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Dec Mums - Christmas is coming...the Dec ladies have got all fat...time to have our babies...the novelty's worn flat

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Beans33 · 01/12/2008 13:54

Here's a new link for us all - think it needed doing asap as running out of space!!

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emmanbump · 02/12/2008 15:31

Love your response trace

kayzisexpecting · 02/12/2008 15:32

I am so tempted to not tell anyone for a week that I have had him. But I know the constant "Where is he?" will drive me mad.

hattyyellow · 02/12/2008 15:38

Trace and Invisible thanks for your thoughts on VBAC. Maybe it is the pre-eclampisa that makes them nervous?

Invisible that's really helpful thoughts on the monitoring - I've heard about the leads being very long on the machines - I would just have given anything for a more natural birth with dimmed lights/birth pool/freedom to move around as I wish - but the main thing is that the baby comes out okay and I'm just so relieved to be able to be trying for a VBAC rather than being knocked out for a section again!

Kayz hugs to you - this last bit is so frustrating!

Youngvisiter love the gob and shove advice! My community m/w was great at getting breastfeeding going for me last time, she said if it wasn't working with the latching on just wait until they have their mouth wide open for an indignant hungry yell and just shove a big mouthful of boob in! Made me laugh and it worked! They latched perfectly after that!

HAve just written out loads of Christmas cards to people who I know will send us a present in a few weeks for the new baby - would it be really cheeky to thank them in advance for their present to save myself the trouble in a couple of weeks and save on postage ?

Beans33 · 02/12/2008 15:49

Oh hatty - waiting for the yell sounds a brilliant way forward! Good plan. I have a fear of breastfeeding, but sure it'll be ok when it comes down to it. Can't bear the thought of something sucking on my boobs! BUT determined to give it a good go as I know it's so good for the baby.

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kayzisexpecting · 02/12/2008 15:50

Just got another text!!!!!
Replied with "Will let you know when he appears" I thought it was a bit snotty but I can't be bothered anymore.

katie3677 · 02/12/2008 15:51

In less than 24 hours I will have another baby, aaaargh!
Wierd day here, DS wet the bed last night which he hasn't done for months and then when he got up this morning, he weed all over the kitchen floor . He is 3.9 for goodness sake. I tried to be very calm about it as think it is just attention seeking in anticipation of what is about to happen. He's also been very whingy and tantrummy all day, so it's been a bit tiring. I can't believe that I am about to do this all again!

My bag is packed, baby's cot and room are all ready, last shop done and I am now going to put my feet up for an hour before I have any last minute panics about what I have forgotten.

A couple of question for those who have had C-sections before:
What happens to your waters? Do they break them, or is that part of the surgery?

How long does the actual operation take?

I know I can't wear nail varnish, but can I wear make up? I know that sounds really vain, but I still have my wierd obsession with makeup and am unable to leave the house without it on, and as I have broken out in spots in the last couple of days thought it might make me feel better.

I doubt I'll be on for the next few days as I have yet to master the art of connecting to the internet via mobile, but have drafted an email template so that those of you on the list get the email announcement when DH gets around to doing it.

See you on the other side...and good luck to anyone else having LO's in the next few days.

hattyyellow · 02/12/2008 15:52

Kayz when are you due? Everyone seems to think I will go overdue and has decided not to hassle me! Sorry you are being so innundated..

Beans it is a wierd thought breastfeeding before you do it - I found the hormonal release when I did it (is it oxytocin? can't remember) kind of made it all make sense - I used to get so incredibly chilled out when feeding when the hormones started flowing when the girls fed..hard to explain before you do it!

emmanbump · 02/12/2008 15:54

Good luck for tomo Katie!

hattyyellow · 02/12/2008 15:55

Good luck Katie !

I have no idea about the waters or the length of time as I was under GA for my section. Re make up I think the main problem is if it obscures your skin colour..ie if you were to suddenly start looking very ill but had lots of make up they would not be able to spot the change in skin tone so quickly..

I think I had a little bit of mascara on and some powder on my nose, very light make up so they couldn't really tell I was wearing it and could still spot any changes in colour etc..

kayzisexpecting · 02/12/2008 15:58

I'm due on the 12th Hatty so still 10 days away. Ideally I'd like him to come before the 8th as my Dad is coming up to visit and he goes home on the 12th. Which probably means he'll be here on the 13th.

I don't believe how different 2 pregnancies can be. With DS at this point I was out walking everyday(not as cold in March) and felt fine and was loving being pregnant. This time round I am just exhausted and couldn't go for a walk if my life depended on it.

traceface · 02/12/2008 16:16

Katie - was in no state to be aware myself, but DH informs me that the surgeon broke the waters when they cut me open - he said there was LOADS of fluid gushing out!

kayzisexpecting · 02/12/2008 16:22

Good Luck for tomorrow Katie.

LadyThompson · 02/12/2008 16:28

Right, I feel like I am letting Chutney down by not passing on her messages so I am glad PD and Turnip have been. Isn't her boy lovely? Little O is a week today and I feel like I want another one it's so lovely, so I guess that proves I am recovered...mentally.

Right, just going to bore on a bit about the specifics of a cs for those who asked. You should ask Chutney, she has now had three!
I didn't mean to freak anyone out who is due to have one. I am so sorry! And I would definitely have another one. I think it's different for everyone, and in fact my obstetrician, who did the op, has had two herself and they differed. The anesthetist explained to me why epidurals can be complicated and it made wonderful sense at the time but I can't remember it now! Something about there being plenty of scope, because of the anatomy of the inside of your back and spine, all those chambers, for them to take unevenly. But when they do take, they are smashing and the most sophisticated form of pain relief.

Abbymeg and KMP1 - and Jolly - I didn't know they were going to do both. The spinal block lasts about 90 mins, I think. And the epi is on top and you keep it in for up to 48 hrs for pain relief. If it works it must be blissful because you are pain free. I am not sure of the order they put them in - all that happened was they got me to perch on the table, then rubbed stuff on my back. I had to bend forward and sort of hunch over a pillow. I was expecting the needles to really hurt (I had a spinal tap once and that killed) but whether it was due to the anaesthetist's skill I don't know, but it wasn't that painful at all. I know Verso felt differently so I guess it varies. I couldn't tell you a thing about the size of the needles or anything, as I didn't know what was happening - they were just fiddling with my back. Yes, I knew they were sticking things into it but nothing really stood out. The thing they put in my hand hurt more, actually! BUt even that was only a short sharp ping. KMP, as for feeling them sewing me up, you can't really feel specifics of them sewing or feel any pain - I promise - just weird feelings and pushings and pullings and pressings which, personally, I didn't particularly relish. It might not bother some people and it would probably bother me less next time around.

Veggie, what you say about oxytocin makes perfect sense to me, I am sure you are right. Makes you wonder whether there is a way of inducing it when you haven't had a vaginal birth.

Anyway, I know I am blahing on about my cs but I am extremely keen to hear about everyone else's experiences. One of the good things on here is that we've got a bit of everything: VBACs, homebirths, hospital vaginal deliveries, both midwife and consultant led. Oooh, I wonder how Mibbes is getting on. And how are things today, Jump?

Other thing I wanted to say was when we got home on Saturday I felt very teary. Don't know about what, but I couldn't stop. I still feel more emotional than usual but I have stopped crying at a drop of the hat (for now!) She isn't sleeping too well at nights - she likes to sleep in the day. The midwife said to me this morning that that's the pattern they are in in the womb, so we have to play with her more in the day to get her more tired out for nights as newborns need four hours of playtime and if it's up to them they will want this in the middle of the night.

I am back on the NHS for postnatal care, as I am now in the country, but it seems a bit underresourced. I think it's a countryside thing though. They phoned me up on Sunday to say they couldn't send a midwife to visit as they were too busy. Then I had to stay awake all yesterday when I was dying to sleep (DP was in court yesterday and couldn't get outof it) waiting for her, and she finally rocked up at 5pm. She didn't have some of the right stuff with her so we had to drive DD into the maternity unit ourselves today because of cutbacks (it's ten miles away in a little cottage hospital in the Cotswolds, admittely very cute looking), and now I have been told I will only get one more midwife visit and one HV visit and that's it. Is that normal? Am I being a diva? I don't think my consultant will be very impressed.

Anyway, we took DD out for brunch afterwards (her first outing!) then off to a pub as I'd spotted they were doing mulled wine. Mt stitches still pull and I am a bit weedy but it was lovely to get out. Oooh, before I end this ridiculously mammoth post, can I just say to Kayz, I hope you get more sleep tonight darling.

LadyThompson · 02/12/2008 16:31

Katie, a quickie: I wore waterproof mascara and a dab of concealer. No one noticed. I feel your pain! They break the waters when they are doing the op. They suck them away, you may hear this. Op takes about ten mins after the anaesthetic has been administered, sewing up takes about half an hour. Tons of luck! Can't wait ot hear your news xxx

LeakyDAISYcal · 02/12/2008 16:31

just crashing in to say your thread title is fab

good luck to those of you let to have your babies and congrats to those who have already.

my November DS is a month old now and a bundle of gorgeousness

EffiePerine · 02/12/2008 16:34

kays: I am also far more tired this time round. Something to do with having a toddler as well, I suspect.

Jollybear: email me at personal not business at gmail dot com to be put on the email list

Having decided not to go for a new buggy, MIL has come up with a fat cheque for Xmas and DH is suggesting spending a wodge on a double and I'm actually considering (gulp) the Phil & Teds. Can;t remember who has one: Olipop? Will have a look at one in RL tomorrow - still not sure about the newborn arrangement. Still planning on using the sling though

kayzisexpecting · 02/12/2008 16:34

LadyT I had a MW come round everyday for 10 days after DS was born. The a HV came once a week until he was about 6 weeks old.

Thanks, I will certainly try to get more sleep. I think I should stop waiting up for DH to get home at 11 and go to bed earlier.

kayzisexpecting · 02/12/2008 16:36

Effie The Phil & Teds is brilliant. I love mine. We've been using it just with DS and it is so easy to use and really easy to steer too.

EffiePerine · 02/12/2008 16:39

V impressed at you still being awake at 11pm - I'm zonked by 10 at the latest and yawning by 9 . DS actually slept till 6:300 thisi morning which was blissful.

LadyT: it tkaes a while for babies to get the idea that they should sleep at night, the main thing to do is to sleep when they do during the day so you get some rest . Also, my top tip would be DON'T look at the clock if they wake at night. For some reason you feel better when you don't know it's 3am!

kayzisexpecting · 02/12/2008 16:41

I am normally forcing myself to be awake. Sometimes I am fast asleep on the sofa when he comes in. I can't seem to get to sleep in bed when he isn't here. But even if I am in bed it will be better for me.

Veggiemummy · 02/12/2008 16:45

Lady T it varies from borough to borough. we had private care for DS so had a midwife in reducing doses over 6 weeks. Will be the same this time. However in Derby if we went NHS we would get one visit on day 1 and then have to go out to some health center miles away which as we do the 7 day lie-in (i think they call it baby mooning) is impossible and well it'll be blummin cold so won't be going out.

Had a great afternoon at yoga while DH looked after poor little sick DS. Home now and pool has been delivered. MW is still at the other ladies birth so will prob not see her til thursday i think. Apparently there is more snow due. i have this fear that DH is going to get stuck in London due to the snow and i will go into labour and the MW won't be able to get to me. aaaahhhhh. Must think baby staying in thoughts.

EffiePerine · 02/12/2008 16:49

LadyT: I think we got a visit on day 1, then HV on day 10, then you went to the drop-in centre to get the baby weighed etc. You might have got more mw visits if you had complications I suppose.

abbymeg · 02/12/2008 16:53

LadyT thanks ever so much for that - how you've described it being put in is what I'm hoping for; like everyone else I'm sure, the thought of big needles going into spinal cords is not a happy one! I'm assuming they'd put the spinal in first as it's quick, though it goes deeper... well, it's going to be wonderful fun finding out! Thanks again.

abbymeg · 02/12/2008 16:54

Good luck Katie!

Veggiemummy · 02/12/2008 16:58

LadyT do you have a follow up with your Obs or someone for you?

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