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December 2008 Once you pop you can't stop

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Veggiemummy · 10/12/2008 18:23

surely most of us will go on this one

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traceface · 20/12/2008 20:20

hiccy - sorry you're feeling low. I've been feeling a bit neglectful of dd1 too. It seems whenever I'm trying to spend time with her, dd2 wakes up and wants a feed so I have to go to her. Like you my DH is around at the moment to fill the gap but only till after christmas. Tonight I ended up BFing dd2 whilst reading dd1's bedtime story - I don't think she minded. I think we just have to be a bit creative with how we give them time. DD1 has become very emotional and cuddly, and gets upset at the slightest thing, but I'm sure we'll all find a pattern soon that suits us. I'm sure it's normal to feel weepy about it - can you talk to your mw about it? or have you met your HV yet? Really hope things pick up for you soon. xxx

Indith · 20/12/2008 20:26

Happy due date to me!
Happy due date to me!
I am still big, fat and pregnant,
Happy due date to me!

Still the house of ill here, ds on day 9. Has been happier the past couple of days but has been running a fever so constantly doped up on either calpol or ibuprofen which might have something to do with it! Dh still being typical, ill male (sitting on sofa moaning, having to be reminded constantly to take drugs and which ones he can take when because obviously remembering that lemsip=paracetamol +sudafed, ibuprofen can be taken in between is far too difficult for him). Joy of joys. Good job this one looks like it will be pretty late like its brother!

Oli hope the sickness is nearly over for your house.

Congrats abby and arti

Bablington would you like to finish my pregnancy for me? I'm heartly sick of it!

Sleep vibes to those with small infants and hugs to all those still struggling with feeding.

reban · 20/12/2008 20:26

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/baby_names/670080-Will-my-christmas-baby-hate-me-if-i-call-him
i know it would help if i actually posted a link!

kayzr · 20/12/2008 20:27

Hiccy Sorry you are feeling like that. I have been the same this week. It's like I just don't have the time to play with DS1. But its all working out now.

Feeding is going ok. DS2 is having 30 minutes of breastfeeding and then 2oz of formula. They are coming to weigh him again tomorrow to see if the formula is working and he has put on a decent amount of weight in 48 hours.
MIL is very angry on my behalf and is coming round tomorrow so I am hoping she isn't her when the MW is as I know she will kick up a stink.

reban · 20/12/2008 20:29

indith didnt realise we shared a due date! I too am still big fat and pregnant . got a little down this evening because of it, but guess im over it now, but people now keep predicting im gonna give birth a xmas day which i could really do without!!

Indith · 20/12/2008 20:37

Oh god I know reban "oh so it could be a christmas baby!" followed by "oh a new year baby then" when I say that I went 2 weeks over with ds. MIL was the best though, in her attempt to make me feel better (I don't care, having gone 2 weeks over with ds I am really not bothered at all, though it would be nice to evict the wriggler) said "well at least it will be much bigger so easier to handle. Bigger babies are easier to look after. YO uhave to look at the positive points you know not the negative" Didn't know if I should have throttled her or PMSL. THe latter I think, tis a priceless comment!

artichokes · 20/12/2008 20:45

Hiccy - sorry you feel bad. it is so hard with 2.

today was our first full day home and dd1 was an emotional wreck. she is lovely to dd2 - kissing, hugging, helping. but with dh and i she was clingy and grouchy. she cried more today than i ever remember. she would not nap or eat or let dh go to the loo alone. total nightmare.

dd2 is lovely but won't be put down. she is another moses basket refuser so i have had little to no sleep for 3 nights with labour and looking after her. she never cries if held but objects to being put down. am off to bed now in the vain hope she will agree to go in the basket. night all.

artichokes · 20/12/2008 20:46

i meant to stay - come on baby indith!

reban · 20/12/2008 20:57

i know indith my mil keeps phoning and asking if there are any signs? God its so annoying, she is the sort of person who does not think twice about phoning 5 minutes into a scan/doc appt etc for info, so patience is not her strong point, still every other bugger has text me in the last few days asking the same thing so she is not alone

artichokes · 20/12/2008 21:36

Before I go to bed I am going to paste my birth story. It is long so feel free to ignore.

I was booked for an induction on Saturday 20th Dec so by the 17th I was getting desperate. Despite three sweeps nothing appeared to be happening. I booked an appointment for acupucture in central London at 11am and afterwards I went shopping in Selfridges. When I got home I had some regular braxton hicks which I timed but although they were promisingly regular they were not painful.

That evening the PiLs dropped round with a christmas tree. While we were eating I got a few painful cramps that felt different to what had gone before. I didn't dare believe they were the real thing. The PiLs left at 9pm and the pains were getting more noticable. DH timed them and they were about every 8 mins lasting 45 seconds. Throughout the night they continued and I got no sleep although they were not bad enough to get me up. I timed them on and off. At 3.30am they were getting so bad I decided it was labour and DH woke up and brought me paracetamol and cereal. At that point I thought we would need to be at the hospital before DD woke. However, at about 6am they started to fade and I even drifted off. When DD got up at 7am they all but stopped and I was so depressed that it seemed I had been up all night for no reason.

At 9am DH went to work so he would not waste his paternity leave. However the regular pains started again as soon as he left and I strapped on the TENS. At 11am I called DH home and we spent a few hours decorating the christmas tree and watching christmas music videos while I bounced on the birthing ball and used the TENS. I was scared I would continue in low-level labour until my induction.

Finally at 3.30pm things kicked-off as I tried to head upstairs for a nap. Suddenly I was in a panic, I felt sick and thought I could not cope. I burst into tears as I thought the hospital would not admit me as the pains were still not two every ten minutes. DH called the labour ward and explained I have a phobia of being sick and wanted an anti-emetic shot. They said to come in. However, at first I refused as I was torn between feeling I was in too much pain to move and feeling I had not made enough progress to go to hospital.

We finally got to the hospital at 4.30pm and I must have looked a right state as I was in tears and had a contraction right outside. I kept shouting at DH to hurry. Finally we were allocated a delivery room and a midwife gave me an anti-emetic injection. As soon as I knew I was not going to throw-up I could just about cope with the contractions. I was examined and was disappointed to find I was only 4cm dilated, but was told it was establsihed labour. They asked if I wanted an epidural and despite intentions to go for a natural birth I realised I wanted one more than anything. The anaesthetist and her lovely male assistant arrived pretty quickly but because I am allergic to diamorphine the actual epidural took about 90 mintues to have its full affect. Meanwhile the midwife helped me breathe through the contractions.

Once the epidural was working I was calm and pain free and DH and I watched some crap telly and chatted about names. At 9.30pm I was examined and they realised my waters had broken without us knowing and I was fully dilated but needed to wait for DD's head to turn. The midwives changed shift and we got a man called Graham who turned out to be great. At that point the epidural started to fail and despite a moment of panic this acutally meant that when I was told I could start pushing (at 10.20pm) I could do so effectively. I told Graham how much I feared another forceps birth and after seeing me push once he said I would be fine. He helped me push slowly and calmly with lots of coaching. My legs were totally numb so DH and Graham held one each while I held my knees.

After pushing through four contractions Graham told me to pant as the head was half out. I could acutally see DD emerge which was amazing as I saw nothing with DD1. As soon as she was put on my tummy.

Graham did not rush to cut the cord despite the doctors having said they would incase I bled again. Instead he let DH and I say hello and then he got DH to cut the cord and we cuddled her for about 20 minutes before she was taken to be weighed (all 10lbs 2 oz of her). Meanwhile Graham delivered the placenta and ensured I did not bleed again.

I had one small external tear which Graham got a doctor to sew up because I told him how badly I had previously suffered. The doctor was a star and said she could see the damage done from last time and offered to fix it while I was still under the epidural. So I got painles (and miraculous) minor surgery while I gave DD her first breastfeed.

reban · 20/12/2008 21:41

wow arti you did so well!
congratulations and welcome to your dd xx

JamInMyWellies · 20/12/2008 21:51

Arti fab birth story so pleased for you. 10lb 2oz wow!

theyoungvisiter · 20/12/2008 21:53

congratulations arti! It sounds like you did amazingly.

Kayzr I agree with what everyone else has said - it sound like total bollocks to me - I'm not an expert but I thought babies could safely take at least a week to 10 days to just regain their birth weight let alone start to gain - why are they worried so soon? Is it worth a thread in B&B to get some specialist advice?

BTW DS2 was weighed at birth and not reweighed until he was nearly 3 weeks as my MW team seems to feel that it's much more important how the baby seems, whether it's pooing or not etc. I think it so much depends who you see on the day. Can you request a visit from a different MW?

Indith · 20/12/2008 21:55

lovely story arti

kayzr · 20/12/2008 21:57

I wish I could request a different mw. But hopefully it should be my normal one on Monday. DS2 is being weighed again tomorrow, bit worried about it.

I was about to ring La Leche League as it says 24 hours but it also says that it is manned by mums who might not appreciate late night calls unless it is urgent. Its just that its easier to ring this sort of time as DS1 is in bed and not trying to yell down the phone.

theyoungvisiter · 20/12/2008 22:04

kayzr I just saw that you have another thread - it looks like you are getting good advice there. I'd request a different MW and concentrate on cuddling your lovely boy - it sounds like you are doing amazingly

theyoungvisiter · 20/12/2008 22:06

sorry x-post.

I don't think 10pm is that late but seriously - it sounds like you are doing fine and you've been unlucky enough to get a mad MW.

kayzr · 20/12/2008 22:10

The other MWs describe her as an eccentric spinster. She is the head MW.

Veggiemummy · 20/12/2008 23:25

Katz I think you could have called that is what they are there for. I have to say that mw actually is going against what she is supposed to do. Like someone else mentioned my MW is not doing a weight until next tues which will be 11 days after his birth weighing. She prefers observing and getting me to check his poo and is happy if I say they are yellow curdy hindmilk poos. Kayz your doing brilliantly. I guess one positive is that it is taking your mind off the fact that Aston villa won tonight and we have to win tomorrow to just in 5th by only one point. I keep reminding DH that we have 2healthy boys and should be grateful for that. It doesn't matter where Arsenal come this season. But it is hard not to worry.

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Veggiemummy · 20/12/2008 23:28

Oh and thanks for the birth story Arti brilliant. We have had lots of 10lb plus babies on this thread. Lots of good strong mummies I think.

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VersOComeAllYeFaithful · 21/12/2008 00:08

LLL don't answer late in the eve - i tried a few weeks ago

would do personals but feeling terrible so just came on for pep talk. someone tell me it gets better. thats all am totally exhausted

EffiePerine · 21/12/2008 08:53

Verso: hope things seem better this morning

Arti: beautiful birth story, am sniffing here. Sounds so calm and controlled after your experience with DD1

Any bets on who's next? I'm thinking Reban...

DS on knee and demanding attention so better go!

kayzr · 21/12/2008 09:17

Morning,

Last night was pretty good. He fed well at 11ish and then slept until half 2 then another good feed and we all woke up at half 8.

I'm going to call one of the helplines after the MW has been to see what they suggest. The mixed feeding does seem to be working.

Arti that is a lovely birth story.

Hope everyone is ok. 4 days until Christmas!!!!!!!!!!!

jumpjockey · 21/12/2008 10:08

Arti huge congrats, what a fab birth story and Graham sounds absolutely wonderful. And congrats to you Abby too - two more big babies! We need Bisou to do some kind of stats analysis of the results at the end of the month

verso hon hope the world's looking a bit brighter for you this morning. everyone says the early days are a massive learning curve and the motto to keep in mind is "this will pass"...

I'm afraid i did go a bit fishwifey on the neighbours yesterday - took 4 goes for them to hear me knocking at the door and then this guy answered, when i asked how much longer they'd be going as our baby can't sleep he said "oh we didn't want to bother anyone"?! maybe next time leave the amps at home then??! he said "we won't do it again" in a chastened schoolboy sort of manner but that's not the point - if we'd had a warning we could have planned to be out. Will get dh to pop round later and apologise for me and hope they get the message...

Turniphead1 · 21/12/2008 10:11

arti what an amazing birth story! Well done you. And Graham sounds just lovely, you are right to ring the hospital and thank him as I think you mentioned on your other thread. When I was reading your story I kept thinking of "our Graham" from Blind Date for some reason - although doubt what use he would be in a birth scenario

Kayz so glad you had a better night!

Verso it DOES get better - and will be so worth it in the end. I got up this morning at 8.30 (sorry not to make you jealous, my turn awaits...) to hear my DS and DD engaged in a lovely imaginary game (something to do with menus, pizza and bills) in her bedroom, which is what they do until Mummy or Daddy get up. And I thought how lovely for them (and us!) that they have each other and they get on so well.

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