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wilsonmummy · 30/10/2008 16:56

Soz couldn't think of a better title!!

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kayzisexpecting · 13/11/2008 20:24

Sorky, you are right Spinach is high in Iron and Folic Acid!!

SesHashadafab12weekscan · 13/11/2008 20:36

Hey! You are still all around!!

Diege - all anti sickness meds recommend caution in pregnancy but all 3 of the meds we've talked about have been used for many years for HG and in fact they are only really thought to carry any risk in the last trimester.

Sorky - feel free to email me. My email address is [email protected]

SesHashadafab12weekscan · 13/11/2008 20:37

Ooh! Kay - yay for comfy PJs!

SesHashadafab12weekscan · 13/11/2008 20:44

I really want to give BF a proper go too. My mum said last week though,"Don't feel you have to BF as it's not easy and doesn't often work".
I believe that for some people it just doesn't happen no matter how much you try but I really want to feel like I can give it a go and ideally BF til at least 6 months. Is this just a naive first timer talking or does that make sense?
My mum almost gave me the impression that she didn't want me to BF!

glaskhamhasoneintheoven · 13/11/2008 20:45

I'm here- but been wrapping again!!Have wrapped all of DS's smaller presents!! all i need to do of his now are his bigger presents!! And about halfway through DD's smaller presents!!

Kayz- if your worried about BFing in public, drape a muslin over your shoulder and over your breast (and babies head if you feel the need to) until you get comfortable with it!! I was never really bothered about BF in public... I just see it as my baby having his/her food, no-one else gets stared at while they eat so why should anyone look at you?? I only got a coupel of rude people, and they were normally in the middle of town feeding on a bench or something similar!!

kayzisexpecting · 13/11/2008 20:49

My Mum isn't too keen either Ses. But when she had my brother and me the advice was to FF so she never BF or even tried too.

I might be having a baby in a weeks time. I'm 37 weeks and they class you as full term from 37 weeks. ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

glaskhamhasoneintheoven · 13/11/2008 20:50

Ses- i was adamant that however much i wanted to feed that there would be problems... other than the initial pains and cracked nipples (which trust me, are bad) it was an absolute breeze!! Fed both of mine till their 1st birthday!!

Dont think its going to be easy, the first couple of weeks are by far the toughest, and most women dont expect that which is why they give up so soon. But if you have good support from your health visitor, midwife etc and have their help with latch and correct feeding etc you should be able to do it!!

I'm worrying about the pain in the first few weeks already as i haven't BF for over 18mths now, will be 2years once this one arrives... But i know just how worth it it is!!

The most satisfying feeling for me was when they were tiny, had a tummy full of milk, fell asleep on the breast, and as they dropped off the nipple a bit of my own milk dribbled down their face.... so satisfying to know i'd produced that for my baby!!

SesHashadafab12weekscan · 13/11/2008 20:54

Right! I'm going to do whatever it takes!!! Will prepare myself for pain and perseverance though!

kayzisexpecting · 13/11/2008 20:56

Yeah I am doing that too Ses. If you look for Hunker on the BF pages she is brilliant for advice and has like a blog that is so helpful.

glaskhamhasoneintheoven · 13/11/2008 20:57

thats the spirit Ses!! i now wont give my babies anything other than breastmilk because i know how satisfying it is for both them and me!!

I'm off now, DH is home, Tea will be ready in 5mins and i need a BIG drink!!!

Have just text Nat to see how things are, will text you if i hear anything!!

Night!!

kayzisexpecting · 13/11/2008 20:59

Yeah I've just text her too. So if hear from her I'll let you know too!!!

Night!!

SesHashadafab12weekscan · 13/11/2008 21:05

Thanks for the chat and advice. Hope we all get a good night's sleep.
Night!

kayzisexpecting · 13/11/2008 21:16

Just heard from Nat. Still no movements so she is ringing the hospital. Keeping fingers crossed he is having a lazy few days.

sorkycake · 13/11/2008 21:33

Ses I've emailed you, thanks

Hope NJ is okay.

Yay for b'feeding wagoners. It's not as bad as people make out. I can recommend a good book if you like "bestfeeding" but would have to hunt it out for the authors Mary somebody iirc.

It's the latch that's the key and not panicking that your milk hasn't come in, it will. You just must make sure you put them to the breast as often as you can until the supply gets established.
You do feel a bit like a milky slave at first, but the ease of b'feeding far outweighs any downsides.
No fuss, no sterilising, no warming of things, no colic, no extra equipment to carry.....God it's great

I totally agree about the absolute blissed-out faces. Don't you wish you could have a memory of how nice it must be to be in that snuggled, milky haze?
Ooh I have just felt broody for the first time this pregnancy....how weird!?!

kayzisexpecting · 13/11/2008 21:36

Nat is on her way to hospital. Poor thing isn't having too much luck lately.

GYo · 13/11/2008 21:37

Hi

Hope all ok with Nat....

Thanks for posting that info re the birth pool Sorky. Anything more solid will be good to help DH feel relaxed about it (still worried about mess- now issue is it bursting and flooding house- I understand but still!)

He did say if I want it, he will go with it but our lounge might end up wrapped in plastic first

GYo · 13/11/2008 21:38

x-posts Kay.
re Nat going to hosp. Thanks for the update...

Please let her know we are thinking of her...

sorkycake · 13/11/2008 21:46

We move all of our books from the bottom shelves to our bedroom as Dh is worried about flooding. Never a drop yet.

We have a large rug which we bring in from the HE/playroom and then that it wrapped in a decorators sheet from B&Q. The pool its on top in the middle.
It also acts as an insulator for the water and makes it much more comfy to birth on your knees if you want to.

If I'd known I was gonna have 3 births like this I'd have bought the bloody thing from the off!.

Will someone update the thread if they hear from Nat? She must be at the end of her tether poor lass.

LaTourEiffel · 13/11/2008 22:16

Ses, breastfeeding shouldn't hurt - it only hurts if you're doing it wrong. The difficult bit is that its commonly believed that the baby naturally knows how to breastfeed, just lift them to the breast and away they go - but its just not like that. They have to learn and so do you, and you're handling a newborn, which I think is bound to feel odd even if not firstborn because they're not that small for very long!

I was absolutely resolute that nothing would deter me from breastfeeding so read as much as I could in advance, spoke to my MW about it and made sure when I did have problems, I insisted on someone helping. I have very flat nipples, so had to learn even more techniques than most to kind of 'shape' my boob for DS to latch on to.

I have to say, I'm a bit of a breastfeeding monster and its only because it really is so easy. Years ago formula didn't exist, and the race is still going, so it can't be that hard can it?

One of the main things that saw me through was the fact that my MW showed me how to manually express and told me to practise, I think from about 34 - 36 weeks, which meant that when we were in hospital and DS wouldn't latch, and was screaming with hunger and I was in tears frustrated that I couldn't give him what I wanted, they simply bought me a little cup which I was able to express into - than he lapped it like a little kitten. It was such an impossibly tiny amount but it was enough for him because it is so rich and loaded with goodness.

Sorry for mega post - as I said, I'm very enthusiastic about it - I have eczema, asthma and hayfever and food allergies, so was determined to do my absolute best to make sure DS was given best opportunity to avoid same....so far so good, not due to BF maybe, but I'd never have known if he had got them and I hadn't tried.

I'm going to get off my soap box now...... but ought to note, I'm NOT anti formula feeding, I'm just pro-educating people about the services available to enable mum to do what they want to...

LaTourEiffel · 13/11/2008 22:26

Race? I think I meant mankind - oops

I also forgot to refresh before posting so sorry for repetition --- more

Will let you know if I hear anything from NJ. x

NatalieJaneIsPregnantAgain · 14/11/2008 01:31

Have just got back, made it by the skin of my teeth, they were baying for blood I tell thee.

OK, my pulse was racing this time, which in turn made the babies HB race, which they think is what caused it to be so fast on Monday. I have protein +, they think it is in an infection rather than PE though because my BP is still low (100/60 if that means anything to anyone? Not me, I know nothing!) they want me back in tomorrow night if no movements again, and regardless of that, back in Saturday afternoon for another trace and to see if they can find out why my pulse was racing (though I'm no medic, I'd have thought if I do have an infection then that would make my pulse race?) They've taken blood, one for iron levels, one for signs of infection, and one for something else but I've forgotten, they've sent the urine off for 'more specific tests' whatever that means, and I think that is about it.

I am not going to go and fall into bed and hopefully get to sleep, but the way the contractions are going will probably still be up when the birds start really fucking me off singing. xxx

NatalieJaneIsPregnantAgain · 14/11/2008 01:32

I am not going to fall into bed, tut, I am too tired to even say I'm going to bed properly!

kayzisexpecting · 14/11/2008 06:42

Morning,

Nat, glad you got to come home. At least they seem to be taking you seriously now. I hope it is just an infection and that they can give you something to get rid of it.

I just have to say that I HATE the new Thomas The Tank Engine cartoons. Why do we need the annoying singing?????? It really annoys me!!!

36 weeks today! Still 4 weeks to go, 4 weeks to many I think.

Hope everyone slept well.

SesHashadafab12weekscan · 14/11/2008 07:11

Morning!

Was really worried they were going to keep you in last night, NJ. Glad you're home and they're keeping a sensible eye on you.

Kay - off to the footie tomorrow. Really worried the unbeaten run will end but should be good.

(Diege - Liverpool??!!!)

Right, I need to stop MNing on my phone in bed, get up and go to work. I've got a day with my boss today. She's the Regional Pharmacy Manager for all the smaller size stores in the SE (110 stores) so I don't often have time with just me and her as I (just?!) have 19 of those stores to look after pharmacy & healthcare for. Am taking her to 3 different stores and will probably review my progress since I started in the job at the end of July.

Sorry, have waffled about nothing interesting again!! Anyone would think I'm happy to stay in bed on MN!

SesHashadafab12weekscan · 14/11/2008 07:13

Kay - meant to say 4 weeks!!! Can't wait for the babies to start arriving!