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The PESH Deli serving gin cocktails, blue cheese and softly cooked egg sarnies

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givecarrotsachance · 15/11/2009 20:06

Welcoming all BESH PESH "grads". Full bar service. Today serving:

Softly scrambled eggs with a side order of prawns, moules mariniere, pate on toast, swordfish and tuna bake with a full cheese board of stilton and unpasturised brie.

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givecarrotsachance · 23/11/2009 10:43

@ dog-washing.

OK ski here's my take on it, as a super-adventurous lassie married to a super-adventurous YOB.

There is no doubt that there is a sort of maternal thing which kicks in that makes you evaluate the risks of risky things twice, rather than the once you may have done before.

We won't be travelling to Africa for a few years. Certainly not while I'm pregnant and breastfeeding - after that it depends on the doctor's recommendations over anti-malarials for little ones. We've not taken LC there yet because of that, which has been tough as I hate leaving him behind.

Other than that there's really almost nothing I would stop doing. Generally so-called high risk activities are actually not so. Obviously skiing and horse riding are perhaps two of the most dangerous - but most people don't recognise that (I mean obv you will). We like to fly stuff which is seen as being very dangerous but is actually really safe (other than a couple of times in Africa which were perhaps a little dodgy!).

When we were in Kenya in August we drove quite a long way in a borrowed Landrover and from time to time I felt we were maybe going a bit far, as it was really quite risky sometimes, places where there was noone within about 50k, no water and no other vehicles - and lions . I did start to think about LC then (maybe a bit late) but at the same time I wouldn't have missed it for the world.

Yet despite all that I would probably not go back into eventing. I do wonder how much of that is me being very conscious of how much I don't bounce anymore though rather than to do with the kids!

There are things which are trickier, for instance YOB wants to get a yacht and go cruising for a few years. Now a) we don't have the money (by a long way ) and b) I'm not so keen on sailing as he is - but if he wants to do it, I want to give it a go. With just the two of us that would be relatively straightforward (given the cash not being a problem) but it takes a lot more planning with kids. But most things are possible.

This is slightly different to the parent reducing their risky stuff so they can continue to BE a parent, but I suppose that my point is that generally people's perception of risk is totally skewed anyway, and what one person sees as too risky, another will happily have their kids do with them.

I can see you in a few years' time, whizzing down a hill with a little one whizzing behind you - what's better than that?? And I started to learn to ride aged 4 so LC at 5 is seriously behind... . On the other hand he goes mountain biking with us now - albeit short distances - and will come offroading with us next year in the landy.

Dog-wise, the veeery best thing you can get is a decent baby carrier IMO. Dog walking and prams don't mix. Forget the crappy complicated Baby Bjorn type rubbish with straps and stuff. Go for a Mai Tai or sling (I love mai tais personally) which is far more comfortable and much easier to use, especially for long distances. They're also more convenient for towns where you suddenly realise how steps there are, how small doorways are and how few kirbs are dropped. You have both hands free for shopping, too. When the baby gets older you can carry them on your back with a mai tai, away from traffic fumes, and you can talk about things rather than them being 3 feet away from you. If they want to walk you can fold the fabric up and you don't have a buggy to get in the way, and when they get tired they just pop up again.

You can even breastfeed in them on the move, with practise. And babies love being tucked close to you - they're usually much more settled than in a pram.

Going on to dogs, mine was wonderful with our baby and he's very tolerant now he's bigger. Some are, some aren't but I would totally agree that now's the time to get the training in! It was suggested that a blanket that had wrapped the baby was given to the dog before introducing them to each other. We didn't do this but a lot of people say it works well.

I'm also getting the sicky - yet burping - thing. Sorry to hear yours is getting worse, ski.

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givecarrotsachance · 23/11/2009 10:47

Ooh that was a long post! Should have been doing some work

Will take a look at that thread. What are they banning the blokes from doing?

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givecarrotsachance · 23/11/2009 10:50

Oh and before you google it, I meant MEI tai. although perhaps a freudian slip??

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skihorse · 23/11/2009 11:24

I had already thought that some form of papoose would be a lot easier to deal with that doors, dogs and bags of shopping! Thanks!

I'm not sure I believe this riding/skiing are super dangerous sports. I am a ridiculously good skiier (instructor level) - so I very rarely have accidents - yet when I see the average Brit ski I'm embarassed for them. Perhaps they're just "not sporty"? The riding I think comes with more risks but they'll always be calculated ones. I ride my own horse and on saturday hacked out on my own so everything was at my pace (still galloped & jumped though ) - but all said and done, I'm not sure I'm ever going to get on that horse "with the bad reputation" again - but that was even before diffedness. When you're 15 it's all very different of course!

CurlyCasper · 23/11/2009 11:32

I'm have the opposite opinion on the papoose front. while I very much intend to use a sling because my wrists are rubbish for carrying, the last thing I want when trying to wrench mutley away from another dog/squirrell/cat or whatever is a baby strapped to me. I'd rather take a hand off the pram, stand beside it, wrestle with the bitch using both hands, then resume walkies when as is well. Dog is a bit of a jumper, and I don't think any amount of excitement will stop her lunging at my chest when she's in the throes of excitement cause I've produced her favourite toy in the middle of the park! Def best to keep baby separate while mutley gives me some all-four-paws lovin'

CurlyCasper · 23/11/2009 11:35

should add that once baby is big enough he/she will be placed into adrenaline junkie training my Dad. He'll be buying the smallest buoyancy aid and kayak he can find before we know it and training his offspring to plunge down steep rapids. Then I'll have them both to worry about

iggypiggy · 23/11/2009 11:39

I can not fink dat far ahead

When you PESHies having a scan?

skihorse · 23/11/2009 11:43

"Wrestle with the bitch with both hands" - I've just had quite the mental picture of "Home with the Caspers"!

iggy tomorrow innit.

iggypiggy · 23/11/2009 11:45

tomorrow I not realise was so soon!

much excitement

CUNextTuesday · 23/11/2009 11:46

NEW SYMPTOM ALERT

Trapped nerve in left side of upper lip making me look like Elvis in a loop.

Miserere

skihorse · 23/11/2009 11:49

I had another "wobbly" this morning. Because I couldn't sleep I found myself at 4am looking at one of those "show us your bump" threads. Now I'm not a wee wisp of a girl but it made me feel quite queasy and I still don't get how it's going to "fit". Can I change my mind or at least delay the birth?

skihorse · 23/11/2009 11:50

iggy Well either they're going to say "can you hear this?" or they're going to say "you sad, sad, deluded foreign bitch". It's exciting and scary too - do I give my topiary a little trim or not?

cunty oooh la la that sounds exo'ic!

CUNextTuesday · 23/11/2009 11:56

I always trim. You don't know how judgemental they are going to be... how many weeks are you? (not connected to bumfluff - connected to whether you'll see a heartbeat)

skihorse · 23/11/2009 12:02

Anywhere between 6 and 7 I think... 6+3 tomorrow though is my best guess - so it seems really touch and go as to whether anything will be seen & heard or not.

CUNextTuesday · 23/11/2009 12:04

Pity it couldn't have been a few days later

skihorse · 23/11/2009 12:12

haha well when I phoned for the midwife it was tomorrow they gave me and I wasn't going to start a row at this stage.

CurlyCasper · 23/11/2009 12:13

ooh more excitement for tomorrow ski

I'm going Dec 7, at 7+5. But think I've told you that enuf times already. (a whole two weeks' wait...)

Sorry cunty but have to LOL at your Elvis lip.

skihorse · 23/11/2009 12:13

... maybe if she rams it up me hard enough?

givecarrotsachance · 23/11/2009 12:18

casper Kayacking sounds brill . One on my list. We were thinking of it next year as YOB did it not long ago on a week's course but I would love to have a go. Obv not happening now for a while .

I was thinking about you with the carrier and how your body would cope with it. If you usually walk your dog on the pavement as opposed to through fields, then a pram would be easier in many ways. Or get yer bloke to carry the baby of course!

ski I think that skiing and riding will have statistically high rates of injuries than many other sports seen as high risk. YOB used to sky dive for instance, and while that sounds risky it's a bit of an all-or-nothing thing . Of course, it is very much dependant on how good you are and so you'll be massively lower risk than, say, me. Last time I went onto snow I was about 12 and decided that as I'd done some dry-slopes I knew what I was doing. Turned out, as I flew through the button lift thing, comically knocking people sideways, I wasn't as good as I thought I was .

My point was more that perception of risk is generally poor, and I agree that it's not a good thing to give up what you love!

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givecarrotsachance · 23/11/2009 12:23

Oh behind on the thread now. I'm the one in the corner noone's gonna listen to coz she is talking about a convo 5 minutes ago

cunty grr@ odd symptom. Hope it clears up soon.

ski VV exciting about scan! Trim.

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skihorse · 23/11/2009 12:25

Funny dog behaviours: Since I've been diffed, big dog won't pee when I've got her on the lead - it's almost like she's constantly "on duty" - so we have to swap dogs and as soon as jailbait takes her she'll pee. (We're still a bit nervous about letting them off the lead in the new park. )

I just think most people are totally shite at skiing! I skiied 4 weeks last year - lots of off-piste and didn't fall once... that's a little negative though, it means I wasn't pushing myself as hard as I should've.

iggypiggy · 23/11/2009 12:45

ski my dog has developed a sudden interest in my dirty knickers the pervert... i have to ensure they all go straight int he washing basket - else i find him 'at them'

iggypiggy · 23/11/2009 16:08

I has booked scan for 7th dec - just noticed same date as ghosty will be 7 + 6 in theory...

CurlyCasper · 23/11/2009 16:11

what time iggy? I'm at 9.30am (snatched at first appointment of the day) Can we hand-hold by means of EPS? Surely there's strength in numbers...

iggypiggy · 23/11/2009 16:12

we'll be holding hands all day then cos mine is at 6pm

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