Jingle Bells, Mysterious Smells, Fab Feb 2009 babies will soon be on their way - Oh what fun it is to waddle around like an overstuffed turkey all day.

[dinkystinky]

Hello lovely ladies, the new thread is open for business

We had a good evening though, even if it wasn?t eating out and it meant that TBD could be with us.

LBB, why not start a thread asking if anyone has breastfed their second child whilst the first was a toddler and hadn?t been breastfed? You may find others who have done it successfully who can give you advice, you might even get some advice on getting the older child involved. The risks with formula are just that, risks. It?s not a guarantee that a baby who was formula fed will get something wrong and it?s not a guarantee that a baby who was breastfed will be healthy. There?s a really good thread on risks in the feeding section.

Hospital?s won?t (shouldn?t) stop you from bottle-feeding and shouldn?t be trying to push you into breastfeeding, but if you?ve said that you are planning on breastfeeding they should be supporting that and giving a bottle to a breastfed baby is not supporting the mother. A bottle at that point can completely undermine breastfeeding and if they were to give a bottle instead of breastfeeding support and the baby refused to breastfeed after that then the parents would be within their rights to go back and complain. But they do need to be backing it up with decent breastfeeding advice and support, which it sounds like LBB wasn?t given.

Dinky, it?s scary the size of babies when they come out! They?re either huge and you wonder where they were kept or tiny and you wonder what else was in there!

Bit upset with my sister. Tink has a bad belly (she?s normally constipated but having tar at the moment, she did two this morning and one last night) my sister knows this and has taken her out. She just called me to say she?s at the office (she works with Mum ? as do one each of Tink?s godmothers and godfathers ? who?s on duty today so she went in with Tink) to say Tink has pooed again and she didn?t take a nappy bag out with her. I said to take her back to the flat as it?s about 2 miles up the road and TBD is home sick so he can have her until my dad (who also works 2 miles away) finishes work and he can bring her home. But no, she doesn?t understand the instructions to get to mine (turn left out of the underpass) so is bringing her 6 miles back to my parents! She called me half an hour ago and has just walked in! I feel so rough at the moment; Mum doesn?t want me on my own with her in case I go into labour. At least my dad will be home soon!

Question to anyone who has had a previous CS, is your scar itchy?

Calico - I too turn into a moody teenager when faced with prolonged parental exposure. Its weird isnt it!

Right - new thread needed in 47 or so posts - so far we've had one vote each for

"Fab Feb 2009 - bumps are a-jumping, mums are a-grumping; roll on the new year"

"Aches, pains, sudden weight gains - anyone would think that Fab Feb 2009 will soon be on their way"

Any more suggestions/votes ladies?

(Calico - think I am a repressed writer; always wanted to be a writer when I was little but took a wrong turn somewhere and ended up a lawyer instead ...)

Bumps are jumping gets my vote as I am defo a grumping!

Seems a lot of us have been on Anti-b's this pg - I wont beat myself up too much then (had a grand total of 2 paracetamol all pg with DS) Hope they kick in soon rosie.

TBM my scar has been itchy on and off for the past few months.

Hope you're ok MrsCY - I fell on mine last month and it hurt like hell - dont know about anti-d tho sorry.

PP Good luck....and breathe!

TBM - didn't have a CS last time but I have an itchy belly all the time. Stretching skin is the culprit.

(Dinky - I wanted to be a vet when I was little and ended up being a textile designer - how did that happen?)

MrsY owch your poor thing If you landed on your bump id just go and get checked out - babies are great at being protected in there but just to put your mind at ease and get the answer to your anti d question. Hope you dont bruise or ache too much xx

grumping and bumping gets my vote too!

Ok, jumping bumps and grumping mums it is then unless anyone else comes up with a briliant thread idea in the next 40 posts...

Nope i reckon thats inspired Dinky

MrsY Hope you and bump ok? Did you give mw a call or anything?

TBM Hope you're feeling better. Thanx for advice, might just do that, start a thread about bf and toddlers. I just remember being so exhausted last time. Part of me doesn't want to bf, but am thinking about it.
Completely agree that they shouldn't hand out bottles the minute you ask for one if stated that bf, but we are talking no help latching, plus 9 hours since last successful feed, plus being kicked off ward at 3am because he wouldn't stop crying...... Anyway, what's done is done. This time I will state mixed feeding I think and that gives me the choice either way doesn't it?

PP considering that you are heavily pregnant I don't think your dad will mind waiting until the new year for a little pressie. Just give him a big hug and tell him how much you love him. There is no gift as good as that one.

rosie glad you got anti-b's, hopefully you'll feel better soon.

I'm going to put some stuff in my notes tonight about my wishes for the birth etc.

Hi all - squiglet has been wriggling around, and seems fine, and I've been so busy tidying and cooking for the party tonight that I didn't notice the pain, and now it's gone, so I guess I'm fine.

Can I offer anyone some smoked salmon mousse, a filled mini yorkshire pudding, or a mini venison burger?

got him cigars as he hasn't got any atm and is waiting til they travel to holland to buy some for himself... dd picked him a scarf too not sure it's quite to his taste... in fact i think it ay be a woman's scarf pmsl

got the dark choc too so tomorrow is truffle making day, i had promised to contribute desert to xmas dinner but none of us every really eats it so i figured truffles to go with the coffee would suit everyone better.

MrsY... i'd ring the mw about it tbh, anti d or not it would still be no harm to get things checked out to be safe. try not to worry though, you'd be surpirsed how many pregnant women have landed on their bump at some point or another and it rarely has bad consequences, the baby is so well padded it re3ally is quite hard to do damage, you're only really in danger if the placenta is at the front and gets a bad knock and i'd imagine you'd have started bleeding by now if you'd damaged the placenta.

on the plus side, despite all my panic i'm now done for xmas besides wrapping 2 presents and making the truffles so tomorrow i get to pu my feet up.... yippee!

rosie, hope the ab's kick in tomorrow for you so you're right for xmas day, nothing worse than feeling wretched xmas day

lbb, like you said, even if you don't feel you can commit to breastfeeding long term there's no harm in giving it a shot for a couple of days, at leasyt then you'll feel good about giving the colostrum and you're not putting pressure on yourself to do it for any longer than you're comfortable with. with dd i always said while i was pregnant that i'd only commit to doing it for the first few days for the colostrum and i think it's how we kept it going because i just kept saying 'i'll just do one more feed' rather than having a set goal in my head that was weeks or even months away. as for your older ds, you'd be surprised how easily they take it when mommy is feeding the baby, i expected huge hassle from dd, especially as she still remembered nursing herself but she was very tolerant of the time i had to sit down with ds and feed him, i would imagine trying to prepare bottles with 2 whinging and screaming at you might be just as tough tbh. at the end of the day... do what you feel comfortable with and feel is best for your family, don't feel pressured into either option

mmmm mini venison burger [fdrool]

by the way, another vote for grumpy bumpy title for the next thread

I'm getting really excited about xmas now. I can't wait to see ds's face when he gets his pressies. My mum got him a rocking horse

What do you all do regarding present opening, all in one go or spaced through day or two so as not to overwhelm?
I'm gonna do altogether I think.

PP Well done for getting everything done today. I've just got to wrap mum's pressie (new handbag) and that's it. We're at hers this year and she just askedme to bring the veg, so the shop was easy enough.

grumpy bumpy please....well done dinky

Hello all - the new grumpy bumpy thread is now open for posts. McDreamy is already there waiting for all of you to join her.

Could I ask one of the more technoliterate ladies to do a link to the Fab Feb 2009 - the bumps are a-jumping, the mums are a-grumping: roll on the new year thread so people can find it.

Cheers

new Feb thread

Feel free to tell me I'm nuts, because I know I am! I've been having contractions for 9 weeks and haven't really panicked, Tink has had a bad belly for a couple of days and now I do too and rather than reassuring myself it's all part of the same bug I'm stressing that I'm clearing out and really am going to go into labour this time! lol I'm not sure which planet I'm on

LBB, I was talking generally, you were treated badly. It may be worth bringing it up at ANC and talk to them about your worries. They may try to talk you out of mixed feeding as it will lead to exclusive bottle. If you were struggling before then that would be part of why you were finding it so tiring.

This thread is now closed - follow McDreamy's link to the new thread. See you there