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glaskham · 13/06/2009 09:40

New thread ladies... lets hope its a good un!!

Births:
Kay - 12th December - 6:49pm - Dylan George - 10lbs 5ozs
Teuch- - - boy
Pop - 23rd December - twin boys, Hugo & Henry
Nat - 27th December - 8:36pm - Mikey Bradley - 6lb 10.5oz
Gin - 16th Jan- Girl - 7.25am- details tbc
Tink- 19th Jan - Girl - 1.51pm - Bracken Hope Willow - 8lbs 7oz
Astarte - 16th Feb - Girl - 8lb 12oz
Glask - 20th Feb - Girl - 7.47pm - Ruby Marie 4lb (8wks prem)
LardyBump - 21st Feb- Boy - 8lb 12oz
HappyNappies- 27th Feb- Boy - 12.01am 9lb13 Edward James Roy
Playing - 4th March - boy - 5 lb 12 oz - Edward Lewis Stainer
Starshinetiger - 15th March - girl - 7lb 1 oz - Charlotte Carys Rose
GYo - 22nd March 9.55am- girl - 10 lbs 12 oz -
Cosmo - 2nd April - girl - April Victoria - 8.51am - 6lb 9
Gruff - 15th April - boy - 8lb 2 oz - 6.02am Zachary John Graham
Ses - 9th May - boy - 8lb 9oz - 10.17am Owen Edward
MINM- .......

Weeks list:
Diege - 38 weeks, 2 left to go. Boy!!!!(21st June)
LBOT - 33 weeks, 7 left to go BOY! (24th July)
KookyKid - 26 weeks, 14 weeks to go (2nd Sept) BOY!
Idreamofbeanie - 24 weeks (due 27th Sept) GIRL!
Sparklytwinkletoes - 19 weeks (due 6th Oct)
BB - 18 weeks (EDD 30th oct)
Moosy - 14 weeks (EDD 6th Dec)
Claire236 - 5 weeks (EDD 7 Dec)

Girls = 8
Boys= 9 (3 more still insitu)
Surprise = 10
Unknowns (yet) = 3

Scan list:
STT - 20 week scan 21st May
BB - 20 week scan 11th june 09 (not finding out sex)
Moosy - 20 week scan 22nd July

MW apps list:
IDOB- 24 week apt 9th June
BB- 17th july MW, Antenatal clinic 15th june
LBOT - 36 week appointment, 25 June
Diege - 38 week appointment, 11th June.

Mat leave countdown:
Diege - Annual leave, proper mat leave starting 15th June.
LBOT - last day 17 July (I think!) 26 days to go
BB- AGES!!!
IDOB - 4th September, 13 weeks.

Babys Age
Kayz's Dylan - 26 weeks
Tinks Bracken - 20 weeks
Glaskham's Ruby - 16 weeks
Gyo's small giraffe - 10 weeks
Cosmo baby - 8 weeks
Ses's Owen - 3 weeks

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idreamofbeanie · 19/06/2009 09:45

Morning Glask - sorry DS is sick and you are stuck in the house. I would quite like to be stuck in the house today, I'm shattered for some reason and quite fancied a morning on the sofa in front of the tv. Just dragged myself into work . Thank God it's Friday!

BNJP - DS is sick, poor little tike but hopefully he'll be over it soon and you'll see the benefits of dairy free + meds. Hope DD behaves herself today.

Gyo - enjoy your last day of your hols!

Cosmo - LOL at 12 month pregnancy, sure it must have felt it at times.

glaskham · 19/06/2009 09:49

Cosmo- definatley not- if she needs changing she needs changing.... luckily my DH isn't bothered as long as i do it in public- he can only get in the 'zone' for nappy changes in our own home- very odd indeed... I dont understand why some men are funny about public nappy changes... and if its in your car boot thats less public than on your knee in the middle of town as i have had to do before!!

IDOB- i'm considering getting a big mat in the garden and doing arts and crafts outside... take a sick bucket for DS... He's only been sick once more thoguh... and its just because he's coughing so badly!! Poor thing.

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julesisindahouse · 19/06/2009 10:28

morning

sorry for people being confined to the house

great news ses owen is doing great!!

have just bought wii family ski and wii board charger from amazon

bracken is 5 months today cant believe it
didnt do her dream feed @ 10pm last night and she slet till 7am

NatalieJane · 19/06/2009 11:30

Good morning

It's Frrrrrrrrriiiiiiiiiidayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy whooooooooooooooooooooooooooo hooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo (Can you tell it's my night off tonight?!!) Thing is, friend is on hols for next two weeks, and it's my birthday on Monday, and her DH's on the 30th, so we have a lot of wine to get through for missing two fridays and two birthdays!

Went all the way to Brum to see this sodding car, it was described as 'unmarked' 'good condition' - was it bollocks, the seats/carpets were all marked and stained, the back seat had chewing gum wrappers all over it, it had massive scratches going across the passenger side, looked like a shopping trolley had ran into it, and there was 6 inches of paint scraped off the back end, down to the metal. Wouldn't mind but between the fuel to get down there and back, dinner out, DH taking the time off work, and the over time he lost for doing so, and the HPI check we paid for it cost us over £100, the kids were a bloody nightmare especially on the way back, and the bloke who owns the garage told DH to ring him when we set off so he'd be sure to be there, he wasn't We weren't best pleased! And of course, now we are back to square one, and we have to go through it all again

On the plus side, I have found a house, OMG, it is gorgeous, I am officially in love, just hoping and praying it'll still be available in Sept/Oct! Do you wanna see? Only down side is the number of bathrooms/toilets, I'm going to be the fucker cleaning them all Anyway, it's here

Sold my doppler on eBay last week, got an email last night saying they found it, royal mail had chucked it over their side gate, the box was wet but apparently the doppler wasn't, but now she's saying there is no sound coming out of it grrrrrr, I checked it before I packaged it up, it was fine, so either RM did chuck it, or she's pulling a fast one. Am awaiting that one! Thing is, she's left good feedback nice comments, so if she thinks there is something wrong with it, why leave good feedback?

I am warbling, have got that Friday mood kicking me thinks Whooooooooo hooooooooooooooo it's FRIDAYYYYYYYYYY

idreamofbeanie · 19/06/2009 11:37

Wow NJ - that house is gorgeous and not much more expensive than my 2 bed rental in York. Fingers crossed it is still available when you are ready to move!

That's crap about the car - why do people bother ? Do they think people will turn up and go "well it's a manky tip but since we have driven down we'll just buy it anyway" . Idiot . Put it (and strange e-bay woman) out of your mind and enjoy your night out . You make me feel so old - I am really looking forward to an evening on the sofa with a take-put and dvd.

NatalieJane · 19/06/2009 11:49

It is rather lovely innit?! It's twice, the width of ours, and at least half again of ours on the depth, then plus the conservetory on the back of that. Just wish there was more pictures and info, I want to know the lay out and the bedroom sizes, and the size of the kitchen, and oh everything! LOL There is another one, here that we like, well except that bedroom with the blue carpet, that would have to go, along with the curtains everywhere! But, it's £100 more a month, and I fail to see what we'd be gaining on the other house, both are in good areas with good schools, so it can't be down to that, infact the 'sold' prices in the area of the first house are higher than than the second, which says to me that the area is at least more desirable?

The chinese food and DVD night is reserved for tomorrow, one extreme to the other!

glaskham · 19/06/2009 12:15

Nat- thats house in preston is stunning!! and not that far from me really... if you moved there we'd have to meet in preston for lunch/shopping etc...

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julesisindahouse · 19/06/2009 12:39

hi

hi nat - hope is lush
some people what a pain about the car!!
have a great wknd and bday mon

NatalieJane · 19/06/2009 12:40

LOL I need to go and clean the kitchen while DS2 is asleep, but I can't stop staring at the pictures, keep thinking I've missed something that will give me some more clues as to the rest of the house I've seen it on Google Earth, the back garden doesn't look as big as we'd like, but, having said that, it's bigger than ours, and since they can only really comfortably play out there in the few weeks of the year it's not raining, is it the end of the world if the house that we'll be in every day of the year is everything we want and more? Arghhhhh decisions decisions! Just keeping everything crossed that it either isn't available till September/October, or that it is still available then. I want that house! It is deffo the best of what we've seen so far, a few came close, and one that has gone already was very very very nearly as good, but this one is just exactly, really proper exactly what we're after.

And the other one I linked to, as well as it being £100 more, it has a bedroom less, (though we don't really need 5 anyway) and the windows in the roof of the Preston one makes me think it is 3 floors, so the rooms - I'm guessing - will be bigger throughout, there's more room for them IYKWIM?

Right, am going to stop staring and boring you guys with my thoughts and do the kitchen!

bumpsnowjustplump · 19/06/2009 12:42

Well we went to friends house (she said it was fine) in the end DS has had two feeds and not been sick. no more poo's either and to top it off dd had 5 wees on the potty while there and no accidents. I feel 100% better than I did this morning and am so pleased and proud of both my children.....

lastboxoftampons · 19/06/2009 12:42

Hello everyone!

Nat that house is great! Fingers crossed it's still there when you're ready to move! And about the car!

Glask sorry your little guy is not well, but arts and crafts in the garden sounds lovely.

Cosmo - your DH is being silly! Would he rather you carry around a baby with a dirty nappy? I think the smell would eventually be more embarrassing than the nappy change

BNJP - so sorry DS was sick again but that was a great sleep! Hope he gets better soon.

IDOB - I'm feeling the same, could've done with a day on the couch myself - brownie??

GYO - sorry your hols are over, but glad you had such a great time! And only one blow up with DH? Sounds like a record in my book My FIL isn't really hard work while he's around - he's actually really pleasant, easy to talk to, etc, it's not until after he leaves that you realize he's left a mess in his wake DH says it's because his stepmother has been picking up after his father for the past 25+ years - let that be a lesson to all of us, we'll not have any perpetuating of bad habits, it just turns them into useless old men!!!

Ses - GREAT news about Owen's weight gain! That's fabulous! I guess it really was his tongue tie! He's on the right track now. Well done you!

I have a question for the moses basket users among us...Should we get a stand or put it on the floor? We're borrowing one from a friend and I thought we would get a rocking stand. DH thinks it's not safe and it might tip. I think most of the people we know just had the mb on the floor - but I know at least two of them have carpet and we have floor boards. Would it be too drafty on the floor? Is a stationary stand better than a rocking one? Thoughts appreciated! Thank you!

bumpsnowjustplump · 19/06/2009 12:43

I have a stand but it isn't a rocking one. I wouldn't put it on the floor as it may be drafty down there also it may be easier to have an accident if it is on the floor... Rocking stands are very safe we had one with dd and it never tipped up...

lastboxoftampons · 19/06/2009 12:52

thanks, Bump Oh, and glad your morning outing was successful! Your little kiddies sound like they were angels!

Oh, and
"Wow, you are getting SO big! By the way, I totally mean that as a compliment"

Does anyone see ANYTHING in there that might be a compliment???

bumpsnowjustplump · 19/06/2009 12:56

I know how that feels LBOT... I used to say that I was keeping my baby warm and fed whats your excuse!!!!

Diege · 19/06/2009 13:16

Hello! Good to read everyone's news. Glad things have picked up for you LB . NAT, house(s) sound great - not far from Preston here too, so go for that one and we can meet up with Glask .
LOL LBOX about the 'compliment' , back-handed at best! Remember feeling extremely cross about those kind of comments, but then the 'compliment' bit sort of throws you!
Well not feeling too great here. Have been very tearful from about Tuesday really, but it's been non-stop today . Feel really awful, hard to describe, just constantly crying and keep on going over what went wrong in the labour etc. Must contact the head of midwifery to sort out 'debrief', but don't want to take away from what should be a joyful experience by being self-indulgent and wallowing in it all. Dh has been great, but think it's a combination of bad nights (Jacob has day/night confusion that even gf would walk away from!)hormones, and some pretty questionable midwifery in the labour that has led to this. Don't get me wrong, Jacob is a darling, but I have this awful sense of loss about the labour - as dh says he's here now and we have to look forward, but just can't stop crying.
Anyway, on that cheerful note I'll stop wallowing. Just felt I wanted to say something about it to you all as you have all been towers of strength to me before, during after after the pregnancy!

lastboxoftampons · 19/06/2009 13:36

Oh, Diege I'm so sorry you're feeling so down. I was going to say exactly what your DH has said. What's done is done and you've got to move on now. Enjoy your little boy now that he's here - because the important bit is that he IS here and he's beautiful and healthy and it doesn't matter so much how he got here. 3 out of 4 good births is not a bad statistic! If you feel let down by the midwives, then you should make your concerns known to the powers that be - hopefully that will bring you some closure - but please don't dwell on it, or let reflect on how you feel about your baby.

Cheer up, you'll soon be spending afternoons with Nadal! Big blatant hugs and brownies too! xx

Cosmogirl · 19/06/2009 14:00

Ah Diege I had some AWFUL midwives during my birth - really nasty - didn't seem to care about me or listen to what I said. If it hadn't been for the fifth and amazing midwife at the end the whole thing could have ended very differently. I know it isn't easy, but try not to go over things too much...I do think the care you get makes a big difference though so if you feel it will help you come to terms with things then do push for the meeting and to see your notes.

Also give yourself time - it is such early days and you've just been through a major operation x

lastboxoftampons · 19/06/2009 14:22

Births:
Kay - 12th December - 6:49pm - Dylan George - 10lbs 5ozs
Teuch- - - boy
Pop - 23rd December - twin boys, Hugo & Henry
Nat - 27th December - 8:36pm - Mikey Bradley - 6lb 10.5oz
Gin - 16th Jan- Girl - 7.25am- details tbc
Tink- 19th Jan - Girl - 1.51pm - Bracken Hope Willow - 8lbs 7oz
Astarte - 16th Feb - Girl - 8lb 12oz
Glask - 20th Feb - Girl - 7.47pm - Ruby Marie 4lb (8wks prem)
LardyBump - 21st Feb- Boy - 8lb 12oz
HappyNappies- 27th Feb- Boy - 12.01am 9lb13 Edward James Roy
Playing - 4th March - boy - 5 lb 12 oz - Edward Lewis Stainer
Starshinetiger - 15th March - girl - 7lb 1 oz - Charlotte Carys Rose
GYo - 22nd March 9.55am- girl - 10 lbs 12 oz -
Cosmo - 2nd April - girl - April Victoria - 8.51am - 6lb 9
Gruff - 15th April - boy - 8lb 2 oz - 6.02am Zachary John Graham
Ses - 9th May - boy - 8lb 9oz - 10.17am Owen Edward
MINM- .......
Diege - 13th June, boy, 9lb 8ozs Jacob Llewellyn

Weeks list:
LBOT - 35 weeks, 5 left to go BOY! (24th July)
KookyKid - 28 weeks, 12 weeks to go (2nd Sept) BOY!
Idreamofbeanie - 25 weeks (due 27th Sept) GIRL!
Sparklytwinkletoes - 24 weeks (due 6th Oct)
BB - 18 weeks (EDD 30th oct)
Moosy - 15 weeks (EDD 6th Dec)
Claire236 - 5 weeks (EDD 7 Dec)

Girls = 8
Boys= 9 (2 more still insitu)
Surprise = 10
Unknowns (yet) = 3

Scan list:
BB - 20 week scan 11th june 09 (not finding out sex)
Moosy - 20 week scan 22nd July
STT - 38 week scan 17th Sept

MW apps list:
BB- 17th july MW, Antenatal clinic 15th june
LBOT - 36 week appointment, 25 June
Diege - 38 week appointment, 11th June.
IDOB- 28 week apt 9th July
STT - 24 weeks apt 18th June

Mat leave countdown:
LBOT - last day 17 July (I think!) 16 days to go
BB- AGES!!!
IDOB - 4th September, 12 weeks.

Babys Age
Kayz's Dylan - 26 weeks
Tinks Bracken - 21 weeks
Glaskham's Ruby - 16 weeks
Gyo's small giraffe - 10 weeks
Cosmo baby - 8 weeks
Ses's Owen - 5 weeks
Diege's Jacob - 4 days!

bumpsnowjustplump · 19/06/2009 14:27

Diege this is all very normal when you have had a traumatic birth. You need to give yourself time to get over this. It is all very well to say look forward but you will not be able to do this until you are able to put the past behind you and the only way to do that is to come to terms with it.

I think you need to have your meeting asap. When dd was born i had a meeting with the midwifes that were present about what went wrong and why it really did help... I couldn't get over the fact that we nearly lost her and the meeting did give me closure....

Sending you lots of hugs and day 5 is always a bummer (even without the added stress you are having) and your milk is coming in too so no wonder you are feeling so down...

We are all here for you (if you can manage to get on), but you do need to come to terms with what you went through before you can move because you dont want this to linger and tern nasty...

bumpsnowjustplump · 19/06/2009 14:28

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Sparklytwinkletoes · 19/06/2009 14:52

Hi all, its taken me ages to catch up, and I've got to dash to pack bags as we're off for yet another weekend! Next weekend we're at home thank god.

But, before legging it, Diege, I totally know how you feel about the birth and everything and I know how hard it is when you are grateful that your precious LO is here, that it feels like you're somehow detracting from that by being upset.

BUT, if they didn't look after you how you wanted / deserved etc, then you have every right in the world to have a damn good cry about it. A sympathetic midwife came and sat with me at about 2 in the morning, and reviewed my notes with me (DS was keeping me awake!!), which helped a bit. But its only now that I've seen a consultant 2.5 years later that I've found out SO much more about DS' birth that helps to explain why some things had to happen the way they did.

Please, please don't hold anything back, hug Jacob as tight as you can, and allow yourself to grieve for the birth that you had hoped for. I believe that only when you've done that, can you really start to put it behind you.

When you've cried about it - write about it. I don't mean a birth story like you'd necessarily post here, I mean everything, every question, every raised eyebrow that you had, so that you can start to at least get things out of your head, and onto paper. And every time you're doing the cleaning or changing a nappy, and some other "oh yeah, I forgot that x happened too", go and add it to the 'story'.

The story helps relieve stress by 'emptying' your head, and also helps focus on the questions that need answering.

Then, I would strongly recommend getting in touch with PALS. I didn't and I really, really should have done. I could have found out more from my notes that would have meant that I wouldn't have been so upset by it all, as some of it was completely justified. However, there are some chunks that remain completely inexcusable and others may have experienced the same because I didn't highlight them.

I've just re-read this and am concerned that it sounds like I'm telling you to sit down and cry, but I'm just trying to say that its really OK to do just that, because then there will come a time when the grieving is over and the healing can begin. In the meantime, just keep cuddling your precious, precious little boy. I so wish I could give you a hug.

The memories of the birth experience do fade, as there just isn't enough room in your head for bad memories when there are so many wonderful new ones to be stored. You just have to give yourself time.

XXX

(and I promised myself I wouldn't mention hormones either, I did well didn't I )

Sparklytwinkletoes · 19/06/2009 14:54

Oooh, I yabbered so much I x-posted, if you can't be bothered to read mine, just read LB's!! She's far more succint!!!

Diege · 19/06/2009 15:31

Thank you so much SKK and LB (and LBOX and COSMO too), you've put into words exactly how it is that I'm feeling, and I'm touched that you've taken the time to tell me your stories and offer your advice. I'm going to print out and show dh too, as you're more eloquent than me. I didn't realise (SKK and LB) that you'd both had difficult/traumatic births, and I've already started jotting down questions, some of which seem a bit 'malpracticy', others just responses to lack of info'. I don't want to turn back the clock, but just need to be able to put things in order etc; find out why he needed a 'whiff' of oxygen etc, what the gapar scores were etc etc. Thanks again, and for the brownies too! We're getting through rather a lot on the wagon at the moment!

Diege · 19/06/2009 15:32

Sorry STT, for some reason I always refer to you as SKK!!!??

julesisindahouse · 19/06/2009 16:32

hi

bumps well done you and the kids

lboftmpn - we had a stand for moses basket not a rocking one just a stationery one i found it very good.
i would have thought it would be safer than having the moses on the floor less l;ikely to trip over it by using a stand

diege - it is hard isnt it when you have just given birth especially when it goes traumatically and not how you expected.
with my dd1 birth was dreadful dint feel in control, had just gas and air failed epidural,ventouse and 2nd nearly 3rd degree tearing, was very painful down there for 3 weeks couldnt stand or walk for 2 weeks.
wear as this time round was alot quicker but was more in control.
had 2nd degree tear again hardly felt as painful had alot less stitches.
i found typing up last birth helpful to get it all out in my head.
it is so hard when newborns have day and night confusion especially the grizzling in the early evening.
sure all will be fine. as others said i wouldnt worry about crying it is proberly better to cry then to keep it all inside.

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