Dec Mums - Christmas is coming...the Dec ladies have got all fat...time to have our babies...the novelty's worn flat

[Beans33]

Here's a new link for us all - think it needed doing asap as running out of space!!

ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!

The ruddy consultant has just tried to stop me having a home birth. I don't have the facilities for a EMCS at home(surprise surprise) and that my life and the baby's could be at risk. I'm also quite far away from the hospital. But the MLU I was going to have him at doesn't do epidurals or CS's. It is also about the same distance from Scarborough but along a different road. So I don't see the bloody problem. I told him I was not going to give up my HB.

On a brighter note, DH got his xmas vouchers so we are going to get some shopping.

It just struck me that by venting about the SCBU girl's question to me, I have not been sensitive either. It's such a horrid thing to think about and should have kept it to myself rather than rant on here to all you lovely ladies. Have also probably breached confidentiality myself by mentioning it. Can I rewind time and take it all back?

bisou - I bow down to your domestic goddess abilities with a sewing machine ? my mum made my dad sew his own buttons on, so I have inherited no domestic goddessery

traceface - what an utterly ridiculous and inappropriate question from your SCBU friend. dreadful question. and that poor poor woman and her baby. it does bring you back down to earth, doesn't it?

at the worst heights of my cold this weekend i had a pre-sproglet tea party where 10 of my good girlfriends came over, brought the crockery, baked cakes, brought sandwiches, biscuits, drinks etc and all had a tea party for me. and bless them - they wanted to buy me a present, so i asked for a shockingly expensive (but not when shared between 10) and beautiful changing bag which may well be the most unpractical thing in the world, but may still be the most beautiful. it is SO LOVELY!!!!

also, the general consensus is that i am having a boy - it was like a witches covern - they ALL said it. now don't get me wrong, i'll be happy with whatever i get, but i can't get a "her" out of my head - i don't like the boys names as much (call me superficial), and i just CAN'T IMAGINE HAVING A BOY. oh well, better get used to it, as i bow down to all their greater knowledge.

the nursery is pretty much finished apart from putting up some hefty shelves and fixing furniture to the wall. dh and i are just not confident enough to do it ourselves, and so are waiting for one of our two good friends who are diy gods to come round and help. it seems strange to have our nursery full of baby stuff, spirit levels, drill bits and rawl plugs, but it is so so nearly done. roll on the diy gods.

oh, and this cold (which is beginning to wane) has now left me with a cold sore which is not on my mouth, as usual, but on the skin between my mouth and my nose. nice... so, not only can i not kiss my dh, if the sproglet arrives in the next 10 days or so, i can't kiss it either. btw are there any implications to having an active herpes simplex virus while giving birth? good thing i've got a mw appt tomorrow.

Trace You can ask for the post to be deleted.

Kayz how infuriating!!!!! I can't imagine anyone has facilities for a EMCS at home? Surely that's no argument at all?! Is your pregnancy counted as 'high risk' in any way? You stick to your guns girl!

trace - don't worry about thinking you should have kept it to yourself. if you needed to rant, this is the best place to do it. like with my mentalist blogger person, i could rant here without having to worry about RL. we are just shocked for you. maybe you could wait a while until you have digested stuff and, not least, given birth, get some perspective on it and then mention to her that she might need to think again about how she approaches subjects like this. you will, ultimately, be doing her a favour.

trace I think it was fine to mention it on here but I think a polite mention of it being a little tactless to mention something like this to you at this time and also to be wary if her confidentiality whilst on Facebook.

Katz why were you even seeing the Consultant. I've said it before and i'll say it again low risk pregnancies statistcally have better outcomes under midwives than consultants and at home is even better. Thank goodness your DH wasn't there. I can't believe he said that to you, even god forbid that you need a emcs you would be blue lighted to the hospital in the same amount of time that it takes them to sort the theatre out and russle up an obs surgeon.

Hi everyone,

Haven't read the thread yet so apologies if I've missed anything big.

Things are going pretty well here - hope they are going well for you all too.

Just a quickie to say we have decided on a name - Nina Camille - and that I've emailed some pics (let me know if I've missed anyone).

Congrats to Beans (and anyone else who I don't know about yet)!

Hope to catch up soon.

xxx

Lovely name - you went for Nina after all . Will check email for pics...

gorgeous name PD - hope you're enjoying her and feeling well

can't see email btw...

I love that name my best friend in primary school was called Nina.

Hi! I know I'm an irregular poster but just to let you know I had my baby girl yesterday morning at 10.30 am. She weighs 10 lb ,name to be revealed when all the family know (only decided on it today!).

congratulations snorris - hope you're enjoying things so far. Look after yourself! 10lbs? was she a vaginal birth?

well done snorris congratulations

btw thank goodness for Bisou and her lists...I am seriously losing track of who has popped and what the babies are called - and the emails confuse me because it's all different names! I am so dense!

Hi everyone, hope you're well and congrats on the new arrivals Beans and snorris and anyone else (sorry, can't remember who else I'd already congratulated).

Have had a bit of a rubbish weekend worrying about an itchy rash I've developed - I think someone else mentioned one a while ago? Anyway, made the mistake of googling and got myself worried about cholestasis but was checked today and my liver seems to be fine so all is OK for the time being.

Anway, stress is always a good excuse for chocolate, my lovely DH has just arrived back with two big bars of Green & Blacks (1 Butterscotch and 1 white) so now all is right with the world...

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butterscotch G&B that sound amazing I'm going on Ocado to add it to my crimbo delivery.

Kayz I told my DH about what your consultant said and it has got him quite riled also he said it is a bit like saying no one should drive on case they have a car accident, bless him he's quite annoyed for you.

congrats snorris, looking forward to hearing more about your daughter! It's amazing to think we're not even a third through the month and so many babies are here already.

kayz good for you for challenging the consultant, as veggie said being at home means there is far less likely to be a complication caused by stress, and if you were to need to get to hospital they'd be as fast from your home as the MLU. to your consultant

PD you've chosen a lovely name, and what gorgeous pics, she has so much hair!! you are a beautiful family

bisou you domestic goddess... I had planned to make a curtain for the back bedroom and had measured up the fabric etc, in the end we were in JL on Friday before DD arrived and DH said look, if we get John Lewis to make it the extra £30 or so it costs will save us about £1000 worth of stress (when I'm using the sewing machine he generally leaves the house ) and thank goodness we did otherwise there'd never be a curtain made! It's pretty important as spare room faces east and he's bound to end up sleeping in there every now and then once he's back at work and needing sleep.

We have a full complement of godparents! My best friend from college (fantastic mum herself and wonderful woman all round, and helped get me and DH together so without her DD wouldn't be here ), one of DH's very oldest friends (a really strong independent woman and wonderful auntie) and a chap we both got to know through choir who is a fab daddy and great Christian of the quiet good person type. Tears all round when we asked each of them, and we even managed to stun godmother 2 into silence

Veggie I have to see a consultant because DH has Muscular Dystrophy. We don't know why because DH was diagnosed when he was 9 so it doesn't actually make a difference. It did really upset me especially as my MW is so behind it. But I am not going to have him at hospital so he can go jump.

I'm not even classed as a high risk pregnancy. Plus the MW went through everything on Friday, she said about ringing for an ambulance if things happen too fast and that if something appears to be wrong I'll have 2 MWs with me and that one of them will get an ambulance if needs be. She also said that having him at Malton is practically the same as having him at home.

On a brighter note I had a few tightening feelings while walking around Morrisons.

not just stress JJ at home you get your own Mw's with loads of experience so they will pick up on probe quick and don't have any other women to look after. Also MW have loads of non invasive tricks up their sleeves to sort out little probe during labour where as doctors tend to go straight for intervention. One academic discribed obstetricians attending a low risk birth like a peaciatric surgeon babysitting a 2 year old. A normal sitter or child minder would try all sorts of play and craft from their experience to keep the child from fussing. Whereas a lead surgeon may let the child fuss then be tempted to give it a sedative to calm it down when it starts losing it cos it's bored. I love that comparison. Obviously in cases like Mibbes there is good reason for a consultant but I think her difficulties where picked up by the MW anyway (correct me if I'm wrong there)

Sorry for ranting as I have said before with the CS ladies wanting their CS' s I just can't see why these docs can't accept our quite resonable decisions.

that is odd shouldn't effect the birth and whether it is passed on is something I'm sure you have already been through and will face later.

Here's hoping the twinges are something happening. Your dad arrives today doesn't he?

According to the genetic specialist it is impossible for us to have children with MD. It is passed on by the mother and obviously I don't have it. Any girls we have will carry it and they could have children with MD. So its bloody stupid. I don't really like him anyway. The one I had with DS was great.

Dad comes tomorrow, in first class no less! He keeps gloating about how he is travelling in first class. It worked out cheaper from him to come tomorrow in FC than for him to come today in standard class. Wierd

I do think it might be happening tonight.