer. These Mummies may stand in your doorway for hours, shhhh-ing.

Don't give in.. I cannot stress this enough: CONSISTENCY IS KEY!!If you let her STTN (sleep through the night), just once, she will expect it every night. I KNOW IT'S HARD! But she really does not need the sleep, she is just resisting the change. If you have an especially alert Mummy, you can stop crying for about 10 minutes, just long enough for her to go back to bed and start to fall asleep. Then cry again. It WILL eventually work. My Mummy once stayed awake for 10 hours straight, so I know she can do it. Last night, I cried every hour. You just have to decide to stick to it and just go for it. BE CONSISTENT!

I cried for any reason I could come up with.
My gro-bag tickled my foot.
I felt a wrinkle under the sheet.
My mobile made a shadow on the wall.
I burped, and it tasted like pears (I hadn't eaten pears since lunch - what's up with that?)
The dog said "woof" (I should know. My Mummy reminds me of this about 20 times a day.)
Once I cried just because I liked how it sounded when it echoed on the monitor in the other room.
Too hot, too cold, just right--doesn't matter! Keep crying!!
It took awhile, but it worked. She fed me at 4am. Tomorrow night, my goal is 3:30am.

You need to slowly shorten the interval between feedings in order to reset your Mummies' internal clock

Ses, that is so funny. Can I borrow it to paste on thr December 08 thread?

IDOB, really sorry about your DP's job.

I have the boys sore throat. It is bloody killing me.

Kay - yes do! I've posted it on the May 09 thread too!
Sorry for sore throats, no fun.

We had a great day today meeting Santa. I was a bit "bah humbug" about going but it was really lovely and I'm glad we went.

I think I'll head off to bed. Hopefully get another good night.

Morning all

How was your night Ses

Tink- hope you are feeling ok today. Maybe you need some retail therap

Can anyone offer any comments on my thread about DD please?
here

We had an ok night. I tried not doing the 10pm feed to see if she needs it and she more or less slept 12 hrs straight! I heard her chatting at somepoint around 5 but not for long then managed to hold on til 6.30am before feeding her. Will try again tonight to see if it was a fluke but may consider dropping the DF if she doesnt need it.

Hi everyone x