The PESH Deli serving gin cocktails, blue cheese and softly cooked egg sarnies

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Welcoming all BESH PESH "grads". Full bar service. Today serving:

Softly scrambled eggs with a side order of prawns, moules mariniere, pate on toast, swordfish and tuna bake with a full cheese board of stilton and unpasturised brie.

OK, I'll admit my comment was only a little bit tongue-in-cheek, but different people have different levels of concern about these things. I think I'm somewhere in the middle on the worry spectrum. Also, there was a major Which? report on carseats released when I was pregnant last time and everyone seemed to go into a big tizz over it, so DH insisted we got the really safe one. It's been great.

I for one will not worry about "safety stats" - I've had my 1 serious car accident for life and I stepped out unscathed. If it's a big-un tbh I don't think anything except a shark cage will save the baby. It's all a bit "blue cheese" to me.

I can see how easy it is to pile on the weight. So far today I have had 3 pieces of toast and marmite, a bacon roll and a yoghurt. Eating stops the quease.

Cossie That's definitely true - the eating stopping the quease - but it was much worse in the early weeks where you are now and my weight was going up and down all the time, however 11 weeks in and I'm up 2lbs so it's all worked out OK in the end.

... and healthy eating seems to have gone out of the window. I have just found myself craving a microwave meal!

I'm about 5 lbs heavier than normal just now, but a lot of that has been around since Nov/ early Dec and is just greediness!

Could it also just be seasonal/xmas podge? How are you feeling anyway? I threw up again this morning and I was so hoping all of that was over.

Yeah, it's seasonal / xmas / it's been snowing so not done much riding therefore been doing more eating podge. I am getting a fat back. lovely.

I'm feeling basically fine as long as I ignore the quease. I am getting a lot of pulling kind of wombular sensations, but I think that's normal. Oh and constipation still. lovely.

sorry you threw up again. Shall I hold your hair back?

haha it's OK, jailbait comes running every time, pulls faces, holds my hair, pats my back and flushes. Always looking after me!

I got some pinchy almost painful wombular things at first but it's passed - like cunty mentioned just up there, there is still the odd twinge but I think it may more be gas.

How did your family take it all? I know you were desperate to tell everyone!

A fat back? I have two fronts and have done since I stopped playing hockey 2 years ago.

Got my Down's test results in the post this morning. Screen negative and 1:820 chance apparently. Assume this is good, but no idea quite where 1:820 appears on the scale of ok-ness. Any idea anyone?

It's not bad at all! 1:30 is bad!

I scared the shit out of TGO on Monday. I was in the toilet throwing up and I whimpered pathetically ?can you come, I need you? sob. So he came running, convinced he was going to find me and a toilet full of blood. I think to find me sitting on the floor in a shivering heap of sweaty teary vomitiness was a massive relief.

Mil was over the moon, fuss fuss fuss and kept enquiring if I wanted any food, what I was allowed, etc etc. And then reminiscing about TGO being a baby.

My dad said he was pleased. Which in his language means he was actually jumping up and down yelling ?I?m going to be a granddad? to the entire world.

Hang on, let me be sensible for a mo, I believe that in the "general population", i.e., not just old bags like us, it should be 1:1000 - so you're only a small percentage off. I believe very old wimmins such as us it's supposed to be 1:300.

they told us anything over 1 in 200 is good. so 1 in 820 sound pretty good to me.

Cosmo haha - bit stoic is he your dad? My dad hasn't said much... but I gather he's happy. In a way which a man from the Highlands is able to express such things - i.e., via the medium of golf or a "long walk over the hills".

Is TGO suitably looking after you - and any decision yet as to whether you'll be able to go back to Italy for more riding (eating)?

cunty Anything worse than 1:200 is considered high risk so you are well in the clear. Four times less risk than the cutoff point for when they would suggest further tests. If you were more (i.e. less) than 1:200 they would invite you to have amnio testing (the invasive one).

I have also just got my results. 1:1,100 which I am very relieved about. The average risk based on my age alone is 1:73 so the test result is a huge relief.

cosmos Have you decided on a strategy / excuse for tonight yet?

Ski you could say that, yes we do a great line in burying feelings in my family.

Not doing Italy next year we've decided, we're probs going to scotland instead in June. Will go back to Italy the year after, once we've persuaded our friends who run the holiday company to find a childcare element.

TGO is looking after me too well, he keeps vetting everything I eat!

Pony we're possibly going for the just "am not drinking tonight becuase I'm driving home" and leave it at that. Let them speculate.

ok, I now know what you all mean by sore norks. I am in agony across my whole chest and back as well as my actual tits and they've turned a lovely shade of bright blue. Surely this means growth? (please?)

Constipation has eased a bit, thank fuck, but sinusitis remains and headaches are increasingly frequent. Oh, and I managed five thunderous pees overnight despite having had one glass of lemonade and one of water since 6pm. Books say all of the above are normal. Meh ... I'm going to be such fun tonight!

Does it really get better in the second trimester (just one week away!)

Anyhoo, hope you all have a lovely night tonight while I am scoffing beef and champagne in good company. Until 2010! (the year when we have our babies - eek!) x

Curly Please to tell us more about your giant blue boobies!

I am feeling very low right now. The exhaustion and being out of breath is really grinding me down. I've slept up to 18 hours a day this holiday and after a 15 minute walk I need to sit down and rest for an hour or two. My bloods came back from the hospital all OK, I'm not deficient in anything and I'm trying to eat a varied and balanced diet but I'm miserable this end. If ever a girl needed a wee stimulant... I'm dreading going back to work on monday as I'm in the middle of a massive project and the pressure is going to be unbelievable and all I want to do is sleep. I'm crying at jailbait because I'm worried he's going to think I'm "putting it on" just to be lazy and use being pregnant as an excuse to do nothing. Of course he knows this isn't the case and he seems far more accepting of my pregnancy in that respect than I am.

Sorry for the moan - I just don't know what to do anymore. Even having a shower knackers me out.

ski You are not alone. What nobody bothers to tell you before you are pregnant is that this intense tiredness is "normal". You should see me - having a shower is practically a whole day's project. I have no idea how I worked full time last pg. (Well actually, I took loads of sick leave, worked from home - in bed with my laptop on my knees, had client meetings by phone and email instead of driving to see them, and was forced on to early maternity leave because of the SPD).

I had a moan to the midwife a couple of weeks ago about how tired I am, how I get dizzy half way up the stairs and have to have a little rest, etc. I said to her "But all these other pregnant women are rushing about totally active." She looked sceptical and said that I would be surprised, but my experience is a lot more typical, it's just that the active ones are the only ones you hear about - which makes everyone else feel crap that they are not like that. I think I believe her.

So anyway - Happy New Year to all. I am still in my pyjamas [proud emoticon] and watching the snow falling outside. Obviously did not manage to stay up until midnight last night, in fact wanted to go to bed at 8:30! Managed to last until just after 10 and then gave up as could not think of any argument in favour of actually seeing in the new year. Sleep is higher priority.

Thank you ponymum. I too get dizzy with stairs and this morning I was panting after playing a 60 second game of football with the dog. I fell asleep on the couch last night at half eight, he woke me up at 11:55 and we watched the fireworks... from bed.

boobs have eased off today, which is both and

ski I hear you! I am completely fucked. Poor dog is going to think I hate her cause I never manage to take her for a good walk (Sff is off doing this right now while I lie on bed at the ILs).

Did manage to go to cinema this avo though - Sherlock Holmes. Felt like I was going to drift off a couple of times, and did have to leave to pee twice

I too have the dread for Monday - so many new projects for me to be getting on with. I'm just praying for a sudden lift in the second trimester - I badly need it. Take care

Pony triple points for the PJs! Much respect. Early maternity leave is my current worst nightmare, because I can't really afford more than six months off. I hope it goes better for you this time xx

Well so much for lazing around in my PJs at 3:45 yesterday. Just after I posted the phone rang and it was MrP on his way back from the shop, saying the road was blocked with stuck cars and he couldn't get through. The worst part was he had taken the foal with him for the ride, so he was now stuck in the middle of nowhere in the snow with a very hungry upset baby.

He tried another way but it was blocked with a massive snow drift, then had a look at a really steep hill route but came across a nightmare scene of cars all over the place off the road. MrP had to leave the foal in the car while he ran up to the top of the hill to stop other cars coming down. At least she was warm, though screaming for food.

I frantically pulled on walking boots and snow gear, grabbed some food for the foal, a torch, blanket, etc, and decided to try to drive the other car as for as the bottom of the hill and then walk up to meet them. Calm, moi? No, absolutely friggin' freaking!

Then another guy in a 4WD who was helping MrP looked at his situation and said he thought MrP could probably make it down the hill as he was in a Land Rover. Brave MrP then somehow 'drove' down the hill successfully avoiding the stranded cars. (Only when I say 'drove' I mean 'slid down the icy slope attempting to steer'.)

Talk about relieved. The foal was a bit shocked but absolutely fine once she'd had something to eat. As for me I think I'm still in shock. I have no need for such levels of adrenaline in my life, thank you.

Although strangely I actually forgot I was pregnant in the middle of all that. When I pulled on my ski trousers and couldn't do up the button I thought 'What? I really must lose some weight.'

Ponymum What a palava! Well done for hitching up yer britches and getting on with it! Must admit I'm not looking forward to going back to work on monday if the roads are bad, although I've got motorway nearly door-to-door and if it's really shitty bollocking I can work from home/take the train.

I've had a very successful day. I was showered and dressed by 2pm! Strolled in to town for some sales. Totally failed with pants - the giant stretchy shorts I wanted were only available in S and XS . Got a bra for 6 euros with matching pants for 2.50. Tried on a pair of pregnancy jeans but they weren't bootleg so I'll wait until I really need them. Got a couple of wrap cardies, a very plungey in at the waist top which is boobilicious and has room for a bump - but because it is gathered at the waist there is a difference between tits and bump, so I shouldn't look like a total heffalump. Plus 2 maternity vest tops. Also, and this is my favourite bit - got a pair of shoes and a pair of boots from Sacha for a grand total of 49 euros! I always do well in Sacha for some reason but I'd never pay full whack in there. Also got a very long belt for hanging around bump, a "buikband" which is like a snood type thing to go around your belly, it's supposed to cover the gap between real clothes being unzipped and you giving in and buying maternity wear. Oh, and more pyjama bottoms - you can never have too many pyjama bottoms. I think that's it. I am now back home safe and sound on the sofa. The shoes are sensible to walk in, 3" heel but not stiletto - boots however are stilettos so I'm not sure how much wear I'll get out of them this winter... perhaps better for next year. I'm really chuffed anyway for the energy if nothing else! Stand by for me to sleep through the next 48 hours following such exertion!

Well done Casper for the cinema! I really want to go but there is absolutely nothing I want to see right now.

Hi everyone,

I've been somewhat offline and I'm trying to "break the link" on the basis that I was spending far too much time at work talking to you guys. I'm also thinking of cutting off my other place butter dish link. I would just check out the PESH palace and leave it at that.

So, trying to catch up.

cunty Can't remember your stats now but it was something like 1:800, right, meaning 799 in 800 babies are going to be born without Downs. Sounds good to me.

ski I had a dream you bought a new belt. Ho hum. I've never suffered from the tiredness as much as you are but it's been really tough even so, and you had the terrible nausea and vomiting to deal with which is just exhausting in itself. I have had nausea but nothing like you have. I am just really lucky - it seems what you and others are suffering with is much more "normal" - and it WILL pass. I've been feeling much better the last few weeks although this morning I felt terrible, but that's really a one-off. I'm not sure that pony is right about there being preggos who run around all the time . I've never seen any! But of couse if there are, they'll be the ones you notice. Mostly you don't see the ones sitting at home in their pjs. And they're just lucky, it's not something they've done or not done. It's like I always assumed that kids were always in the way, running around and making noises (which is prob why I didn't have any in my 20s). My friend pointed out that you only notice the noisy/naughty ones, not the quiet, well behaved ones.

cosmo so sorry you're having it so badly. It's ironic that a couple of weeks ago you were feeling that you weren't feeling anything - at the time I was feeling (relatively) terrible and now you're getting it really badly and I'm back in limbo, feeling much better (mostly). My belly has gone down, boobs deflated, nausea mostly gone... very strange between-time. for you.

pony eeek, sounds awful. Glad all was ok in the end. Good on the landie , we love 'em.

casper Saw you'd had a good time up North. With you on the dog thing. I managed a decent one a couple of days ago which was lurvely, but generally being a really neglectful doggy mummy.

We had a lovely Christmas and my doggy seems to have got used to my mother's fairly new doggie and didn't try to eat him, which was a bonus. On NYD we went on my dad's riverboat to try a trip down the canal, but a 2" layer of ice stopped that in its tracks so we had a BBQ by the canalside instead. Afterwards we walked the dogs down the canalside with LC jumping on every iced puddle and giggling like the child he is - fantastic fun. He was SO naughty and utterly horrible the morning before that I was planning to Freecycle him, and he ended up not going ice skating with his cousins as we'd promised (although we took him with us so he had to watch them having fun, giving me an excuse not to have to go on the ice which was great, as I'm a crap ice skater) and since then he's been an angel. Away this weekend though and I'm missing him terribly

I'm back at work in Tuesday but don't work Fridays so this week isn't going to be too bad. Monday 11th is our Nuchal Fold scan but we won't know the results until the week after, and at that point we'll be making a formal announcement.

I think we've organised our trip to Ukraine for my brother's wedding. Bless him, he's organised the date around my EDD and I'll be flying back 8 weeks before I'm due. I'm really looking forward to it. Crimea is so beautiful and it's just going to be brilliant. Getting there is a pain as it seems like we're going to have to get to Kiev, and stay there overnight and then fly down to Crimea, but I think that my bro is coming to meet us in Kiev so we won't be on our own which is nice, as few people speak English and my Russian is limited to "vodka, puzhalsta" which is not too useful given my condition. Fortunately, my bro is fluent so we will be fine when he's around.