Due in June '05 - onwards and outwards

[welshmum]

Here we are - Happy Mondays all

Lippy - Yes the 2nd. 2nd. 2nd. 2nd. [bang bang bang heada against wall] - strange pg moment I have going on there. I know the 2nd is the Saturday but I keep saying the 4th to everyone!! Doh!

Lynney - Think we should re-name you Lady Chattersley (sp?)

Pink - Sorry to hear you are having a bit of an irksome time. These things are all ok to cope with one at a time but when they kind of landslide and then you factor in the pregnancy it can all seem a bit too much. (I know, I have been having similar moments of dispair myself). Take it all in your stride Girlfriend! x

Is anyone else suffering with PSD? I started getting pain a couple of weeks ago and now I am sleeping with a pillow between my legs to help relieve the pain at night. I am walking like a toddler too. And as for sex..... Lynney, I need a gander at this game keeper of yours! He he he!!

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Morning all!

Scraggy, when I was looking at travel insurance the latest I could find would cover you to 32 weeks, not beyond I hope you can find something.

Lippy - apols for causing controversy in the Lipstick household! It did occur to me last night given how many doctors I know surely I could just get one of them to whip me up an appropriate letter, particularly given I am being ultra-cautious about the requirement anyway I don't oppose the practice making a reasonable charge for the request, btw, after all going on hollybags is hardly a priority (I would certainly expect my company to pay if I was going on business, however, must check with my sis-in-law what she did about that). But 18 quid seems way beyond what's reasonable.

A friend of mine has just been told by Singapore Airlines that she'll need a letter to go to NZ in a few weeks - she'll only be at 16 weeks for heaven's sake. I can't find any evidence of this on the SA website, I'm sure she's been given the wrong information.

Lynny - cold showers for you I think my dear! Was dh not around to oblige your gamekeeper fantasies?

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Morning all
Scraggy - lovely to hear from you again, glad all's well. On the insurance front why don't you start a thread on it - sure someone on Mumsnet will know what to do.
Trib - your friend needing the letter for NZ...I didn't need one when I went at 12 weeks if that's any help. Mind you the s* hit the fan when I got there and I wish someone had told me not to travel. It's a bloody long way and in my opinion the longer you're breathing in that recycled germy air the more likely you are to pick up something nasty. All of us were ill in one way or another when we got there.
Anyone else hear that story about the BBC Director general biting a colleague? DD was listening at the time and asked if he had been snatching too, I replied that yes he had , dd says his mummy and daddy should come and collect him and take him home 'biting is not allowed'

Welshie, I have to say I wouldn't go to NZ during pregnancy, for the reasons you've mentioned - germy air, cramped seat for so long, being so bloody far away if anything happens. The trip was booked before she got pregnant though, so hope she manages okay. My cousin went off to Oz when she was pregnant and even seems to have climbed up Ayers Rock / Uluru (even though I thought you weren't meant to do that nowadays?) without any problems.

LOL at your dd though. She's quite right

Has she got other children trib? If she can just rest up for a bit once the journey's over then she'll probably do better. I guess I'm a bit phobic about trips to NZ during pg.

No other kids, I'll suggest the resting up but her dp isn't the most sympathetic of souls to this whole pregnancy lark. Personally I would demand rest time whether I was pregnant or not! dh and I went on a big holiday to Chile last year and fortunately had to get a flight the day before the rest of the group so we had a day of recovery when we arrived in Santiago before we had to hit the ground running - I would have been on my knees after a 20-odd hour flight, then a trip round Santiago and then the next morning we were back on the plane going up north to the desert ... strangely enough, we haven't planned to go back this year

i'd second not flying long haul when PG, i ended up being ambulanced of the plane!!! quick way to clear american imigration!!

Had a heavy bleed about an 1 hour before landing in san fran, but sepnt the whole flight throwing up!! lost nearly a lot of weight that day!!

I had a miscarriage a couple of days after we arrived so I'm overly anxious about the whole long haul thing. I did get advice from the constulant before going and it probably was 'just one of those things' but I still blame myself for agreeing to fly so readily.

i was told that the excessive throwing up probably caused the blood clot (hence the bleed) but that if i'd been at home excessively throwing up then i probably would have clotted and bled. but i don't think i would have thrown up continously for 10 hours at home!!! but then the trip was planned pre-PG and i would have gone anyway ect ect so can't change owt!!

The doctor in the states gave me a real surf about flying in the first trimester, he reconned it wasn't safe, but it hink that was his personal opinion!!

Mornin' everyone.

Scraggy, glad your back... but have you gone crazy in your absence???? Why would you want to travel at 34 weeks? Where to? And do you want to have your baby there? Let's see what citizenship might he/she/you qualify for then????

God knows I won't be leaving the London area after 34 weeks. I took so much effort to get into Queen Charlotte. I'll be damned if I'm gonna blow it by making it inaccessible in an emergency.

There is a reason they won't insure you after 32 weeks.

Gosh I sound like such a mother!!!!

Oh, welshie how awful. The prospect of miscarrying abroad was what made me end my contract in Sweden in the first trimester, it must have been horrible. And Katz, excellent work on fast tracking US immigration, even though you might have preferred not to on this occasion.

I flew quite a lot in the first trimester. They reckon it's the extra radiation that you're exposed to that may not be the best (I think) but fortunately I didn't find that out til it was too late. Having said that, I'm not worried about our little jaunt to Amsterdam as the flight only lasts 45 mins in any case! And bubs is a frequent flier, should have his/her own KLM card I reckon

It's just the long haul that gets me anxious trib (and scraggy) didn't want to alarm anyone over small journeys. Apologies.

Morning all

Trib, it wasn't too bad, I get more touchy about the poor old NHS than dp does and he works for them. Weird!

There is no way I would fly to NZ when pg Having done this trip about 8 times in the space of 4 years when I lived there, I would highly un-recommend it! Recycled air wouldn't bother me half as much as the prospect of developing a DVT!! I may be wrong, but I think the likelihood of this happening is much increased during pregnancy. The airlines are naturally going to be mega-cautious about it because the public are happy to slap law suits on them if anything goes wrong. So, they err on the side of caution #shrugs#

Gawd, can we talk about food again pleeeeeeaaaase!

What's everyone up to this Easter? We're staying at home, visiting friends and stuff.

So, Lady Chatterly, errrr sorry, Lynny you have a real gamekeeper in the vicinity!! Lucky you!! Does he have anything on Sean Bean (the gamekeeper in the tv adaptation) ?? If so, I'm coming to visit

Morning Lippy, I'm hoping for a really luxurious Easter. We're at home until the Sunday (not remotely luxurious - still sorting ot our upstairs bedrooms) BUT then we head off to our country hotel for some serious pampering. Mmmmmmmmmm big fluffy everythings....can't wait.
As for food - which particular aspect would you like to tackle this morning???

Oh oh.... can I have a little rant (assuming I haven't already used up my quote for the rest of pregnancy)? Last night DH says as we are going to sleep that he is working late next Friday and probably won't be home. So I said uh, what date is that then? He said the first. I said but you are babysitting on Saturday morning. And he just said that he forgot. I said it's my lunch with the June mums in London and it's the only social event I've kept (in view of budget crunch). silence.....

He didn't offer to get a babystitter. Didn't say he'd come home from work. Offered nothing. I am none too pleased. Childcare is always my problem. This lunch was planned so far in advance, I will definitely not forgive him if I have to miss it.

By the way, I felt like kicking myself after I used the word "babysitting".. I hate when guys refer to watching there own kids as babysitting. Excuse me, looking after SOMEONE ELSE's kids is babysitting. Looking after your own is your fatherly duty and does not deserve special recognition.

Sorry, did I say my rant was going to be little. Oh well, you all know me better than that by now.

That sounds very unpleasant Katz.

Yay! Welcome back Scraggy. Did your DP also manage to see the rugby as well as attend the course? I'm suffering from pelvic pain too, it's not pleasant. Saw DH's chiropractor yesterday who wiggled my legs about a bit and said to try and avoid too much sitting down. And walking. I'm hoping my midwife will also sort out an appointment at a physio too (she said she would). Have you spoken to your midwife about it? She might be able to do the same.

Wise words from your DD Welshmum. My DS has started blaming 'the dragon' for anything he's done wrong. He ripped a bit out of a pop-up book the other day, but when I asked him what had happened he said the dragon had done it. Bloody dragon is causing nothing but trouble in my house at the moment.

JonahB - we've got two cats who were surrogate children until DS came along. Now they spend their time desperately begging for attention - unfortunately I found that I just don't have any energy or love spare for them...hope your cat doesn't suffer the same fate.

Uwila, any news on nannythug?

Lynny - bucket of cold water for you.

Yeah Trib, the radiation too Dp and I were discussing having a holiday last night, before I hit 30 weeks, but then he went into hyperchondriacal doctor mode and all the potential disasters flashed before him and he scrapped the whole idea before we'd even finished dinner!!

Welshie, sorry to hear you had your miscarriage after the flight to NZ, maybe related, maybe not. I'm not surprised you're anxious about that kind of thing, I would be too.

Scraggy, where are you thinking of going??? I'm with Uwila. Can't you make do with Porthcawl???!! Must be warming up by now

Oooooh I dunno Welshie, any aspect of food is better than distressing about the NHS imo!

I love cheese.

and more cheese.

I'm heavily into dairy deserts. Anyone else tried Bonne Maman creme caramels? Rachel's organic rice pudding?
Not eating much cheese - don't like the bread or crackers that has to go with it.

Sorry Welshie, I was typing whilst you were posting. How awful for you. It's impossible not to feel guilty about the things you have done when you m/c I think, even if it is more than likely 'one of those things'.

Food: well I think I am getting really porky and now that I'm no longer going to the gym I have made a big concession and cut down from 4 Thorntons Continentals a night, to 3. Impressive eh?

Excuse, oh short memories abound... Sugary desert and chocolate talk are off limits (in respect of Lua's restricted diet). You make speak of cheese and veg.

Some people are SOOOOOOO rude.... jeez!

If I didn't know you were pregnant I would think you were men.