Due May 2009 - It's all in front of us now!!!!

[divedaisy]

And on we go!!

OH MissyK- I was in tears reading your post. You have been through a lot. I'm pleased they are offering you councelling soon - that should help you to make up your mind re labour/elec CS. No decision is easy and it has to be one right for you. You are not a failure for trying labour. You seam a wonderful, sensitive emotional woman - look after yourself.

For me I think I have put a lot of what happened re my PND PSD in the back realms of my mind - I don't really remember a lot of it (Drug induced amnesia??) but my DH never wanted to have kids again and risk him going through hell again. I felt I was being punished for being unwell. Thankfully, I'm now preg again and he's ok with it, but he is worried too which takes the edge off things a bit. But I am feeling FAB!!

Bekkaboo - poor you. PAnic attacks are not nice at all. SOund to me like you need some councelling too - did you eevr get to speak to someone about your birth experience? You describe it as a trauma - this memory is raw with you and it is reasonalbe that you are panicing about the next event. Try to get councelling organised. x

milliemoocow (Fab mane - just how I feel at the mo!) Welcome and congratulations!!!

Nikkie - hope you are ok. I've had ds land on me too a few times or do his karate chops!!

Loubyloo36 - have you felt anything since you posted? I went through a phase of not feeling anything also, and it is a relief when you finally fell the thump!

I'm going to redo the list because I keep being returned to my original date of 19th - they are using the 7th as my date!!!!

Frazzle - did you get asked if you were OK with the student being present?? Very bad manners if you weren't. I think I may have asked him to leave! As for your MW the cahnces are she wont be there at the birth, but it still isn't nice not to have a rapor with her. I thought checking for HB was standard practice..?

I have altered our dates today. I think we were one day ahead of ourselves. I have gone by my dates - I'm 19 weeks today (due 7th), so I've calcualted everyone elses around this. If I've done this wrong please let me know! Also - can we please use this latest list for any future updates! - on older lists I keep sliding back to the 19th!!! OK rant over!

Yawningmonster , 19+6 , 19+6 due 1 May , (36 will be 37 when dc arrives DS age 4)
Sahbear , 19+6 , 19+6 due 1 May , (DS age 14 mo)
farrahgillani , 20 , 19+6 due 1 May , (1st Child)
Brightsideoflife ,20 , 19+6 due 1 May ,
Reggiee , 20, 19+6 due 1 May , (ahem 30 April but want to stay - DD age 22 months)
Aquababe , 20, 19+6 due 1 May , (DD age 2.9)
Evergrounded , 20 ,19+6 due 1 May ,
Momino , 20 , 19+6 due 1 May , (DD age 2.5 and DD age 1)
Loulabela ,20 , 19+6 due 1 May ,
AAL , 20 , 19+6 due 1 May , (DS age 4)
Olderbutnotwiser , 20, 19+6 due 1 May , (DD age 21, DS age 19, DS age 16 DS age 4, DD age 2)
MissyK , 20 , 19+6 due 1 May , (Now 30th April, but what's a day, bet I'm late grin )(DS age 4) 20wk scan 15th December
bantam73 , 20, 19+6 due 1 May (dd , age 3 + dd 16.11) from Leeds
JosieC , 20 ,19+6 due 1 May , (27, 1st child, North London)
Heverhoney , 19+5, due 2 May ,
SpangleMaker , 19+4, due 3 May , (first child)
LoobyLou36 , 19+4, due 3 May , (first child)
EmmalinaC , 19+4, due 3 May , (DD age 2.4)
Inni , 19+3, due 4 May , (DS age 2.9 and DD age 1)
Ceeceeanne , 19+3, due 4 May , (DD age 9)
Chicadee , 19+2, due 5 May , (DD age 6.5)
Overtiredmum , 19+2, due 5 May , (DS age 3)
Hopefullypregnant , 19+2, due 5 May , (DD age 10.5m)
Gibsongirl , 19+1, due 6 May , (DS1 age 5 and DS2 nearly 2)
BrownieBells , 19+1 , due 6 May , (DS age 2.9)
lauralou1 , 19+1 , due 6 May , (first)
Jael , 19+1 , due 6th may , (DD age nearly 3yrs at mo)
Divediasy , 19 , due 7 May (DS age 5; 3rd preg)
Detsy , 18+6 , due 8 May , (UK, Cheshire - DD 11 months)
Flippineck , 18+6, due 8 May , (DD will be 2yr1m then)
Carol7 , 18+5 , due 9 May , (DS age 16 DD age 12)
Jennster , 18+5 , due 9 May , (DD age 2y7m, DS age 13m)
sebandelliotsmum , 18+5 , due May 9th , ds1 5 and ds2 20 months
Febes , 18+4 , due 10 May , (DD age 9 months)
Missblythe , 18+4 , due 10 May , (DD age?)
Superdenki , 18+4 , due 10 May , (DS age 2.5)
Pinkcandyfloss , 18+3 , due 11 May , (DS1 age 5 and DS2 age 1.7)
Mootie , 18+3 , due 11 May , (DD age 2.4)
llareggub , 18+2 , due 12 May , (DS age 2)
Ses , 18+2 , due 12 May , (first child)
Minimenace , 18+2 , due 12 May , (DS age 13 months)
Millionsaway , 18+1 , due 13 May , (DD 20 months)
Mammajamma , 18+1 , due 13 May , (DS1 age 4, DS2 age 22m)
lilyjay09 , 18+1, due 13 May , (DC 3)
Wobblypig , 18 , due 14 May , (DS 1.11)
Looneywoman , 18 , due 14 May ,
Zuka , 18 , due 14 May , (first child)
1stMrsF , 18 , due 14 May , with non-identical twins (first pregnancy, Surrey)
chocolatefrog , 18 , due 14 May , (DD 19mnths)
FiKelly , 17+6 , due May 15 , (DS age just over 2yrs)
Nauseous, 17+6 , due 15 May, first baby.
Bekkaboo , 17+5, due 16 May , (DS aged 2)
Frazzledoldbag , 17+5 , due 16 May , (DD1 age 7, DD2 age 2)
Daisydoo , 17+5 , due 16 May , (DS age 19m)
Bluebell82 , 17+5 , due 16 May , (dd age 7 months)
umamimama , 17+5, due 16 May , (dd age 16 months)
Bigtree , 17+4, due 17 May , (first child)
HtheH , 17+4 , due 17 May (much longed for first child, have had previous miscarriages over 2 years, London)
Tigergem , 17+2 , due 19 May , (DD 18m)
GreenFingeredMummy , 17+1 , due 20 May , (DD age 15m)
Grumpyoldcaaaaaaaa , 17+1 , due 20 May , (DD age 10, DD age 4)
Mags98 , 17 , due 21 May , (first child)
2beautifulgals , 16+6, due 22 May , (2 dds?!)
Nikkiemadisonandbump, 16+6, due 22 May (DD age 2)
Moonlit , 17 , 16+6 due 22 May , (DD age 2.8)Nuchal Scan 07/11/2008)
halfmumhalfbiscuit , 16+5 , due 23 May , (DS age 2)
Agooboo , 16+5 , due 23 May , (DS1 age 6 DS2 age 2)
Runningmonkey , 16+5 , due 23 May , (first child)
Swottybetty: , 16+4 , Due 24/05/09. DD , 6mths
DandyLioness , 16+3 , due 25 May , (DD age 3yrs9mths)-nuchal & dating scan 10/11/2008
Alapala , 16+3 , due 25 May , (DS 1.5)
pulapula , 16+3 , due 25 May , (DD nearly 4, DS 1.5, Sheffield, nuchal 13 Nov, 20 week scan 6 Jan, elective cs)
citybranch , 16+1 , due 27 May , (DS age 23m)
Imnotok , 16+1 , due 27 May ,
SweetBROODY, 15+6, due 29th May (First Child) Cardiac scan for baby on 16th worried about that one
MsG, 16, 15+6 due 29th May (First child)
MatthewAndBumpsMummy , 15+4 , due 31 May , (DS age 3yrs 6mths)
Rek, 15+5 , 15+4 due 31 May (DD 13 months)
milliemoocow 15+4, due 31st may,(DC?, DC?)

Just looking at the list - is everyone on it still with us? There are afew names I haven't seen in a while

I noticed a few people disappeared too. Hope they're just busy and all are ok.

divedaisy, I'm surprised too they didn't ask you if you minded a student sat in to observe.

my date changed a few days according to yesterday's scan (moved back to 5th, maybe) but will keep at 1 may as i'm not sure how accurate or stuck to dates I am.

going back to the emotional subject, i'm crying at everything. just had a scan at thread names in antenatal clubs and teary at the dec ones who are just about to have babies and then teary again at the Aug ones who are getting their BFPs.... am a wreck, hormone overload?

divedaisy still no movement.

LoobyLou36 - this is you first child so sometimes movements aren't as easily detected. In one of the books I bought for DS it informs us that babies sleep for 22 hours out of 24! So hopefully yours is cosliy tucked away having peaceful dreams! Try lying on your back with your hands gently placed on your bump. A lot of my movement is felt deep down (but I have had movement above belly button also). It feels like a pressure and sometimes as if there is wind moving through the bowel! I find the stiller and quieter I am the more movement i get - it wakes up and wants rocked and soothed back to sleep again! I also read somewhere on MN that drinking a glass of cold milk get movement - now I've tried this and it didn;t work for me!

Afternoon everyone!

Jael my next door neighbour is a paediatrician and he thinks over-the-counter cough medicines are a waste of time and money. And actually he recommends Calprofen over Calpol (depending on the age of child).

Nikkie hope you're doing ok? I think docs have to think worst-case-scenario and it's not exactly reassuring! Sure you'll be ok.

With regard to feeling emotional - I just seem to be terribly angry all the time. Not good I know, especially for poor DH. He knows it's just hormones but I think he would prefer it if I were tearful!

Just reading back over the past few days it strikes me what a difficult business pregnancy is. So many of us have complications, health worries etc. I wonder if we are an accurate reflection of mums everywhere. I always assumed it's because I'm a bit old! (I'm 36 btw). At least with all the doctors appointments we seem to be having we can be confident that the NHS takes it pretty seriously!

Looby,
I'm 20w tomorrow, 3rd baby, not feeling anything. However, I had my scan yesterday and there's defn a baby moving round in there. I asked the sonographer why i wasn't feeling anything, he said it just depends on the way baby is lying, placenta, your body etc.

I think with my 1st it was about 24 weeks before I felt movement. Try not to worry (easily said ).

Just back from my scan - it's a BOY!!! All seems to be going well, although the sonographer wasn't very communicative and whizzed through everything very quickly. I did ask her if she would say if there was anything to be concerned about, and she said she would, but it all seemed ok. So very happy & relieved!

DH & I were an eensy bit disappointed as we were sort of hoping for a girl. I'm over it but DH still a bit disappointed though: he seems to have this idea that all little boys are boisterous, destructive & football mad (DH is a refined, creative type who DETESTS all sport) but I think a lot depends on the parents and as our son he's far more likely to be like DH than anything else. Oooh, still feels weird to be saying 'he' not 'it'

Looby I go through periods of not feeling anything. For me sugary drinks or sweets get him perky. For some reason I feel far more when I'm sitting up than lying down which I know is different to a lot of people's experience. Try not to worry, I'm sure you will feel a wriggle soon xx

I'm really sorry to hear so many have had difficult births & PND . It is helpful as a first-timer to have my eyes opened as without any experience it's easy to generate expectations that everything will be perfect when it so often isn't. At least now I know if I have a difficult time it won't be because I'm a failure but because these things happen to the very best of us. I just hope I can be as strong as many of you are being.

All you ladies that have found out what your having, can I be nosy and ask what your other DC are? We've only got one child DD, so were kinda on the fence about what sex we'd like. Obviously, we want the baby to be healthy and everything. I would like A DS, so that we had one of each, but on the other hand, I'd really like another DD. And we've already 100% agreed on our girl name lol

Jael X

Aw, congratulations Spangle! Really glad your scan went well.

Jael we've already got a DD. And we know we're having another DD - which is lucky cos we've never been able to agree on a boy's name!

Spangle,
Great news on your scan and congrats it's a boy!

Jael,
we have 2 dd's. I've always wanted a boy and was disappointed especially 2nd time (though obviously got over it as dd2 is a gorgeous, funny peanut I wouldn't trade for the world!). but you can't lose either way. the 2 girls play together so well and have a lot more in common than they would if they were diff sexes (that's an assumption).

I honestly don't know if i'd know what to do with a boy if one arrived in May .

I've just looked at the list and saw that most of our DC are on the list, silly me.
So Spangle what was your baby's heart rate before you found out it was a boy, does it coincide with what you thought it was going to be?

I'm abit worried about having a boy, I know it's just me being silly, because I've only ever had my DD. I have no idea what it's like to raise a boy...

Congrats Spangle!! You are right- a lot depends on how you bring your child up. There are many girls who are wild and destructive!!! My ds is sensitive, loving, generous, creative and well mannered. He only recently started going to football practice on a Sat morning - but really only for the fitness and because a lot of his school chums go. He also does JuJitsu (DH from that background and BMX) and goes to Beavers. He loves creating stuff with his Lego and mechanno/K'Nex. He loves to read also. But mostly he just loves being with me and getting huggles!!! Though if your hubby plays music for example your ds will be inspired and encouraged by your DH.

Also Spangle it is healthy to know the reality of motherhood. I know my standards and expectations first time were way too high and I believe that contributed towards my PND. I wanted to be a perfect mother (whatever that is) but in the end I just created more work for myself than was necessary! My nan used to say 'a good mother looks after herself' - good advice!

I have a DD and a DS and there are some obvious differences in the way they play etc which must be put down to their gender rather than we way we have raised them. I don't let (and won't let) my DS or DD be violent to others, but it is really hard to stop my DS climbing and jumping on things- just seems to be his nature.

I would have liked 2 DDs as from what i've seen of boys and girls, girls are more sophisticated, communicative and gentle! I am really hoping this one will be a girl, and hope I won't feel too disappointed if its a boy.

Thanks for the views Dandy & divedaisy I think it'll be fun having a boy and I'm sure DH will think so too when he's got used to the idea. Dandy my cousins were brought up like that - Aunt & Uncle thought it was great fun for the boys to all have some 'rough & tumble' but my poor brother hated visiting them as he isn't a violent type at all and got upset at being expected to join in their 'play' fighting.

Jael the heartrate was 168bpm at 11.5 weeks and 135-145bpm at 16 weeks. I think both are average for those stages of development, as far as I can tell, so I'm not sure it says much.

DH thought we'd have a boy too on the basis that his Dad is an older of two brothers, and himself had two sons, so he has decided if we have another one that'll be a boy too. Not sure there's any science in that though

Spangle, my dh is one of 2 boys/1 girl, his dad is one of 3 boys so thought we'd be dominated by boys... and now have two girls! it feels like all guess work to me .

off to get LOs from nursery. have a good eve everyone.

I have, very bravely (or quite possibly stupidly), started a thread about the name Ptolemy

Spangle excuse me for being stupid but how do you say it?!

Excuse my ignorance, but is the name Ptolemy used in modern day UK? To my mind the name brings only the Roman astronomer who lived around 100 AD.