Due August '09 part 2 - 'Bring on the bumps- we're not fat we're pregnant!'

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Thought I'd better get our shiny new thread up and running. New title courtesy of BumpBLump

part 3 thread title is bagsy(ed) by kitkatqueen, 'Its the second trimester!! - Does my bump look big in this???'

here's a link to our old thread.

ameNbump, I also spoke too soon re: MS being over. Puked in the shower after posting, then again in the hospital sink after having blood taken. Phlebotomist was quite surprised!

queenoftheharpies, completely agree with your sentiments, pregnancy/house purchase v. similar.

scummymummy, glad FIL is recovering well and you're sort of getting your life back!

may67, good news about your mum, hope she stays well.

The GP agreed it sounded like I have SPD, has referred me to physio and signed me off for another 4 weeks. At this rate I probably won't end up going back at all. Walking from the car park to the hospital took 3 times as long as normal and was pretty uncomfortable. I am shuffling like an old lady. Glad to be back with arse on the sofa.

I saw SUCH a nice MW before the triple test! She was just lovely and comforting, I desperately wanted to hug her.

sorry sarah76 and others still puking! i've just started feeling good this last 2 weeks. it has to stop soon, it has to..

olivo i'm going to look at your other thread now. hopefully you shouldn't have much opposition as your 1st was so traumatic. mw told me to be prepared for a fight but she also favours vbac and was a bit patronising.

sarah76 - get yourself to an osteopath as well if you can afford it, i've seen a lot of posts from women on the pregnancy board saying that osteopathy really helped with their SPD. i have crappy joints generally so am going to the expectant mothers' clinic at the british school of osteopathy once a month whilst i'm pg to keep an eye on everything and so far so good - have had a couple of twinges around my lower back and hips but that's about it.

LOL...just googled osteopaths in my area, and the one that came up is called....

Martin J. Murgatroyd

Not sure I could take him seriously. I'm very immature like that.

i think i would have LOLed as well.

Would be worse if it was Murgatroyd Martin...

Hope you manage to get some luck with your SPD. I'm really thrilled and amazed how much better mine is, probably because it's so soon in the pregnancy. I'm not enjoying wearing flat shoes though!

Got a parcel of Maternity clothes from New Look today. Four vests, a top and a nice big cardigan I wish more shops had maternity clothes in stock, but don't suppose it matters.

Oh, to anyone with pelvic pain, my top tip do not try trousers on in shop changing rooms. It's a KILLER! So online ordering probably is the best way to go. I must get some nice blue jeans, as the ones I have are a size too big and a baggy style to start with so I just look a scruff!

Ta, nutty.

Hi all,
Lots of posts since I was last here.
Queenoftheharpies you made me

I have had a pretty shitty few days.
Can't seem to shift these awful headaches, then had two days of diarrhea just to cheer me up. When I went to GP yesterday they planted the worry that it could be pre-eclampsia as they did find protien in the wee sample I did.
Of course was V worried and have spoken to the midwives twice now who were lovely and reassuring- it is apparently highly unlikely it is Pre- eclampsia (I am only 20 weeks, have history of headaches/migraines plus I actually have low blood pressure usually and mine has not raised significantly.) But you know what is like when someone plants a seed...and Im such a worrier.
I just wish I could get rid of these headaches. I am drinking so much water I think I may start leeking!

Mamamila re. what you are told about cs vs vbac, take it with a pinch of salt and do your own research, IMHO!!!

My consultant said they would let me 'attempt a trial of scar' if I insisted but with an 'untried pelvis' and my past 'obs history' there were 'other options'. That's when I told him I was having a homebirth! His face fell and then spent ages skirting around and hinting at maternal and infant mortality and when I didn't waiver he dramatically declared he 'just didn't want me to die'.

When a woman has previous experiences, it TOTALLY affects your opinion, and as Haribosmummy said a woman should have the right to choose and that choice should be respected!

mamamila, when will you get the amnio results?

Mamamila - GOod luck for the Amnio results.

LFS - I can't believe your consultant said that... . I thought most places were quite pro VBAC if the mother wished to labour naturally. Will you just have your IM and DH with you?

Well, I've sort of made a decision about my care - With DS, I had my ante natal care at St Thomas' Lansdell suite, but transferred to The POrtland for the delivery, because DS came early and St Thomas' was full.. .It looks unlikely I'll get accepted into St Thomas' this time because they are full already, so I'm going to do the same thing... Ante natal care at the Lansdell and then switch to The Portland for the actual birth.... I feel happy with that decision!

BumpVlump - Just a thought, but do you think all the water is stripping your body of nutrients and making the headaches worse? Maybe you could try an isotonic drink? Just a thought?

BumpVLump - I had a week or two of headaches and I think it was because my Iron levels were low. Could this be the case for you? Certainly improved since I've been taking the tablets.

BumpvLump - I had headaches, Spatone helped a bit but the best thing I did was take a full day of bed rest (advised to by midwife) and that really helped. I do have to try and get some extra rest at a weekend or the headaches come back.

LFS - at your consultant and too.

hi again,

amnio results probably monday. they need 24-48hrs but don't work saturday so unlikely i'll hear tomorrow. it's going to be a bloody long weekend!

until this test result my biggest worry was being refused another cs, i'd just assumed it would be my choice and i'd have to really insist if i wanted vbac. my mw's reaction really threw me, she kind of quashed all hope. i will insist for what it's worth but she seemed certain i wouldn't get anywhere.
i am totally terrified by the idea of vbac, it took me more than 10 years to get over the horror of my first natural birth.

i wonder how olivo got on today..?

haribosmummy lucky you giving birth at the portland!, i had some of my antenatal care there last pregnancy, it was brilliant and i loved being welcomed with air kisses by the consultant.
the bit with nhs that shocks me is having requests refused. like the dr refusing to check during scan today for any soft markers for downs as that wasn't her remit.

bumpvlump full sympathies for migraines, have you tried any of the forehead strips or essential oil roll ons?

sarah76 someone has just given me a belt thing for pelvic pain. like a big unsexy wrestler belt, maybe worth a try

Airkisses, mamamila???, they must be optional extras!! I never got airkisses!! Seriously, though, yes, I was very happy with the Portland and will be happy to go there again.

sorry you are going to have to wait over the weekend for the results. I hope you can try and relax! I do find it ironic and maddening that people who wish for VBAC are told (in terrible fashion) that they ought to have a CS and yet women who would like a CS are stressed because of the possibility they will be made attempt VBAC. I suppose that's one thing I do like about going private - my wishes (whatever they might be) will be respected as long as my baby and I are doing OK.

Olivo - How are you doing?

HM x

Forget what I said earlier this week. The craving for mac and cheese came back, just been to the Trafford Centre again!

Also managed to barf in the carpark right next to some guy's porche, just as he was walking up. I thought he was going to give me a dirty look, but instead he went in his car, then came back out and offered me a bottle of water! Maybe I do look pregnant? Anyway, what a nice man. DH was just impressed by the car.

hi all, sorry to hear so many of you havving probs with appointments and ongoing sickness.
Sarah - think I will pass on your devilled eggs and stick with the gapefruit juice and sun dried tomatoes with mozarello !
I bought some matty jeans in New Look - only ££12 - bargain, normal clothes starting to get tight so am looking for some smart but not too smart stuff for work- everthing seems fairly expensive. Also struggling to find a maternity tankini with reasonable support - have gone from a c to an e already and only 18 weeks.
Hope everyone has a fab weekend.

LFS - I reckon your consultant was sitting in the same lecture at med school as my previous consultant! That is almost word for word what I was told too. I cannot tell you how much I hate that phrase 'trial of scar'.

I specifically asked to avoid that consultant this time and have been assigned another one - who I've been warned will be difficult re home birth/vbac. But I got it last time so I think I'm on pretty solid ground really.

Had 20 week scan and baby very healthy and probably a boy. Wasn't entirely conclusive as the cord was in the way a bit but most likely another boy. DD not too pleased as she wanted a sister, but when I pointed out it meant she could have her bedroom back in 2 years time she perked up. DS delighted with the idea - as are I and DH.

Hi..sorry in advance but i NEED to let off steam about this...

I mentioned to one of the girls I work with that I have spent the whole day vomming in inappropriate places (the clinic bin, at a patients house on a home visit etc etc), to which a male colleague (the only man in the dept) turned round and said...WAIT FOR IT... "You should have thought about that before you got up the duff then, shouldn't you"... WHAT A TWUNT!!!

Is it unreasonable that I spent the rest of the day seething & thinking up adequate(sp?) punishments...such as stapling his eyelids to the desk...or castration by paper scissors!?

Seriously though..not what you need to hear when you've spent your whole day hurling & feeling pretty exhausted & maybe slightly sensitive!!!

Sorry ladies...bit of a rant!

have woken up this morning feeling sick and dizzy, can barely stand ... partner has just asked me whether, perhaps the reason why i'm finding pg so tough is because i'm unfit and not getting enough exercise

AIBU to want to cut off his balls and wear them as earrings?

just read ameNbump's message, maybe we should start a thread on the AIBU board along the lines of 'AIBU to want this man to be punished in a slow and painful manner?'

ameNbump, I am sitting here swearing like a sailor. What a !$£"%ing "£$"£$%£"$%!!!!!!!!!!! I would have been the same....thinking of elaborate revenge fantasies for the rest of the day, and probably every single time I crossed paths with this twat forevermore (I do tend to hold a grudge).

Was he being serious? Or was it an extremely ill-advised joke?

becksydee, YANBU. Is there some kind of stupidity/insensitivity virus going around?

Sorry for all the women having to deal with silly men!!

I'm feeling shattered today - DS was up from 1:30 till 5am!!!!! He's not teething, not ill - just very playful!!!! He's happily finishing his breakfast this morning but I'm feeling done in!!!

Really wondering how on earth I'll cope with two!!!!

WTF is it with men?

Might as well add my rant to it. Sorry it's so long but I need to put it somewhere and I don't know if SIL is on MN or not so here's a bit more private iyswim.

You might remember we fell out with ILs the other week (basically walked out while we were staying there and came home). Well MIL cried to dh's brother and he 'took her side' basically saying we should just ignore all her nasty comments and criticism "cos she doesn't mean half of it and that's just what she's like" . Dh asked his parents not to contact him cos he was upset and wanted a bit of time to think about stuff. He then rang his parents a week later to discuss things and it was decided they'd still come to visit for the weekend but would give us more space than normal (make own arrangements for food etc) to reduce how stressful it is. Anyway it was great, I even made lunch for them, we all got on, sorted everything iyswim. Well the week before they came dh rang his brother who made it clear he didn't want to speak to dh and was a bit iffy about whether they'd visit just after dd's birthday as they'd been planning. Well when the weekend went so well and we've sorted things with ILs we thought dh's brother would be ok...but no. Dh rang him last night and brother was still a bit off with him, said he couldn't understand how dh had told ILs not to call and had then phoned a week later as if nothing was wrong and said that FIL had forwarded the email dh had sent and it had blamed MIL for my ond (it hadn't at all, dh had been trying to explain that her comments upset me because of the pnd). Anyway be all and end all of the convo was that dh's brother thinks we should just ignore MILs remarks and that they upset his (pregnant) wife too but they've learnt to just ignore it and they don't want to visit us cos they're 'in the middle of it'.

Now I get that they feel in the middle but we've sorted things with ILs. I also don't see why his wife and me should be upset and stressed just cos he doesn't want his mummy upset . I know that stress is one of the triggers for my depression and I also know that someone criticising my parenting all the time doesn't do it much good either. I don't see why I should put up with that just so that MIL doesn't turn on the tears. Added to that she didn't criticise stuff this weekend so she can control what she says if she wants to. (should maybe make it clear that she doesn't have any actual opinions - e.g. she'll criticise me for one thing and SIL for the opposite, she moaned erin had too many toys before xmas but after xmas she complained she didn't have enough - I wouldn't object to her giving a proper opinion iykwim).

AIBU to think dh's brother is being a bit ott?